Mixing Nitrogen & O2 in tires?

[NMI]

I searched the forums and didnt see anything on this so I figure I would ask.

This morning after having my Versa for a week now, the TPMS came on. I looked at my tires and it is the front driverside tire that is a tad bit low.

Now, I know my tires are filled with Nitro, but can I safely top off the tire with regular old O2 from the gas station?

Do places like AutoZone sell Nitrogen in a can for this purpose?

Yes, I am aware of the debate about the benefits/lack of benefits of Nitro filled tires.
Modified by NMI at 12:46 PM 9/30/2008

[djoxide]

its not going to hurt it but why not just go top it off with nitroi noticed the difference of a smoother ride when i got nitro in mine, i'll never go back

[Knightro2]

Might be a placebo effect. Kinda like when you get your car washed it "feels" better to drive. lol ... I get that all the time.

Nitro shouldn't improve your ride. It just helps with maintaing pressure in different temps.

I had Nitro in all my tires. But a couple of weeks ago I got a nail in my back left. So now only 3 of my tires have Nitro in them and even then those have been topped off with O2. Haven't noticed a difference.

If you can get the dealer to top it off with Nitro for free then go for it. Otherwise, don't pay for it.

[greggie195]

Just to clear things up you are not using O2, you are using air. 78% N2/ 21%O2/ 1% "other"

You would just be diluting the N2 I don't see how that could be a problem. Personally I feel like it is a scam but that is just me. There are people that will also buy dehydrated water. Its just not for me.

[Knightro2]

Just to clear things up you are not using O2, you are using air. 78% N2/ 21%O2/ 1% "other"

DUH! I guess we should say "Fuel" from now on instead of "Gas" since we are burning a liquid. Or maybe we are watching "monitor" instead of "TV" since most people nowadays use a cable box and not the tuner in their set turning it into a monitor. Or that I need to specifically say I'm drinking a "Dr. Pepper" right now and not a "Coke" as that is the term in the south for all soda beverages.
Modified by Knightro2 at 12:09 PM 9/30/2008

[greggie195]

Gas, in this case, is actually short for gasoline, a mix of hydrocarbons or "fuel" and does not refer to the state of matter, so there should not be any confusion. Television or "T.V." refers to the entertainment that comes through the box, or monitor. Again, there should not be any confusion with that. I have never heard of compressed air refered to as oxygen or O2. Im pointing out that the "O2" I put in my tires is actually 78% N2. Where as what you put in your tires is 100% N2 and well worth the money I'm sure. By the way, I have this great bridge in Brooklyn to sell you if you are interested.

"Or that I need to specifically say I'm drinking a "Dr. Pepper" right now and not a "Coke" as that is the term in the south for all soda beverages."

I agree with this, you are drinking a Dr. Pepper, or soda, not a Coke as the Southerners say.

[NMI]

Just to clear things up you are not using O2, you are using air. 78% N2/ 21%O2/ 1% "other"

Ahh, the Grammar Police strike again!

[Knightro2]

Well, in that case I could call "Air" N2, O2, or Other if we are into shortening it like Gas.

Although your definition of TV was correct..so was mine.Television - a set for receiving television broadcasts.

And yes, I'm going to keep arguing (light heartedly I might add so no one get flustered and mad) because I'm bored at work watching status bars of programs installing today.

[greggie195]

Air can not be shortened into O2 and here's why. Gasoline is the accepted name for the hydrocarbon mix. You can not call gasoline heptane. Heptane is a constituant of gas, but is not the full make up of gas. I guess air could be shortened to A, but then no one would no what you are talking about!

Not the grammar police......the science police!

Well, in that case I could call "Air" N2, O2, or Other if we are into shortening it like Gas.And yes, I'm going to keep arguing (light heartedly I might add so no one get flustered and mad) because I'm bored at work watching status bars of programs installing today.

Replace watching status bars..... with wait for PCR to finish and I agree 100%!

[iluvmyVersa08]

My dealership told me that it won't kill us to mix air with nitrogen. However, if I were to do that they said that I should tell them during the next oil change. Not really sure why. I have had my Versa for just over 6 months, and I have nitrogen filled tires. I have gone for one oil change and my tire pressure has no decreased at all. I have put about 11000 KMS in the 6 months of owning it. So far so good! I know with my older car, I just had to fill the tires more often. But I don't really know the benefits yet of having Nitrogen filled tires.

[NMI]

Thank you for the answers people!

[Knightro2]

Nitrogen doesn't expand and contract as much as O2...excuse me...AIR does. So your tire pressure doesn't go up as your tires heat up on the road. Now, for most people this doesn't matter because tires don't heat up as much as airplanes or a NASCAR on the back stretch of Talledega that use Nitrogen as well. The main thing is as the seasons change, the pressure won't change.

Also, Nitrogen doesn't have moisture in it and isn't as corrosive as AIR so it doesn't degrade your tires as fast. But really this is not a benefit as for most people the tread will wear out far in advance of any degradation from corrosion.

The aviation industry and race teams have used nitrogen for decades...it's not a new thing. Just a new thing in the private sector to try and suck you out of money.

[nismo1]

Nitrogen doesn't expand and contract as much as O2...excuse me...AIR does. So your tire pressure doesn't go up as your tires heat up on the road. Now, for most people this doesn't matter because tires don't heat up as much as airplanes or a NASCAR on the back stretch of Talledega that use Nitrogen as well. The main thing is as the seasons change, the pressure won't change.

Also, Nitrogen doesn't have moisture in it and isn't as corrosive as AIR so it doesn't degrade your tires as fast. But really this is not a benefit as for most people the tread will wear out far in advance of any degradation from corrosion.

The aviation industry and race teams have used nitrogen for decades...it's not a new thing. Just a new thing in the private sector to try and suck you out of money.

This is true, BUT and this is a huge BUT..... Putting Nitrogen in tires is only effective if it is 95% nitrogen or higher!!! Less than that is useless!!! The Nitrogen molecules are larger than o2 molecules so it wont leak out over time like 02 does, also (like above) Nitrogen doesn't expand and contract like o2 does so you maintain your tire pressure better which leads to better gas mileage!! So you SHOULDN'T have to TOP off your tires and if you do, then there is a leak somewhere!! if there IS a leak somewhere then you can fill the tire with o2 just to get your tire fixed and refilled to 95% or better. This link is one company that sells a refilling station, but read the FAQ's:http://www.nitrofill.com/nitro....aspxSo, good luck and just read up on nitrogen, and you will be fine!!-Jamie