M vs M

[peter_rabbit]

Ok, i have a friend that recently bought an '04 Maxima SE. He insists that his car is faster than mine. Now, i normally just ignore comments about that because we ALL KNOW BETTER. But for the past 2weeks he's been sending me emails, text messages and i even got a hand written letter in the mail talking trash about how i'm going to have nightmares after he beats me. There's only 2 ways to shut him up, beat 'em or smack the hell out of him. Since he's kinda like a brother to me, smackin him willn ot be satisfying enough. But racing the Maxima is like challenging my 8yr old nephew to a foot race. No offense to you Maxima guys/gals He's went so far as to bet me $500. If i win i get the money, if i loose i have to take a pic with his car and a sign saying that i lost.

So, should i waste my time, gas and money(racing at the track for $20). Or should i just ignore his constent dares and slander?

[Mark Linkous]

Hello,Stock, you should have no worries. However, with the Maxima being a high volume car, there are many mods available for the Maxima. While there are not any for the Y34 M. If he has no mods, take it to the drag strip.Cheers,ML

[jadeM45]

You should not worry but with this guy and his comments I would not put the chance of him using nitrous. I also think there is a supercharger available for that car too.

Factory the car is listed at 15.17 for the 1/4, the M is listed at 14.2. Since the M is not a stick there isnt much chance for messing up so your time should be close to the listed time.

It sounds like he has a trick, Id check for nitrous. I saw a 04 maxima with a zex kit online with a 12.8 1/4.

[peter_rabbit]

I saw it last night for the first time. He hasn't added anything to it yet. Nitrous was the first thing that i looked for. I do need some new tires...or i could get that expensive tine

[xerexabante]

when you go to the track make sure you have it on manual mode to have it on 1st gear start, I believe in auto mode it starts on 2nd.

[CakeDaddy]

The 2004 Max SE 0-60 time of 6.2 vs. the Y34's 5.8 0-60 time. So, it may be close. Now, if some how he managed to sneak one of those stillen chips in it.............. you might get put together.

There is no way to avoid this if you want to sleep at night, but it sounds like this kid has something up his sleeve for you on track day. You may have to pull some tricks out of you sleeve in order to ensure a win. VDC off, 1/4 tank full, BG44k it before, disconnecting abs,traction ctrl, or something like that.What ever you do... Don't embarrass us! lol


Modified by CakeDaddy at 10:38 AM 7/24/2008

[jadeM45]

Just make sure you check the car really well. I have some friends who used to install a briefcase cheater nitrous system on cars. If you install the nozzel under the throttle body and run the lines carefully it can be nearly impossible to see.

Also if you do race him go ahead and make sure you remove all excess weight. Take out the spare, remove anything you have in the trunk and go with 1/4 tank of gas. You can also lower the air pressure in the rear tires about 5 or 6 pounds.

[nmgoodthing]

Is the Maxima FWD?

If this guy knows anything about cars he would have done his research about your car at least and stock for stock he doesn't have a chance. Sounds fishy.

Stock for stock go for it. When that tree hits the last last yellow light... FLOOR IT. Don't wait for the green. You should get a good reaction time with the slight delay on throttle response.

Altitude will also depend on your 1/4 miles times. If he has been lurking and seeing posted times such as mine which where 15.3 best, thats cause I'm at 5600 ft. Big difference. If your closer to sea level you will hit mid 14's maybe low.

Throw a little 101 unleaded octane in with your 91 to make a mixture. Should make it 94 octane. It makes a difference I don't care what the naysayers say. I shaved off 3 tenths.

Definetly take out your spare.

If he's manual and front wheel drive, unless he can drive he isn't going to hook.

[Mark Linkous]

Hello,All current and previous Maxima's are FWD. According to the reviews of the latest Maxima, RWD was seriously considered this time.Cheers,ML

[saeedakobiakov]

i would worry if he had an altima more. it is faster them maxima. time doen't strarts untill car starts to move. it is not important if he will start sooner.you will see the same resault on paper even if you wait for 5 seconds and punch it.

if you never practice lounching the car you can loose.practice make perfect.

[THT]

I'll run ya in my Maxipad for $500

You should demolish a stock 6th gen. They're heavy and underpowered.

[THT]

Hello,All current and previous Maxima's are FWD. According to the reviews of the latest Maxima, RWD was seriously considered this time.Cheers,ML

First gen was RWD but it was a short-lived, early 80s model.

[Mark Linkous]

Hello,I was wondering about the one when I was a kid. Back in the Datsun era.Cheers,ML

[szh]

On the M45, remember to disengage the VDC for the best launches! I would be perfectly fine with letting the car shift for me, without going through the gears myself, but do set it to the M position, since that will give you high rpm shifts - more optimized for performance.

Z

[regtwelve]

I googled times for both cars and saw 0-60 times of 6.2 & 6.3 consistently for the maxima. The M also had the same times, though there were a couple 5.7's and 5.8's thrown in, maybe they tested it on a very cold day. 1/4 mile times favored the M across the board by a half second or so.My mom has an 06 max SL with cvt and I've pegged it a couple times, it feels fast but not quite as fast as the M.

Unless you mess up or unless he is a pro racer it should be GG.

[MinisterofDOOM]

First gen was RWD but it was a short-lived, early 80s model.

Wasn't actually that short-lived...4 years. But yes, it was an early 80s model. From 1981 to 1984. And they were indeed Datsuns. Actually wore both the Nissan AND Datsun badges for one year. There was even a diesel option for that generation.

Stock 5at Max SE 1/4 was 15.4 if I recall correctly. I imagine the M can beat that by half a second. Maxima's at a disadvantage on launch with FWD, too...it's hard to launch a 6th gen Maxima without spinning the tires.

[peter_rabbit]

The only research he has done on my car is when i let him drive it about a month ago. He's one of those guys that like to keep things simple. So i doubt it if he adds a chip or nitrous. So with that said, we're going to try and do it tomorrow at the track if it stops raining by this afternoon. So after i take his money i'll decide to either buy tires or tint. Or both.

[peter_rabbit]

Well when it comes the time for me to seriously go fast in a straight line and corners, i break out with AnnaMae, my mustang. But if it's for fun, hell if i'm driving a skateboard i will see i fast i can go in a 1/4 mile

[Boon]

Back on topic now, Your car should dust his car if they are both stock. It all comes down to the driver though when the times are only .5 off.

[MATTEO]

I would not bet my money that you won't get betten...

I have a 2003 M45 ~ 70,000 km and my bro has a 2003 Maxima SE, Standard no mods.

Let me tell you, he beats me constantly, the worst is on the highway, and from moving.

I seem to beat him from the stoplight, but not always.

I know you might say that my car is brocken and some **** like that, but I can tell you, the Maximas, if the are in good condition, beat our cars....

here come the tomatoes...

[CakeDaddy]

I would not bet my money that you won't get betten...

I have a 2003 M45 ~ 70,000 km and my bro has a 2003 Maxima SE, Standard no mods.

Let me tell you, he beats me constantly, the worst is on the highway, and from moving.

I seem to beat him from the stoplight, but not always.

I know you might say that my car is brocken and some **** like that, but I can tell you, the Maximas, if the are in good condition, beat our cars....

here come the tomatoes...

lol.... now this is getting fun. The MAX is finally getting a positive prop

[THT]

I would not bet my money that you won't get betten...

I have a 2003 M45 ~ 70,000 km and my bro has a 2003 Maxima SE, Standard no mods.

Let me tell you, he beats me constantly, the worst is on the highway, and from moving.

I seem to beat him from the stoplight, but not always.

I know you might say that my car is brocken and some **** like that, but I can tell you, the Maximas, if the are in good condition, beat our cars....

here come the tomatoes...

5.5 gen is faster than a 6th gen. And I find it hard to believe that you can't take one from a roll since the VK45 makes more power up top than the VQ35.

[szh]

Guys, everyone is entitled to their opinion. And I generally do not worry about those types of posts too much. Whether I agree with them, or how one-sided they are, or generally how strongly they are stated, is not relevant.

But, I have deleted/edited/modified all personal flames and unnecessarily harsh words, or language that tries to get by our filters, or quick-to-jump posts. It simply is not needed.

Let's keep it on-topic and civil! Thanks!

Z

[regtwelve]

I lost to a previous gen max. looked like an 01 or 02 and I could have sworn it was a stick. This was shortly after I bought my car and had already dusted a stang GT and thought I was like untouchable. This wasn't as bad as loosing to a grand prix GXP by a hair but at least the max was an import. These cars are fast but the dude in the normal looking car next to you at the stop light may just be able to slightly whoop you

[MagicM]

looks like the 04+ Maximas and 03/04 M45 have very similar performance figures from what I've seen, looks like it would be a very close race. I'am actually surprised the 03/04 with the same engine and with lighter weight is quite a bit slower then 06+ M45s, maybe something to do with the gearing?.

[Boon]

No offense to anyone, but when you are racing a car that is statistically slower then yours and you lose, it all goes to the driver.

The biggest mistake from people racing these cars from a roll is that people just leave them in gear then gun it. That will lose you at least a half second of time while your transmission downshifts to the proper gear and start going. For the love of god if you are racing your M from a roll put it in manual mode and find the proper gear for the speed you are going. No reason this car should lose to any stock maxima ever made.

Also if you are racing our cars at the track, stick her in Manual mode, pop it down into 1st, then don't touch it. The ECU in our cars will auto shift the car at the peak of the gear right before your power curve starts to go south. It is actually the perfect shift everytime, at least in mine it is.
Modified by Boon at 9:22 AM 7/26/2008

[jdwall1013]

The drivers will determine the race not the car because you can have a fast car but if you can't drive it to it's potenial then you will get beat. That's real talk.

[Zamba]

Also if you are racing our cars at the track, stick her in Manual mode, pop it down into 1st, then don't touch it. The ECU in our cars will auto shift the car at the peak of the gear right before your power curve starts to go south. It is actually the perfect shift everytime, at least in mine it is.

You're saying the car will shift for you even in manual? I never knew that.

[candymanfb]

Any car that has auto-manual will shift itself when needed. It's mainly so an unexperienced driver using the manual mode does not kill the car. I remember my Dodge Intrepid having that option when in manual mode. The program prevents the driver from down shifting from 4th to 1st/2nd gear.I've tested it on numerous rental cars on business trips also!

[F1SportsFan]

You're saying the car will shift for you even in manual? I never knew that.

Yep, it's a blessing and a curse. The car will downshift and upshift even in manual mode, so it's more like semi-manual mode.

I used to have a Honda Prelude ( forgive me) and it would not down shift unless it was about to stall, and it would let you bounce off the rev limiter if you wanted. Much closer to a real "manual" than what we have.