well I got a S14 Speed sensor from a buddy (as long as its SR or KA I don't think it matters)....& what Sucks Is I bought a BRAND new SR/KA Coolant temp sensor for my SR and haven't installed it yet..so i guess I can Sell it and try to find a S14 one.

So the Cluster wiring unplugs from behind the dash,..so you can remove it.???? And then plug it right back in or what?

I got someone that might Sell me his DOHC wiring from his S13 Dash so I can do like you did w/ a Spare harness and just Plug n' play.

Don't most of the Colors Actually just Match right up??Glad I found those Maxima Plugs for the Kouki Cluster

RCCC_DRiFteR wrote:that does help alot!! thanks. But the speed sensor needs to be a s14 KA speed sensor correct??

Yep, s14 KA or s14 SR speed sensor.

MrFairlady wrote:well I got a S14 Speed sensor from a buddy (as long as its SR or KA I don't think it matters)....& what Sucks Is I bought a BRAND new SR/KA Coolant temp sensor for my SR and haven't installed it yet..so i guess I can Sell it and try to find a S14 one.

So the Cluster wiring unplugs from behind the dash,..so you can remove it.???? And then plug it right back in or what?

I got someone that might Sell me his DOHC wiring from his S13 Dash so I can do like you did w/ a Spare harness and just Plug n' play.

Don't most of the Colors Actually just Match right up??Glad I found those Maxima Plugs for the Kouki Cluster

The gauge cluster wiring has a connectors that connect into the main harness behind the dash... you can see in the last picture, two connectors, black and white. I'm guessing you haven't pulled your dash board off yet. :-D But anyway. those connectors are behind the center a/c vent. I was able to get them off without pulling off the dash, so just have patience as it's very tight behind there.

I don't think all the colors matched up correctly, but since you're using a maxima plug, I would not assume any wire would match up correctly.. that's like blindly soldering the wires together and praying that everything works. Just identify the wiring location by the back of the gauge cluster and identify the wiring on the s13 harness. All in the pics above.

whowutwut wrote:
Yep, s14 KA or s14 SR speed sensor.

The gauge cluster wiring has a connectors that connect into the main harness behind the dash... you can see in the last picture, two connectors, black and white. I'm guessing you haven't pulled your dash board off yet. :-D But anyway. those connectors are behind the center a/c vent. I was able to get them off without pulling off the dash, so just have patience as it's very tight behind there.

I don't think all the colors matched up correctly, but since you're using a maxima plug, I would not assume any wire would match up correctly.. that's like blindly soldering the wires together and praying that everything works. Just identify the wiring location by the back of the gauge cluster and identify the wiring on the s13 harness. All in the pics above.

No I haven't started on mine yet.Couldn't Remember if the cluster harness Seperated.No I was going to Re-Pin the S13 Factory Wires into the Maxima Harness plug I have.

I'll get started on it,as soon as I can get another S13 Cluster harness.

I was going to re-pin the 180sx plug but it seems like they use a thicker pin so the us 240sx pins didn't just go into the plastic cplug. If the maxima one matches the us 240sx pins, that would make a pretty clean install. good luck man!

MrFairlady wrote:I'll get started on it,as soon as I can get another S13 Cluster harness.

Put up some pics of it for us!!

Also, what if I'm using a NIsmo thermostat!?!?

RCCC_DRiFteR wrote:Also, what if I'm using a NIsmo thermostat!?!?

RCCC_DRiFteR wrote:

thermostat won't matter..its the Temp sensor to relay back to the Gauge.

oh ok, so the temp sensor.... lol no idea where that's at. lol my motor has been empty for awhile lol

RCCC_DRiFteR wrote:oh ok, so the temp sensor.... lol no idea where that's at. lol my motor has been empty for awhile lol

Should be under the throttle body on an SR..KA I think in the same spot.

Tough spot to get to and need a Crazy Socket to get it out..espically w/o breaking it.hopefully The S14 will plug in (i know it will fit) like normal and there won't need to be anymore wires run from it.maybe the Signal is just diff I hope.

need to get one on the way.west covina has them listed like they are all diff. KA24,S13 SR,S14SR. ($22.00 ea.)

jeeze, the type x cluster is gangster but so much wiring and misc things!!

damn i just bought this same cluster thinking it was plug n play. ebay seller did not give that information. i also didnt get 180sx cluster harness. im also rockin a CA18DET...TEMP & SPEED SENSOR are prob different for my swap.
Modified by splintercell at 6:28 PM 9/3/2008

yeah my friend is tryin to throw in that cluster for his CA too. good luck

RCCC_DRiFteR wrote:yeah my friend is tryin to throw in that cluster for his CA too. good luck

yeah i might just throw this in the closet until i build another 240, but with sr next time

alright so, my question is do u need to replace the temp and speed sensors no matter what, or is it dependent on the engine you have? i have an s13 sr black top. will i still need to replace those sensors? if i do its fine, i just want to know. where woudl be the best place (read: cheapest) to get thsoe sensors?

I would think you wouldnt have to do anything since you have an SR. i think thise sensors are if you have KA.

ok thats awesome then

White Comet wrote:alright so, my question is do u need to replace the temp and speed sensors no matter what, or is it dependent on the engine you have? i have an s13 sr black top. will i still need to replace those sensors? if i do its fine, i just want to know. where woudl be the best place (read: cheapest) to get thsoe sensors?

You probably need to replace the speed and temp sensor. The speed and temp sensors needs to send the right signal to the gauge cluster in order to work properly. It's not a KA vs SR issue, it's a year issue. The s13 KA and SR speed sensor are identical if produced at the same time. The type X cluster was made around the time the s14 240sx was being sold in the US, so they shared the s14 sensors, which is why you need to replace the sensors when doing this swap .

Cheapest, I would search the classifieds. I didn't replace the temp sensor cuz I have an aftermarket gauge.

no big deal. thanks for the heads up though that makes sense. i just didnt know if my engine would be fine since its an sr made during the s14 years (my engine is a 97).

i do however have one more question. this is mostly directed at mrfairlady or anyone else who has used a maxima harness. after my last post in here i went to a nearby junkyard and picked up the gauge harnesses out of a 94 maxima. the only thing i wasnt sure about is that there are 3 plugs in the back of the maxima cluster and the type x cluster only uses 2. im wondering which 2 plugs i need. to be on the safe side i took them all. here are pics, so if someone could help me, that would be awesome. 2 of the plugs came out attached as you can see in the 2nd pic (the white and black plug) the other white plug is by itself. the 2 white plugs look identical though, besides wire colors. thanks for the help

i would guess the 2 white plugs, but when you get it tomorrow youll be able to plug them in & tell.

i know im so excited. i have the best wiring specialist around working on making a plug and play harness out of the maxima plugs. i'll post pics when its done.im gonna see if i need the sensors real quick but just putting the cluster in and seeing what it reads

ok white comet here is what that harness you got is the wrong one that's from this cluster its out of a 94 that's y there are 3 plugsthe harness you need is out of the 95-99 maximas look at the back of this cluster there are only two connectors like the one that's on the type X also count the copper pins on the back of the cluster then match it to the type x cluster and you will see that their the same BACKFrontsorry for the ebay pics and here is the actual for sale link stating that its a 95-99 clusterhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW
Modified by finalgear at 8:53 PM 9/16/2008

wait im kinda confused. you said i need to use the maxima cluster with 2 plugs, but the pics show 3 plus in both pics

there are 3 plugs but only two are like the ones on the back of the type X with the same amount of tabs on the plug (don't know if that made any sense) also compare the plugs on the first page to the ones you have on the sides of the plugs should have little tabs that slide into the groves on the cluster, the plugs that you posted are smoth on the sides also count the metal tabs on the plugs that you have your are like 3 3 on both sides on the type x it like 3 4 on one side and 4 5 on the other side of the plug. hell i think i just confused everyone on this thread and myself lol

i got ya now. damn, i paid $5 for those plugs oh well i'll find 95-99 ones. can anyone answer my question about needing the sensors

you should be ok with the sensors because your motor is a 97 s14 sr black top with the notch correct?

White Comet wrote:i got ya now. damn, i paid $5 for those plugs oh well i'll find 95-99 ones. can anyone answer my question about needing the sensors

Here's a simple way to find out. I'm assuming that you have a s13 240sx. Is the SR running ?

If so and the gauge cluster works, then you do not have the type x speed sensor and will need the s14 speed sensor. If the stock KA gauge cluster does not work, then you probably will not need to get the sensors

finalgear wrote:you should be ok with the sensors because your motor is a 97 s14 sr black top with the notch correct?

no i have an s13 sr blacktop, not the notch top

whowutwut wrote:
Here's a simple way to find out. I'm assuming that you have a s13 240sx. Is the SR running ?

If so and the gauge cluster works, then you do not have the type x speed sensor and will need the s14 speed sensor. If the stock KA gauge cluster does not work, then you probably will not need to get the sensors

that makes perfect sense. yeah, my ka stock cluster works so its time for new sensors.

ps- just so you know. you can get an s14 temp sensor from the dealer for $18. teh speed sensor is another story.......they want $197 for it

dam that's alot for the speed sensor thank god i have one laying around if i find one i will let you know WC

holey crap that wiring is a pain in the *** to do i just finished and will test it out tomorrow i really don't feel like messing with the car right now. lol ok i gave in and did the cluster lol and everything works i think
Modified by finalgear at 9:03 PM 9/17/2008

ok guys i need some help here i need to wire up the s14 speed sensor but i neet to know what wire is + and what is - on both so i don't destroy the sensors thanks.

finalgear wrote:ok guys i need some help here i need to wire up the s14 speed sensor but i neet to know what wire is + and what is - on both so i don't destroy the sensors thanks.

I just guessed and wired it up. Drove the car and saw it was working and never looked back.

Reminder: When I swapped the sensor, I jacked the rear of the car up as much as possible so that the transmission fluid didn't drain when I pulled out the speed sensor. Only a drop came out when I removed the s13 sensor.