Hi,Ok here's the deal, I live in Canada, and I'm trying to buya 240sx (preferablly an S13 coupe w/ 5-spd)
I went and saw this stock, metallic beige 1992 240SX Coupe,with the following:
- 85K miles- Sunroof, spoiler, alloy wheels, fog lights- tan leather int., digital speedo, HUD, - power windows/doors/sunroof/mirrors- cruise control, tilt steering- AM/FM stereo cassette- 5-spd
The car is from a trade-in, and since the dealer acquired it,they're replaced the exhaust, brakes, and power windows.
This car is at a dealer for $7995CDN + tax ($5000US + tax).Since this is a dealer, tax is 15%, so this would bring the car up to $9200CDN ($5750US) if I were to buy it. Private saleI would only pay 7% tax. This is a government tax btw.
After talking with them, they managed to lower the price $500so now it's sitting at $7500+tax=$8625CDN ($5400US) for me,and they won't go any lower.
So here's my dilema. I was willing to take the car for $7500CDNafter tax ($4700US). From the other 240 owners I've talked with, it seems like I am paying TOO MUCH. However, this car is coming from a reputable dealer, and comes with a 30-daypower-train warranty, and comes fully certified/emission tested.
Now I could wait, hoping this car's price would drop further,or I can grab it now, because this car is SWEET, and is inexcellent condition (no rust, or any problems when I wentto see it). But $8500 is just a bit too much for me, butI have no other major expenses so I could probablly afford it.
What should I do? What should I do? I am paitent, but I am justdying for a car.
Bye!
Is this 240 too expensive?
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BuudWeizErr
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I think that the price that you are getting is just a tad too high still...
When I bought my 240...
1992 240sx SE
5 speedalmost perfect leather interior (one small tear, one small scuff)Super HICAS package with ABS and LSDnear flawless exterior (except for the spoiler)91k milesno problems with the engine at allnew emmissions/inspection
If I wanted a 90 day warranty, it would have been $5000 US, but I ended up getting it for $4200 US without the warranty.
Its a judgement call on wether you feel like this is the best deal that you are going to get. I do autocross and need to stay in the stock class, so it was important to me that I could find a car in excellent condition. If you plan on swapping the engine and doing lots of modifications, then you may be better off with a cheaper, higher milage car.
When I bought my 240...
1992 240sx SE
5 speedalmost perfect leather interior (one small tear, one small scuff)Super HICAS package with ABS and LSDnear flawless exterior (except for the spoiler)91k milesno problems with the engine at allnew emmissions/inspection
If I wanted a 90 day warranty, it would have been $5000 US, but I ended up getting it for $4200 US without the warranty.
Its a judgement call on wether you feel like this is the best deal that you are going to get. I do autocross and need to stay in the stock class, so it was important to me that I could find a car in excellent condition. If you plan on swapping the engine and doing lots of modifications, then you may be better off with a cheaper, higher milage car.
Hi,You have to remember this is Canada, and things aredifferent. I believe coupes are rare here, so thismaybe an issue :P
Anywho, I know it's a bit too much, but I haven't reallyfound any other car for any less. There is another,a 91 Coupe, with pretty much the exact same features,but I haven't gone and seen that. The 91 coupehas 91K miles and is asking $7450+tax ($4656US+tax),compared to the 92 coupe with 85K miels asking almostsame price.
I dunno what to do, I think I'm gonna wait it out and seewhere I go from here....if I get tired of waiting and the caris still around, I will try to bargain it some more and seeif I can walk away with it for $8500CDN after tax ($5300US).
The salesman said he had to talk to the sales manager andthen the general manager, and they still didn't want to golowr then $7500+tax (although he could be bull****tingand just wanting me to get the car)...
Bye!
Anywho, I know it's a bit too much, but I haven't reallyfound any other car for any less. There is another,a 91 Coupe, with pretty much the exact same features,but I haven't gone and seen that. The 91 coupehas 91K miles and is asking $7450+tax ($4656US+tax),compared to the 92 coupe with 85K miels asking almostsame price.
I dunno what to do, I think I'm gonna wait it out and seewhere I go from here....if I get tired of waiting and the caris still around, I will try to bargain it some more and seeif I can walk away with it for $8500CDN after tax ($5300US).
The salesman said he had to talk to the sales manager andthen the general manager, and they still didn't want to golowr then $7500+tax (although he could be bull****tingand just wanting me to get the car)...
Bye!
Dont do it man.
I know what you're feelin- I'm sorta in the same place. I've been looking for a 240 for so long now that it seems like I'm never gonna be able to find that exact car that I want. I've caught myself many times almost willing to take a lesser car, just so I could HAVE it, instead of waiting it out for the right one. $5000 (US) is just too much for ANY s13. I dont care what shape it's in, or if it's from a dealer or not. Maybe things in canada are different, but jeez-- if the price differences are that much I'd say screwit and buy the car here in the states. If they wont compromise with you on the price, then walk away. I know it's gonna be hard, but dont get hosed on a price just because you're blinded by how much you want the car- you'll be sorry.
I know what you're feelin- I'm sorta in the same place. I've been looking for a 240 for so long now that it seems like I'm never gonna be able to find that exact car that I want. I've caught myself many times almost willing to take a lesser car, just so I could HAVE it, instead of waiting it out for the right one. $5000 (US) is just too much for ANY s13. I dont care what shape it's in, or if it's from a dealer or not. Maybe things in canada are different, but jeez-- if the price differences are that much I'd say screwit and buy the car here in the states. If they wont compromise with you on the price, then walk away. I know it's gonna be hard, but dont get hosed on a price just because you're blinded by how much you want the car- you'll be sorry.
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fiznat wrote:Dont do it man.
$5000 (US) is just too much for ANY s13. I dont care what shape it's in, or if it's from a dealer or not.
Wow, Boston is ghetto. Up here in the Pacific Northwest, good condition s13s are going for $5-7k. I talked to my tuning garage, and they told me that I could sell mine for at least $7k (a '93 w/ 79k miles).
I was thinking of selling it, buying a non-running 240 and swapping in an sr20. The total would leave me with money left over to fix up the car. So, in effect, I could trade my slow, KA powered 240, for a fast, SR powered 240 that might not have as nice a body.
Giving it serious thought . . .
Nick.
uhh rokernero or whatever your name is..i would like to call you on that price of 95+ S14's there is no way in hell that in california dealer or private seller, you can recieve one at that price w/o the following terms .. Salvage title, parted out,or collision involvement (ie Crashed)or just have a hook up.4k is way to low.. i think the start out for base models for when i was looking for my S13 was 5900 with a little scratch here and there... But you of all poeple you should knoq that in such areas as San diego prices tend to climb higher than say Ontario or somthing like that.. so maybe you should check your figures once more before giving out false info.. not calling you a lier but such prices are very rare and even impossible to find.
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Where in the pacific northwest are you? I used to live very close to the oregon/california border and theres no way you could sell an s13 for 7 grand. I think your dreaming if you think you will get that. from what i see s13's sell between 1000-3500. If anyone wants an s13 coupe in socal i can give you the number for one, they are asking $1900,its a 93, 5 speed runs good, good body, few dings and rubbed off paint on bumper, clean interior, but a lot of miles
$4000 is a very realistic amount for a 95. I got my 95 base model, 5 speed a year ago in california for $2950. It took $500 in body work to fix a few dents in the quarter panel and paint half the car, then it looked brand new. No salvage title, no frame damage, or anything, perfect shape. So i got my 95 for about $3450 total all stock.
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Stock-13:
I live in the San Diego area, I check autotrader. I've seen s14's with a clean title and high miles for $3500. I was looking at a black '95 SE with a clean title for ~$4500 in LA a month ago. Realistically, an S14 can be had for $4-5k... that is my price range and that is what I am looking for. I wouldn't pay more that $6k for a '95, as that seems to be the general high limit. I have seen some dealers trying to sell '95s for $12k though. Needless to say they will never get my business.
I live in the San Diego area, I check autotrader. I've seen s14's with a clean title and high miles for $3500. I was looking at a black '95 SE with a clean title for ~$4500 in LA a month ago. Realistically, an S14 can be had for $4-5k... that is my price range and that is what I am looking for. I wouldn't pay more that $6k for a '95, as that seems to be the general high limit. I have seen some dealers trying to sell '95s for $12k though. Needless to say they will never get my business.
For those of you saying that you can get cheap S14s with high miles are probably right. But in my opinion, I'd take an S13 with 70k miles over an S14 with 140k miles... even if the S13 as a little more. Although I am just picky about mileage.
But, yeah... $5400 does seem a little too steep... $4700 sounds like it might be allright. People also ask rediculous prices for 240's around here, asking $4000 for a '90 Hatch with 170k miles.
I paid about $2200 (that includes tax/tags/county sticker) for mine with 101k on it. I just wish mine had less then 100 thousand miles on it.
But, yeah... $5400 does seem a little too steep... $4700 sounds like it might be allright. People also ask rediculous prices for 240's around here, asking $4000 for a '90 Hatch with 170k miles.
I paid about $2200 (that includes tax/tags/county sticker) for mine with 101k on it. I just wish mine had less then 100 thousand miles on it.
ok i guess i missed a comma there give me a second to go over my qoute "Salvage title, parted out,or collision involvement (ie Crashed)or just have a hook up.4k is way to low.. i think the start out for base models for when i was looking for my S13, (edit) i would see S14's for 5900 with a little scratch here and there... But you of all poeple you should know that....." now then i would like to see these Prices becuase, a clean title here In San Bern theres a 96 S14 selling for 6200 but Se in white.. havent checked it out my self not having the fumds and lack of intrest but i would just like to see these ads or prices before i withdraw my comments.also i see people throwing around figures of there price for there cars it took me about 4 months b/c i wanted a white one but i settled and got a Midnight blue one for 1600.
Edgar
Edgar
hell i have living proof of people wanting 5k+ for there S14's Bryan was selling his for 9k but its worth every penny, just remember its cost to have the best... and you don't want to cheap out when going for such a drastic investment such as a car purchase.. but like i said very rare or even impossible not canceling out but like i said before i need the proof..
Edgar
Edgar
Hi,Well, let me clear a few things up.
Car only had a single-owner; a lady who primarily usedthe car to get to her cottage and such.Dealer has records/bills on the car.
Price rounded off, and $1.60CDN = $1.00US:
Sticker price of car: $7995CDN ($5000US)My price after bargaining: $7495CDN ($4700US)Tax: 15%My price + tax: $7495CDN + $1124CDN = $8620CDN ($5400US)
As you can see, tax alone is *****ing me over. The costof the car before tax was well within my budget and I wasready to pay the $4700US for the car.
Canada sux! (<-- talking in frustration).
Bye!
Car only had a single-owner; a lady who primarily usedthe car to get to her cottage and such.Dealer has records/bills on the car.
Price rounded off, and $1.60CDN = $1.00US:
Sticker price of car: $7995CDN ($5000US)My price after bargaining: $7495CDN ($4700US)Tax: 15%My price + tax: $7495CDN + $1124CDN = $8620CDN ($5400US)
As you can see, tax alone is *****ing me over. The costof the car before tax was well within my budget and I wasready to pay the $4700US for the car.
Canada sux! (<-- talking in frustration).
Bye!
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hahahah boston? ghetto? yeeeeeaaaaa....Zebrahead wrote:Wow, Boston is ghetto. Up here in the Pacific Northwest, good condition s13s are going for $5-7k. I talked to my tuning garage, and they told me that I could sell mine for at least $7k (a '93 w/ 79k miles).
heh but really - $7k for a s13 is crazy. 79k miles IS pretty sweet, but not $7k sweet. seriously- check it out. the zip code in boston is 02215 - check it out on autotrader - your car is worth half of what your shop says here on the east coast.
damn man, if I could save almost 2 grand by buying a car farther away I'd really have to consider it.