just had an interview with an army recruiter

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

wsupz people

i just had an interview with an army recruiter and they sort of talked me into it and got me thinking now. The recruiter asked me what i like and i said "i like hooking cars up and high tech performance stuff" Then he said While you in the army what's gonna stop you from doing that? so the answer is NOTHING. I just graduated from a auto tech school and planning to go on to college soon, and the recruiter can get me into most of the college i want to go to and have a tuition reimburstment also(the G.I bill). He said if i join it doens't necessary mean i'm going to fight if a war breaks out, i just have to support it doing whatever my job was. So i don't know man they got me thinking real hard about it, just want to see what you guys think about this and what ya gotta say about it.

Please be for real and no joking cause this will be a big decision to make...

Post by **Zydeco** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

If you just went to auto tec school why do you want to join the army? Do you want to fix tanks and stuff like that? If thats the case go for it, but if your going to get money for school. I think there are better ways to get money. I took out a student loan for about 20 grand and i have 8.5 years to pay it off.

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

i went to the auto tech school cuase is what i like...but since i'm going off to college for auto enginnering soon and they army can pay for my schooling and stuff, so i'm thinking why not then..u know?

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

Have you ever had a bullet zip by your head? Ever wondered whether you are going to make it home alive? Ever thought "can I kill a man"? The military is not just a job or some money for college, it is deadly serious work. I'm not saying don't do it, just understand what you are signing on for.

Post by **fiznat** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

I considered it back in highschool, way back when our country wasnt itching for war. I wouldnt even THINK about it now... seriously like joining "doesnt necessairly mean you'll go to war." Yeah, right. I know so many people right now who are enlisted and are scrambling to find legit excuses to not get shipped off, because they know they will be in the next couple months.

Dont do it. It's not as nice and easy and fun as they make it sound.

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

well he said it doens't necessary mean i'm going to a battlefield if a war breaks out, i just have to do whatever my job was to suppor the US. Like if i was a mechanic in the army i would be fixing cars that got fuk up.

well i get what you saying, that's why i'm asking people and thinking hardddd on this thing.

Post by **dennis** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

if your worried about needing money to go to school look into the school UTI. http://www.uticorp.com . im going there next september i have no money and my parents wont pay a cent for me to go to school, so im gonna have to pay for it all in student loans, but with this school its a one year school and after you graduate you go to a graduate program school thats like 15-30 weeks more(depending on which one) . the graduate program is for a specific manufacturer, (BMW, Mercedes, Porshe, Ford, VW, Audi, Jaguar. and some more). you then become a certified technician for that manufacturer, and most of them pay off almost all of your student loans, a few of them pay it off completely. I dont know if thats what you lookng to do or what but check it out theres a lot of other really cool things about the school.

dennis

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

dude don't go to the army, heck that would really suck. Its notlike if you just get tired you quit. They pay for your schoool so you have to go to join them for a long time. Well if you join thats pretty crazy...

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

Call me at home at (502) 968 4728, for any and all honest (and I hope, reasonably insightful) advice.

After 14 years in the Army in all sorts of ranks and units/specialties I have picked up a bit here and there.

Fred..:thumbup

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

thanks for the link dennis, i already went to apex( something like uti) and what you talking about is called the CTG program right?i was suppose to take that exam last saturday but i didn't summit my paperwork so now i have to wait another week or so. Well i'm not concerning about money for school cause i know there is loan you can get and stuff, is just that the army have a BENIFIT and i wont' have to loan money , you get me? but cool thanks~

Post by **fiznat** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

how many years do they want you to do?

dont forget about the air force and navy as well if you're really considering it (nevermind the marines if you're just there for the money). the army isnt the only option... they sometimes have slightly different benefits and whatnot, plus your whole experience will obviously be very different. Think about it I guess, but I still say dont do it.

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

yea i already talked to an marine recruiter before as well, and i find the army is more suitable for me because they have more base around than navy/marine. Well the real concern right now that everyone seems to posted was "will your *** be shipped to the battlefield and can you fight/killl people" so the army, navy, marine, airforce is all the same.

also their benifit btw all them that they have to offer isn't really any different.

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

i don't know man, is hard.

is tempting to me and stuff but everyone is scaring me about the war thing. lol, damn~

so just thinking hard on it and want to hear more people on this.

Website · Post by **daniel240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

i was in the exact same situation you are in. i actually joined the army and the only reason i did was because of the $ for college. this was over a yr. ago before all the fighting and sh## happened. i signed up to be a mechanic. i was supposed to go to basic training this last summer. i went to a few mettings to kinda get the feel of it. well the whole time deep down i really did not want to do it. the main reason i was was for the $ and my parents kinda wanted me to. then the 9-11 sh## happened and at the next meeting i went to they were all talking about it and one of the guys in my dept. told me i should get out of it then while i could before i went to basic. as soon as he said that i was like F### this S### im outa here. so called my recruiter up and told him. had to have a meeting with him and another guy and they tried everything to convince me to stay, they were so F###ing desperate it was pittiful. but im out now and it was the best decision i have ever made because now im at a 80K college w a scholarship that the army wouldnt have came close to paying. theres plenty of other ways out there to get $ for college, my advice is dont do it. you will regret it once you do.

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

Joining the Army or any other service for college money is not the right reason.

War-fighting is what we are about, this reflected especially in the reality of being in our ground services (Army + Marines).

Most specialties are not at the front, but even so, if one is uncomfortable with the prospect of fighting ,one should not join.

As for benefits they are indeed identical between the services

Advantages/disadvantges:

Army: Is the largest service, has the largest selection of MOS's (job specialties) and has generally the largest selection oif assignments ( not that u will have total control ove rit)It's a bit more beraucratic than some of the other services due to its size but that wont affect you until you are advanced in rank.

Marines:Have a deserved reputation for good tough training for everyone, as teh smallest service promotions are hard to come by, sometimes, but great esprit the corps.Downside : not as many hi tech specialties as the other services.

Navy: second largest service, very hi tech, good selection of job specialties, wont get dirty as much as in Army or Marines.Disadvantage horrible looking uniforms for the enlisted men, extremely elitist. In Army or Marines Officers will share hardships with their men when deployed.A naval deployment on ship involves an extremely caste consious system.

Air force:The most "liberal" of all services. Lots of hi tech job areas, but much complaints about boredom.Also as an enlisted man you cna never do the cutting edge os Air stuff (pilot) whereas in Army you can for sure shoot at the enemy w/ your rifle.generally deserves its reputation as a kinder/gentler service.But I have noticed that traing standards are not up to some of the otehr services (maybe for that reason?).Air Force does a good job with not being too bereauatcratic though.

Fred...

Post by **dennis** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

yea no problem , i think thats the same as what i was talking about . by the way how was apex?

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

Apex is wack! alot and i mean ALOT of people go in and fuk around, don't even know why they pay to go to school and fuk around. Most teacher will pass a student that never went to class just because they don't want to have them again. But then if you there to really learn, you do get alot out of it. I hope Uti ain't the same as apex. So did you signed up already?

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

wow palmerwmd, you sound like you know alot about the military, were you in it before?

anyways due to all these concern about wars and stuff, also i just talked to my boi and he talked me out of it. So i guess i wont' be going no more and stick to my orginal plans.

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

I am in it now (in my 15th year).

have been in a lot of different units/assigments/ specialties.

My home # for the scoop is in another post in this thread.

Fred..

Post by **MikeMurphy** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

post this in [url]www.that dead forum[url] and you will find that ALOT of people in that forum are army/navy folk. Goodluck.

Post by **dennis** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

nah UTI is really strict, well atleast if you wanted to get accepted to a graduate program, you have to mantain a 3.5 gpa and atleast 95% attendence or you wont get accepted at all. Also they graduate programs wont accept you if you have moving violations on your license i know BMW and almost all you can have 2 at the most i think but Porsche you can only have like 1, there really strict. Im sure you can screw around and not do good but then you wont go anywhere im definitely planning on like dedicating all my time to it so i get accepted to atleast BMW, hopefully porsche but they say its really hard the only accpet a few people. The only reason i want to do porsche besides them being such sick cars is the guy told me the porsche graduate school is in Georgia and you get to test the cars on Road America on some days. I would definitely look into UTI a little more if i were you maybe just call up the number ask them some stuff i dont know i think it is such a good oppertunity.

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

uti is like apex, is another trade school. I already graudated one already so i wont' go for another one. I'm looking for university right now, i started a topic on it, if you wanna take a look at it it's on like the 1st page or 2nd page of the genneral chat. Anyways, it's just sEEM strict to you right now that's what it seems when i first got into apex, but after you in it you'll see the real side. But then i hope you'll right that it is strict. To get into the program is stict doesn't mean the school itself is strict becuase that is how apex is inorder to get into the CTG.

oh yea if you want to get into a dealer ship, be a tech and make money..my instructorssss told me that NAME/fame doesn't matter in this field. Which ever manufactuer have the most car out there and breaks down the most makes you the most money.

Post by **Tino** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

military, yea that might be my only option as well. Seeing as my old man was a seal, err not a seal whatever you grunts call the navy guys i know about "join the navy and ride the wavs" but im rambling now.

Post by **SRdS14** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

i'd give palmrwnd a call bro...talk to people that have been there (normal people like me and you). a recruiter will tell you great things, and yes they can "NECESSARILY" be great, but then you may "NECESSARILY" go to war.... it goes both ways. chances are that right now, you will probably go to war...i mean look whats goin on now man. i don't think it'll be over soon. i'm not in the military, but that is my opinion...everyone has thought about the military at some point in their lives...i have a lot of friends that are military. its not there just so u can have money and spend it on your car...feel me?? its serious S H I T.

~Scott

Post by **GotBoost4Yall** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

I'm on DEP,leaving on March 12 for the Army. There is nothing wrong with being in the service. I'm not afraid of whats going on,damn 8.5 years to pay off a student loan,hope that was worth it. I will be working on the Bradley Systems,the electronics on the Bradley fighting vehicle. I'm also under MGI Bill with $32,000 for school and my job is transferable to civilian world such as a contractor for Lockheed Martin. I'm not in it for the money but an actual change of life,I did school and that didn't work out.Had the 3rd shift job that was hell with escpecially being in school. Tired of buying these project cars and not having money to invest in it,while sitting around watching all your other friends rot away doing nothing in life going to school for years to become nothing. I'll be out in 2003 and will come be back with something to show for it.

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

well good luck to you my man.

Post by **Repo Man** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

The Army can be great and it can also be a drag. I am in favor of it and am technically still in until 2006. My MOS is 11B, which is infantry. I missed going to Kuwait by a few months and would have been on the front line. The MOS you are contemplating is a combat support role.

Fred is absolutely correct when he said that joining the military for college money is not the correct reason. It is a good reason, but if that is your only motivation then you will be miserable.

It has been stated, but I will reiterate, a soldier is a soldier and if you join the Army, you may have to fight even if you are not in a combat arms unit. And if you do have to fight in a combat support role, well, then the balloon has gone up and you are probably in the sh*t. Don't let that scare you away, because it is probably unlikely, but still possible.

Do you have it in you to kill a man if you had to?

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

well another main reason of me wanting to join is because of boot camp, i want to go thru boot camp, i LOVE physical training. Kill a man? hm...if i have to, probably. If it's down to him that live or I that live, i'll pick the I.

Post by **1991240xs** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

I am currently in the DEP for the marines. I ship to Paris Island for boot camp in July(no 240 for 13 weeks

. Everyone is right in saying that joining for money for college is not a reason to join, especially now when people are getting shipped out to Kuwait left and right. I chose the marines over the army mostly because it's in my family and I like the physical challenge. I'm not going into infantry, however I am in a combat support role, so after my MOS school I could be shipped out, to tell you the truth, I'm not afraid of it. I always respected people that went to war for their country, it's the ultimate sacrifice. I disagree on the marines promotions hard to come by, hell, I've already technically been promoted. If you do the delayed entry program, you get in two recruits, then they promote you to private first class(E-2). Get a third recruit in and you get your dress blues for free(they aren't cheap). Army is for the average person, you have to almost enjoy the physical challenge to want to do the marines as we have training every saturday morning no matter what the weather, and run a mile and a half in about 9:30(you only have to run it in 13:00 for boot camp...but they're making the best, not average). If I graduate honor grad from boot camp, or the drill seargents really like me, then I could be merritoriously promoted to E-3...it's a possibility. Your situation, it sounds like you really shouldn't do army unless you're ready to get shipped out, if you really want to stay for college, stay as far away from the recruiting office as possible, don't fall for the signup bonus...it's not so great...Man..this is a really long paragraph. Good Luck in whatever you choose, if you have any questions, each branch has a good frequently asked questions page on their website, and don't ask someone who's in a branch which branch is the best, they will tell you it's theirs...I think mine is the best...but it's just because i'm loyal...every branch has it's perks. If you did want to sacrifice four years of your life for the marines..you get the G.I. Bill and marine college scholarship which pretty much leaves nothing for you to pay..nice deal..and you'll have a lot in savings from your four years of active service. What other job can you work for 20 years and retire at age 38 with pension for life?

Post by **big jon's 240** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:10 pm

Just like everything else in life, the army has its ups and downs. Some of the best memories i have are of the times i spent in the army. Sure it sucks living in a tent for a month at a time, but you will meet great people, get to see cool places, and some crappy ones too. And you have the opportunity to learn a skill that can get you a job when you get out. I got out a year ago, after 4 years, and i make more than guys i went to HS with, who have 4 year degrees from major universities, entirely based on what i learned in the army.You also get the satisfaction of serving your country.Overall, i HIGHLY recommend it.

just had an interview with an army recruiter

just had an interview with an army recruiter

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