Looking into going from Honda-Nissan...just a few questions.

[NismoDriver240]

The cool guys just read, laugh, and move on.

and yet you keep responding... maybe we're more alike than it seems

[chemao]

dont think that applies, you can def cheap out and get stuff like that but i was thinking FULL suspension including coilovers and new rods/braces, a decent set of wheels and tires geared for using the suspension to its max potential and a brake upgrade instead of OE replacement rotors and uprated pads to illustrate the difference between "toonerz modz" and actually building a decent setup.

You're right about that though! There's so much that can be done to a suspension. Typically people do shocks/springs (or coilovers), strut bar, and camber kit. And yah, some huge Willwoods are definitely a lot different than a standard 4 pot G35 setup. But the cooling of the rotors and good force from the ceramics (with some steel lines) seems pretty good for a DD don't you think? I don't think this guys likely to do a full suspension build any time soon. He's buying an S13 for a reason. Not everyone's a baller like you *grin*

[chemao]

i know that 277 isnt near 350 but you said anything over 230hp and he'll need internals. he made 277 with the boost turned up and bolt ons and he'll make at least 300hp with stock internals still

MY BAD! Good numbers

[White Comet]

Yah I meant that you can't just go somewhere and pick up what you need -- you typically have to order and wait for it. BTW, it's not just SR motors. Anything with high power typically doesn't last as long as a stock vehicle, WITH some obvious exceptions (supra and anything with the LS/LT motors)

How much power are you putting down with your SR - just curious.

dude, READ! you can use the alt off of a ka, z32 turbo gaskets, z31 o2 sensor, etc. nothing needs to be special ordered. as far as my sr goes i havent dynoed it or anything. i went for a spirited drive with my friend that has the 277 hp and kept up alright. im not really sure though, my avcr has boost set at 10psi on the low setting

[chemao]

and yet you keep responding... maybe we're more alike than it seems

LOL no doubt haha seriously man, I've been laughing my butt off the whole day. I'm in Boston right now visiting my girlfriend. We should have a beer together. I'm flying home tomorrow night.

[White Comet]

MY BAD! Good numbers

its all good, i dont really think your some trolling *******. you just need to read and learn a little since you come off very sure of yourself, even when spreading misinformation. nothing personal though

[ca18detgabby]

DEAR GOD........ For someone who is "Chilled" and "laughs and moves on" you sure do keep coming back and bitching.

Yah I meant that you can't just go somewhere and pick up what you need -- you typically have to order and wait for it. BTW, it's not just SR motors. Anything with high power typically doesn't last as long as a stock vehicle, WITH some obvious exceptions (supra and anything with the LS/LT motors)

How much power are you putting down with your SR - just curious.

funny every part for my CA can be picked up at autozone.... short of the snail, a new intake mani, and exhaust manifold. Which also is something KA-T gets to order.

your theory is that KA-T parts are everywhere? stock components arent going to do you any good when you are building high HP.

seriously your an idiot and seem to have something to prove...... other wise you would have shut your trap long ago.

On the other hand, please stay here and try to prove your point(which at this point Im not sure what it is) as the last thing we need is a tard like you on the road.

[chemao]

dude, READ! you can use the alt off of a ka, z32 turbo gaskets, z31 o2 sensor, etc. nothing needs to be special ordered. as far as my sr goes i havent dynoed it or anything. i went for a spirited drive with my friend that has the 277 hp and kept up alright. im not really sure though, my avcr has boost set at 10psi on the low setting

Never too deeply like that into the SR -- My buddy got me addicted to the KA long before I bought one. Maybe you're making 240-ish? I guess you're dusting most stangs and a few chevy's too ha? How much do you have in your engine setup?

[chemao]

DEAR GOD........ For someone who is "Chilled" and "laughs and moves on" you sure do keep coming back and bitching.

funny every part for my CA can be picked up at autozone.... short of the snail, a new intake mani, and exhaust manifold. Which also is something KA-T gets to order.

your theory is that KA-T parts are everywhere? stock components arent going to do you any good when you are building high HP.

seriously your an idiot and seem to have something to prove...... other wise you would have shut your trap long ago.

On the other hand, please stay here and try to prove your point(which at this point Im not sure what it is) as the last thing we need is a tard like you on the road.

This is way too much fun to quit. BTW, I have heard the CA is a 4 cylinder version of an RB. Is that the case? I'm amazed you can get all your parts at Autozone. Never known anyone that has that motor, but I see people saying they are hard to find parts for. I guess that's not the case?

[ca18detgabby]

This is way too much fun to quit. BTW, I have heard the CA is a 4 cylinder version of an RB. Is that the case? I'm amazed you can get all your parts at Autozone. Never known anyone that has that motor, but I see people saying they are hard to find parts for. I guess that's not the case?

hear say makes you look foolish. Yes it does bare a striking resemblence to the RB series and was used in the R30-R32 skyline in a NA setup...... it isnt an RB.

it was used state side in an NA FWD layout in the pulsar it was also used in a RWD SOHC turbo lay out in the S12

[chemao]

hear say makes you look foolish. Yes it does bare a striking resemblence to the RB series and was used in the R30-R32 skyline in a NA setup...... it isnt an RB.

it was used state side in an NA FWD layout in the pulsar it was also used in a RWD SOHC turbo lay out in the S12

You sure know a lot about your CA CA motor lol Yah it's always like that. People jump to conclusions and get way off sometimes. I think you should let what's-his-face know what you think since I believe the CA18 is even cheaper to source than the SR20. Maybe it's just what the doctor ordered!

[White Comet]

Never too deeply like that into the SR -- My buddy got me addicted to the KA long before I bought one. Maybe you're making 240-ish? I guess you're dusting most stangs and a few chevy's too ha? How much do you have in your engine setup?

yeah 240ish sounds about right. i havent really put a whole lot into it. i bought the car for $4500 with the sr in. i sold the old bov and used the money to buy my ssqv, i also bought an hks hi power muffler for $150 and put it on. i bought an avcr for $400. ive done a lot more to it (click the pic in my sig for details) but i havent spent more then like $600 in making it faster. i focused on the body, maintenance, repairs, suspension, braking, etc

[freakyjason]

This thread is ridiculous.

[urcaptnspeaking]

agreed^

[verSat1l3]

Ironic that theres an obvious Napoleon complex present here with the guy who has two dictators/oppressors names in his. Chemao = CHE and MAO... look it up.

The all bold in your posts is as bad as all caps. My guess is half the things you posted are a lie or something you read somewhere. The only point I can tell you were trying to make is that you are better than everyone at everything. To top it all off your picture makes you look like Euro trash with a popped collar =

You ARE - in fact - a douche.

DEAR GOD........ For someone who is "Chilled" and "laughs and moves on" you sure do keep coming back and bitching.seriously your an idiot and seem to have something to prove...... other wise you would have shut your trap long ago.On the other hand, please stay here and try to prove your point(which at this point Im not sure what it is) as the last thing we need is a tard like you on the road.

Gabby, I love you.

[ken240sx]

Time for me to step in and clear things up, as it has been said before (refer to sig), the naked man is always right. yes I post naked a lot and it helps me focus. Onward to the closure of this argument.....

SR20-Cheap swap ($2500ish if done yourself)-Instant 205hp(170whp)-Easy to obtain 250hp from minor bolt-ons and boost(an extra grand or so)-Parts are as readily available as the KA nowadays(not like back in the 90's)-Rev a little higher and when built right can handle loads of power-Easy swap compared to an RB or LS1(other common swaps)-Can handle 350whp"ISH" on stock internals if tuned right(tuning is the most important aspect of any power increase...MOST IMPORTANT!!!!!)-JDM (LoL I guess)

KA24ET/DET-No swap-Parts easily obtainable-Easier to find junkyard parts than imported engines-Can handle 350whp on stock internals also(WITH PROPER TUNE LIKE MENTIONED BEFORE)-Cheaper to build for boosting stock internals(1000-3000 for boost gets you 200-300whp range)-Easier than swapping an engine....just bolt on and tune...-Better torque production than sr-Iron block(no need to sleeve for most applications)...slightly heavier but iron is stronger than aluminum.

CA-Cheap swap-Easy swap compared to RB or LS1-More power than stock KA-Higher revving-Parts are fairly easy to find-Bolt ons can also bring you to over 200whp for relatively cheap-Better gas mileage lol-Can't handle as much power on stock internals or block-When built properly and tuned good, can still put out very competitive power to sr and ka-JDM, but a bit more rare

RB26 -Motor screams badass-Stong block and internals-Can handle loads of power and is reliable with it-Parts harder to find-Parts more expensive-Harder swap-More expensive swap-More power and torque than most other swaps-Bolt ons give you great power

RB25-Less expensive than the RB26-More expensive than the the other swaps-Good power output-Strong internals-Parts somewhat harder to to find-Harder than the SR or CA swap-More displacement than SR, CA, RB20 and KA-Bolt-ons produce great power output

RB20-Smaller displacement than the other skyline motors-Cheapest skyline swap-Not as much power as the other skyline swaps-More expensive than CA and SR-More power than CA, SR, and KA-Can handle good amounts of power on stock internals and block-Still a little harder to find parts than a KA-Parts a little more expensive than KA-Bolt ons produce 13 sec 240's

LS motor(commonly found in camaro, firebird, vettes)-Loads of torque-Can pick one up for 3-4 grand with transmission and low mileage-LS7 is can be found for only 8 grand with transmission and no miles(505hp )-Good reliability in stock and bolt-on form-Easy as hell to get parts-Harder swap than most-Sounds down right nasty!-Bolt-ons give great, cheap power-Lighter than KA

[Dittoz7]

Motor Vs. Motor Thread Go!

[ken240sx]

yea tell me about it...All motors have their advantages and disadvantages, it's all in your budget and what you want out of the car for how much effort/money/badass factor.

[ceno]

Rb20 is CHEAP. 1k gets you a decent motor, and you should be able to install it yourself.

[TannerDanger]

Snap dude, what kind of job earns you 40K in 3 months? Hook me up man! My girl eats mine up I gotta make some back

Door to door security sales I make anywhere from $300-900 in a day. More is definately possible but I'm not THAT good. Not too shabby for a 19 year old eh?

My best friend/manager made 80k his very first summer at age 23 and bought an EVO 9

Man I love what a pandoras box I opened with this thread lol

[apollas]

Rb20 is CHEAP. 1k gets you a decent motor, and you should be able to install it yourself.

i got mine for 1200, and if you can swap an sr/ca, rb be just as simple. majority of my regularly changing parts (non performance parts) are picked up from your nearest autozone/kragens.

[Kalypso]

chemao- i think you are a dush.

, you're a hot mess buddy. relax sit back and analyze the situation.

the proper advice is already here - look at build threads and just read.

KA-T.org is the way to go, i love my SR but the KA is champ material.

[chemao]

Ironic that theres an obvious Napoleon complex present here with the guy who has two dictators/oppressors names in his. Chemao = CHE and MAO... look it up.

Che is a different format for QI, and MAO is cat. Powerful kitty

The all bold in your posts is as bad as all caps. My guess is half the things you posted are a lie or something you read somewhere.

Exactly what is it that you think is a lie? Also, whether I read something somewhere or not is a nonissue. You mean to tell me you don' t read? LOL

The only point I can tell you were trying to make is that you are better than everyone at everything. To top it all off your picture makes you look like Euro trash with a popped collar =

I'm not sure how teasing someone and suggesting they go with a cheaper and very powerful setup is "better than everyone at everything." That pic was a fun picture I snapped at the airport on my way to a business trip. The collar popping was just for fun but the pic came out looking pretty cool. You're probably just saying that because you're not cool enough to get away with it. Let me guess, you hang out in bars and stuff dressed in blue jeans and t-shirts. Right? LOL Okay, since you're in love with me, I'll change my pic to something else. Sounds good?

You ARE - in fact - a douche.

Hey finally someone knows how to spell it! You get a cookie. And by the way, I guess that means I get more P@#$Y than you! LOL

Gabby, I love you.

You can have it! Any self respecting douche like me would stay FAR away from a chunky puppy like that! LOL instead of driving she should be jogging!

[VirginiaPS13]

You can have it! Any self respecting douche like me would stay FAR away from a chunky puppy like that! LOL instead of driving she should be jogging!

Why would you even say something like that? Someone should make you swallow your teeth for saying something like that to that girl!! And I'm pretty sure by some of your statements and your avatar your and expert at swallowing!
Modified by VirginiaPS13 at 1:55 PM 5/6/2008

[White Comet]

I'm not sure how teasing someone and suggesting they go with a cheaper and very powerful setup is "better than everyone at everything."

and here i thought there was hope for you . the ka is not more powerful and not normally really cheaper either

You can have it! Any self respecting douche like me would stay FAR away from a chunky puppy like that! LOL instead of driving she should be jogging!

wow, you are a total a$$. she didnt say anything to you that deserved that and it was really uncalled for. you dont need to insult people that know what theyre talking about

[ken240sx]

stepping back so I can watch this thread and LoL at it becoming personal.

[Ilvemynissan]

FYM

[Gonzo]

Are the mods dead, this thread deserves to be locked.

[shiux]

Im glad I sold my 240sx.

Isnt there a car community to be proud to be apart of?

[verSat1l3]

Exactly what is it that you think is a lie? Also, whether I read something somewhere or not is a nonissue. You mean to tell me you don' t read? LOL

Hmmm, your car list for starters. Maybe you drove some of those, but I highly doubt you owned them all in your name. Also if you repeat things you read without confirmation, you will often find that you are wrong, and sound like an idiot.

I'm not sure how teasing someone and suggesting they go with a cheaper and very powerful setup is "better than everyone at everything." That pic was a fun picture I snapped at the airport on my way to a business trip. The collar popping was just for fun but the pic came out looking pretty cool. You're probably just saying that because you're not cool enough to get away with it. Let me guess, you hang out in bars and stuff dressed in blue jeans and t-shirts. Right? LOL Okay, since you're in love with me, I'll change my pic to something else. Sounds good?

That was teasing? Sounded more like a retarded teenager talking sh1t. As for my blue jeans and tee shirt, hell yea thats what I wear. Why wear uncomfortable clothes out to a bar? You can wear your flip flops and popped collar to the glbt night at your local martini bar, but sh1t happens and I'd rather be able to knock someone out and then leave the bar without tripping over my footwear or getting blood on my button up. Seriously, when I see someone with their collar popped I want to walk over and break their nose. You don't need to be "cool enough" to get away with a popped collar, you need to be an egotistical d!ck/seeking attention. Change the picture to a horses *** and I think you'll be good to go.

Hey finally someone knows how to spell it! You get a cookie. And by the way, I guess that means I get more P@#$Y than you! LOL

Doubt it. Besides, keeping score with the grenades you've popped off is kind of like keeping track of all the times you got your as$ kicked in school. Which I'm pretty sure was plenty. Didn't you say your girl lives in Boston? And you live in TX? Oh yea, you pimp you. Mackin on all the myspacers huh?

You can have it! Any self respecting douche like me would stay FAR away from a chunky puppy like that! LOL instead of driving she should be jogging!

Wow, again you amaze us all with an even dumber comment. Say what you will, I think that girl is mad cool and pretty cute as well. I wish more women had her car knowledge but all I can do is keep teaching my current one... You go now, and continue to be an *** in your own world. You won't be missed in everyone else's.

Yea, I know I'm part to blame here, but I'd like to see this thread gone too.