just curious about oil pans

[dj_lennon_franz]

ive decided to get rid of my beat *** sileighty and buy another hatch...basically starting over...and im really leaning twords buying a CA at the moment for it (i have a SR in my sileighty)...im just wondering about oil pans for the CA...i know the stock SR oil pan blows ***...im sure the CAs isnt a whole lot different...so yah...is the CA the same as the SRs??? or am i gonna have to really dig for an upgraded one??

PS: what about fuel rails and intake manifolds as well???

[Pumaking]

lol please dont be confused, CA and SR are totally different. The CA wasnt designed with cut corners. There isnt any aftermarket Oil pans that I know of unless its custom, since there's no aftermarket pans I guess there was no need for one

[dj_lennon_franz]

not to sound like a d!ck here bro...but the CA isnt perfect...and neithers the SR...ive been tuning SRs for the last 3 years and they have their fair shares of annoyances...and i know for a fact since ive done 2 CA swaps myself that the CA is just as inferior in as many ways

BUT im not here to argue since im prolly buying one very soon ne way

anyone else know if theres an upgraded pan, intake mani and fuel rail??

[float_6969]

No oil on the oilpan. AFAIK, nobody's ever had a problem with it and so hasn't messed with it. If you're DEAD SET on an oil pan, you'll have to have one made custom.

There is a guy on here who is with/owns a companay called CPC, Custom Plenum Creations. He's got one for the CA. It's not a Greddy style unit, so don't expect something cast.

Nada on the Fuel Rail too. You'd have to have something custom made. Once again, unless you're looking for megga crazy horsepower, which you might be, you're not gonna find one. The CA is lacking in the aftermarket support area. Most of that kind of thing will have to be made custom.

[redamnavit]

Take your pan, slice off the block mating surface and weld a new pan using that. Not a lot of point to this unless you're somehow dead set on more capacity for some reason. The CA pan is strong enough that its a ***** to knock dents out of, let alone put them in.

[sideways danny]

I'll be welding in some extensions on the side of my sump to increase my oil capacity to as near 5L as possible. I think this will help with oil temperature and oil supply which IMO is the biggest downfall of the CA

[dj_lennon_franz]

i just found out last nite that indeed there are oil pans and fuel rails and inake manifolds made for the CA...infact theyre made by your normal bunch of aftermarket people...Trust has a oil pan...HKS has a fuel rail...and Trust also makes an intake manifold for the CA over in dear ol Nihon...guess ill be huntin round japan soon

[biosehnsucht]

heheh

CA oil pans are better jacking points than the subframe..

they flex less

unless you want extra capacity, its not really going to be an issue. and you can always do like sideways danny

so you think the CA is inferior in some ways, feel free to name them.

timing belt vs timing chain, so much easier to deal with

most spare/replacement parts are domestically available

brute force oil pan

iron block!

direct acting hydralic lifters (none of that silly rocker arm one lobe actuating two valves BS), good for 8000+ rpm daily driving (altho to breathe up there and actually make power you'll need afermarket cams), and easily upgraded to solid lifters (Tomei makes kits)

easy injector and MAF upgrades and rom tuning thanks to top feed injectors (RX7 and DSM upgrades are usable) and simple ECU w/o need for daughterboards that can be retuned for many size injectors and other nissan MAFs easily

if you want to see what the CA is capable head over to SXOC.com and see what them crazies in Europe are up to.

now, what does the SR have over the CA? its more cheaply built? oops, sorry, thats in the CA's favor.. oh, it has almost 200cc's more displacement ! OH NO!! bigger stock, still crappy turbo? OH NO!!

[cortina-mk1]

as far as im aware trust do NOT make an oil pan for a CAHKS dont NOT make a fuel rail for a CATrust do NOT make a intake manifold for a CA

but i could be wrong... please a link or pics to these items would be great

[themadscientist]

as far as im aware trust do NOT make an oil pan for a CAHKS dont NOT make a fuel rail for a CATrust do NOT make a intake manifold for a CA

but i could be wrong... please a link or pics to these items would be great

What she said. I am in Japan and ain't seen none of that. The stock pan is fine, weld in some baffles if you want.The stock rail is fine, bigger injectors and adjustable regulator.intakes are all custom made by individuals or shops.

[dj_lennon_franz]

not to argue....but i believe him given he was born and raised there...he just moved to vegas 4 years ago...ive seen pictures of his old motor...huge T04e turbo...big purple fuel rail...trust style intake manifold (looked just like the one you get for an SR...there were no indications of it being custom made...even had a small rectangular trust sticker on it)...his motor dyno'd at 462.3ps (roughly 430hp i believe)

and to the guy above who seems to be butthurt by me saying the CA is inferior to the SR...i said BOTH motors are inferior in their own ways...i wasnt saying one was better than the other...ive been playing with nissans long enough to know both motors are totally different engines...and yes i know what they do with em in the UK...i know about norris designs...and i know what the CA is capable of if you build it right

[biosehnsucht]

go ahead and name the inferiorities, I want to see how many the CA has. go ahead. how big a list can you come up with? or can't you?

[Fenvy]

go ahead and name the inferiorities, I want to see how many the CA has. go ahead. how big a list can you come up with? or can't you?

why deviate from the thread? he didn't say SR is better nor CA is better. Nothing is perfect, I can't name inferiority on SR, CA, KA, RB but hey I am sure each said motor has its own advantage at certain aspect.

Please do not turn this into a ca vs sr thread. The author made it clear that he's not trying to argue about it twice already.

[Pumaking]

it also quite funny how he believes just because he's wrenched on a SR for 3years and installed 2 CA swaps that he pretty much knows everything about the motor.

Also I checked Trust parts list and sadly Trust doesnt make a Oil Pan for the CA, HKS doesnt make a fuel rail for the CA, and Trust doesnt make a intake manifold. Just because someone slaps a sticker doesnt mean its a product made by that company. Shoot if I slap a Autometer sticker on my car does that mean Autometer makes my car? Nope thats just wack.

Heres Trust Product list.

http://ooparts-international.c....html

[biosehnsucht]

I'm just being an *** because he acted like he knows so much about the CA having "as many" inferiorities as the SR does.. yet won't mention a single thing.

I'll admit the SR has better aftermarket support but mechanically speaking the SR was built to be cheap, and has many cut corners, as Pumaking stated early in the thread.

[themadscientist]

The questions have been answered, the thread is deviating and getting combative so let's close er down.