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Hussain wrote:josh i have a question for you. CVT can be put on a dyno but people say its not dyno'able because it wont give accurate HP numbers.... what about the other advantages of putting a car on a dyno? if you put a CVT car on a dyno will you still be able to adjust the fuel to air ratio and tune it to work better with your aftermaket parts and new maps and all that good stuff? ior is CVT on a dyno a huge fail and does nothing but waste money?
Actually that's an excellent question, and one more suited to a technically savvy tuner.. which isn't me.

The dyno does work with the CVT, it accurately measures the amount of horsepower being transmitted through the driveline, but with an additional factor that takes consideration that isn't normally present with previous transmission technologies in automatic transmissions, being that the trans itself is variable, so a 1:1 configuration isn't possible, and can vary by conditions.

So the trouble really lies with back to back evaluations of power gains, and quoting that specific number that is the actual gain, eliminating the CVT factor into said numbers.

This, however, would not change air/fuel ratios, and the internal diagnostic abilities present with modern day tuners in regards to the actual ECU, which is the point of tuning.

So yes, if a tuner is accurately modifying everything, including fuel maps, etc., it would be increasing horsepower (or fuel mileage, depending on the goal), and all of the additional features you've read about, even with the CVT, the problem comes down to quantifying that, and without an engine dyno, or anything beyond a variable transmission, becomes the problem with the "prove it to me" issue with the CVT..

In regards to the CVT function, it's controlled by it's own ECU functions, and I haven't heard of Bully Dog or others tapping that specifically to involve any tuning or power gains..


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ok im kinda retarded when it comes to stuff like this so can someone explain to me if i get this for my 2.5 cvt will it make it faster and/or better mileage or more? someone explain in english for the slower peeps like me lol

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coderedk wrote:ok im kinda retarded when it comes to stuff like this so can someone explain to me if i get this for my 2.5 cvt will it make it faster and/or better mileage or more? someone explain in english for the slower peeps like me lol
No.

RTFM plz in this case, the pdf

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mcheddadi wrote:No.

RTFM plz in this case, the pdf
I'd be with you 10,000% if the PDF spoke to him, the 2.5L Altima owner.. and different if it was the subject of an intake, exhaust or other typical bolt on..

You're forging new ground on the tuner market.. maybe a little slack? I think we all (including us here at STILLEN) are anxious to see the results?

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Josh@Stillen wrote:
I'd be with you 10,000% if the PDF spoke to him, the 2.5L Altima owner.. and different if it was the subject of an intake, exhaust or other typical bolt on..

You're forging new ground on the tuner market.. maybe a little slack? I think we all (including us here at STILLEN) are anxious to see the results?
lol, it's 2am here and I'm not thinking straight lol, didn't want to seem harsh.

we should get some more info monday when people go back to work and respond to the emails I sent them

I plan on getting one and doing some dyno runs so we will see

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mcheddadi wrote:
lol, it's 2am here and I'm not thinking straight lol, didn't want to seem harsh.

we should get some more info monday when people go back to work and respond to the emails I sent them

I plan on getting one and doing some dyno runs so we will see
lol.. we're cool Mehdi.. not every company can be active 7 days a week..

When the hell are you getting out to southern california to come see us? We could set up a hell of a meet!

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Josh@Stillen wrote:
lol.. we're cool Mehdi.. not every company can be active 7 days a week..

When the hell are you getting out to southern california to come see us? We could set up a hell of a meet!
I definitely need to do a cross country this summer. If there's a big Stillen or Nico event in SoCal I'll definitly try to get there

BTW sent you an email

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mcheddadi wrote:
I definitely need to do a cross country this summer. If there's a big Stillen or Nico event in SoCal I'll definitly try to get there

BTW sent you an email
What a 1,000 Nissan's in one place isn't enough? You have some wicked standards sir!

2008 event.. http://www.stillen.com/news.asp?id=86

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and we've done it again.. my apologies to all for the tangent on the original thread.. LOL..

back to the subject!

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That's a pretty big unit...where would you mount it?

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dangeris wrote:That's a pretty big unit...where would you mount it?
Isn't that what she said?Yeah I know sorry I couldn't resist

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im down for this!!!

35horses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i use 93 octane...

o man...

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nismogxs21 wrote:im down for this!!!

35horses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i use 93 octane...

o man...
yeah, UP to 35hp but thats from the 2007 nissan Titan they dynoed with the 5.6L V8 engine.

on our VQ I think there is still some gains to be had. look at the 09 maxima, It does 20HP more than us with the same VQ engine. and remember the Megane coupe Trophy that does a whooping 360HP from the same VQ as us. I don't think we'll be seeing a 90hp increase but that just proves that the motor is VERY capable and has lots of potential to be unlocked

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So... When's this happening? I'm really psyched. I'm buying it even without the beefed up gains and the lady at JEGS just cancelled my orders! Some I'm down for the group buy! RAWR!!!!!!!!

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Im actually in it more for the rev, speed, and WOT limiters and tire size calibration. I honestly dont see much of a gain on a 2.5 but then again im not familiar with ECU's. Im sure there is some gain with the 91 octane tuning but probably no where near 35hp

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Like most people here, I'm definitely interested in this and would buy if we could get some numbers relative to our Coupes. I'd also like to see how this would work with other mods (intake, exhaust, etc). I wonder if it could take them into account, and if the tune would be an addition to the other extra HP, or if the mods would act as a multiplier to the tune and provide even greater gains.

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Ok , Mike from Bullydog just confirmed to me that it works with CVT."-The tuning has been verified on CVT equipped vehicles."

I didn't get any other additional info. Also and I'm still waiting to hear from some the retailers I contacted for the GB.

if anyone has any question THAT ISN'T ANSWERED IN THE PDF OR THIS THREAD please send him a email WITH your question WITH a link to THIS thread.

Here's his contact info

Mike [email protected] Dog TechnologiesMarketing Manager(877)285-5936 X-1413 Phone(208)226-2511 Fax

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Yeah I too am quite skepticle, can;t anyone do the test thing...and the calibrate speedo thing kinda bugs me too. I was told there was absolutely no way a OBDII could do that for my Titan when I threw the 35" on...and the same for my Z but that was a few years ago...just seems to good to be true

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Okay..just trying to catch up here? They have a model for the 2007 Altimas already correct but this is their newer upgraded one?

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also...isn't it true that if you switch between gas saving and racing tunes too many times, the system locks you out? In order to prevent sharing the tuner with others? At least that's what my mustang friends say?

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BUMP for updates.

Call me a doubting thomas on this.. The bullydog was found to have no backing or dyno charts at all. Folks called them and put them on the spot only to get shady canned responses with no knowledge of the product and how it can work on our application.


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I don't know man, but just for the rev limiter delete, wot limiter delete, governor delete, and speedo calibration depending on tire size I want it. the tunner for me is icing on the cake.

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cool,

we'll just call you the guinea pig...

Hurry up and get that car back together for the lsd review...lol


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Is there still a GB going on for this?

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interest thread.

GB only if vendor becomes a nico sponsors or if we do this outside nico.

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im in for a group buy

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A must have of course.Should clear up this topic but there is not a 35whp increase for us 2.5ers I could be wrong...But I'm not.

edit:Someone tell me I'm wrong already!
Modified by Nlghtmare at 9:10 AM 6/1/2009

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bump for group buy.....

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the 2.5 will still see big gains but obviously not as much as the 3.5 still its probably gonna be atleast around 20+ hp and you get to adjust all the limiters , tire size, octance ect... so i think thats enough to warrant buying this, im definetly up for a group buy or else im just gonna buy it

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DaCoupe wrote:the 2.5 will still see big gains but obviously not as much as the 3.5 still its probably gonna be atleast around 20+ hp
I don't know why but 20hp seems a little too optimistic lol


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