To me the last sentence is what really counts in that in the manual it clearly states not to use any other transmission fluid than Matic J. I came across this in the warranty information after looking at the local Infiniti (of Fife) newsletter which I just received today about using lower grade fuels. In the newsletter article it states you can without voiding the warranty because it was a recommendation to use the recommended octane not a requirement.SteveTheTech wrote:Most cases will not get to that point until they recall the part for a warranty examination. It doesn't happen all the time but when something that does not typically fail (ie an RE5) they may want it back or request a further investigation before a repair, like requesting any and all service records before approving any warranty claim. The failure is not technically a warranty issue. Click the image below to read more. The warranty information is standard and although you may able to pull the wool over their eyes, technically they do not have to replace anything for you that you have altered it in basically anyway or "improperly serviced" your car.
So if you had a bottle of Nissan fluid and a bottle of Brand X fluid and the only difference was the label, you'd still go with Nissan? What if you had the fluids in the exact same bottles with no labels and no way to distinguish between the two, which one would you pick?pfarmer wrote:Again even if a fluid is exactly the same then I figure it is still cheap insurance to use what is so strongly 'recommended'.
Completely different. If you buy a Pioneer at Best Buy or at another store it will still say Pioneer on it so when you are using it in your industry and a 3rd party will only guarantee that their DVR will work with a Pioneer you are covered.smockers83 wrote:
So if you had a bottle of Nissan fluid and a bottle of Brand X fluid and the only difference was the label, you'd still go with Nissan? What if you had the fluids in the exact same bottles with no labels and no way to distinguish between the two, which one would you pick?
Now I agree that in the real world it is like insurance to get Nissan, but if you have the exact same thing at a cheaper price, why pay more? It's economically irrational. That would be like buying a Pioneer plasma at a home theater boutique at $2000 versus going to Best Buy and buying it for $1000.
If one does just a drain and fill is the new S fluid compatible with the old J fluid.Poyzinous wrote:Its official. Not available anymore. J matic is all gone. Get your Matic S 2day...
got my tranny flushed with matic S last month at 34k miles... the tranny is definitly smootherPoyzinous wrote:Matic S will give you 2 more hp to the wheels
Would this value (2) apply to your year of 'G' or others as well?Poyzinous wrote:Matic S will give you 2 more hp to the wheels
Did it come out before or after the 08 model year for example? Curious for obvious reasons. If it is better then it may be worth while to do a fluid change even very early in the life of my vehicle.kmckis1029 wrote:im assuming he means going from J to S is a HP increase... the newer model Gs should already be using it i would think...
Since I then have Matic J is the 2 HP benefit you mention apply to all 'G's? I am thinking that if so, just maybe it could be beneficial to take advantage of this earlier than normal as far as a flush schedule.Poyzinous wrote:The 7speed tranny was developed and manufactured with Matic S. If you don't have a 7speed G then you have Matic J in your car. unless you have a manual tranny
I did it to my car. Cold shifts are noticably better. I think it was worth it. If you're in the 30 or 40k range there is no harm in doing it early. Some of the other techs I work with do their flushes every 20k. Like me!pfarmer wrote:maybe it could be beneficial to take advantage of this earlier than normal as far as a flush schedule.Perry
I was sort of thinking of 20k for the first one and then follow a 30-40k after.Poyzinous wrote:300th post! I'm doing wonderful... I did it to my car. Cold shifts are noticably better. I think it was worth it. If you're in the 30 or 40k range there is no harm in doing it early. Some of the other techs I work with do their flushes every 20k. Like me!
I just came from a Metro Toronto Infiniti dealer. I went to the parts department and asked them about the J fluid or the "new" S fluid for my 03 G. The man said that the J fluid is what they recommend. Ok, then that is what I must use. Who is going to argue with an authorized, genuine Infiniti dealer?Poyzinous wrote:Its official. Not available anymore. J matic is all gone. Get your Matic S 2day...
Be careful when you go up there, you will get a leaf instead of syrup on your pancakes.Poyzinous wrote:well you're in canada. I dont know whats going on up there, but I can tell you that when I made that post we couldn't order any more Matic J. We could and only can order Matic S. But then again you're in canada. Maybe the parts and chemical shipping centers still have plenty of matic J. At all my area dealers there is only matic S, since its been a while since J was made obselete. But you're in canada. Why am I repeating that? I just enjoy saying it Dont know why, but you should understand. you know, since you're in canada.
Sounds like you have a bad case of verbal diarrhea! lolPoyzinous wrote:But you're in canada. Why am I repeating that?
Sorry to revive such an old thread, but I had a question concerning this. I'm aware of this switch, but I came across a Nissan bulletin that seemed a little contradicting. It stated that if you ordered Matic J you would receive Matic S but not to worry bc Matic S can be used for Matic J applications. However, it then goes on to say " however in transfer cases you must use the type of fluid specified in the manual". Ok so I want to change the oil in my transfer case and order Matic J bc that's what the fsm calls for in a 2010 g37x, but then I'm sent Matic S bc they stop producing Matic J, which would be fine since Matic S can be used for Matic J applications, except for the transfer case which is what I'm trying to change, in which case I should use what the manual states, which is matic J, which I ordered, but received matic S instead. See the problem? it's a vicious circle. Anyway, all jokes and contradictions aside my only question/concern is: is it ok to use matic S in the transfer case if the manual originally calls for Matic J? Thank you in advance, i would really appreciate some feedback.Poyzinous wrote:Nissan Matic J Automatic Transmission Fluid will cease to exist. The New 7 Speed tranny uses Nissan Matic S. Matic S supercedes from Matic J, So basically your auto tranny will use Matic S. If you're thinking about doing a Auto Trans flush, wait a little while so you can get the new awesome stuff. Matic J was part number 999MP-MTJ00P and Matic S is just 999MP-MTS00P. It is the same price so don't freak out. The big differences between them are Matic S has better heat resistence and break downs less and is more durable, it is apparently nearly the same viscosity. It also it flows cleaner under pressure and it can substitute for blood if you get stabbed and need a refill . Matic S is also less bitter so there is better drinkability, and contains more Molybdenum and is enriched with Calcium and Iron . I may be joking about that last part. I don't know if it has more Molybdenum. But dont take the blood or potability parts serious either. Its trans fluid people, not One-a-day alcohol free liquor.