Thanks for the input

VStar650CL wrote: ↑

Mon May 10, 2021 9:45 am

K&N's are a bad idea anyway, for any engine:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 7316301475

There's pseudo-science and actual science, I prefer the latter.

Excellent! Thanks. I haven't installed a K&N on my Vulcan S (after having one on my ZX6R) and will avoid it now .

I never had any issues with K&N. I installed it on my 370z 12 years ago and no maf issues.

I purchased one from a member and he never had an issue either. I think over oil is what causes issuse. I will make sure mine is not.
Thx

Yeah it seems some have issues and others do not. I’ve been using them on all my nissans/infinitis for 20+ years without issue.

I don’t like the design of my current ones in my Q70 3.7 but that’s due to they can sag and let bug sings/small leaves by the filter. But that’s due to the design of the filter from Infiniti, should just be a flat panel.

I got bought the ones at look like oem and fit in the factory airbox. Still searching for the HPS tubes, trying to avoid paying $200.

When an engine blows at 120K instead of 220K, or 220K instead of 320K, I guarantee you no one blames their air filter. I also guarantee you it happens to somebody every day. Having no obvious "issues" completely begs the point.

Agreed

HPFP took out my 5.6L at 110k miles definitely wasn’t air filter.

biggie wrote: ↑

Tue May 11, 2021 8:48 am

HPFP took out my 5.6L at 110k miles definitely wasn’t air filter.

Last time I looked, I didn't say it was the only cause for a dead engine. That's ridiculous.

Dead engine is caused by so many factors.

Thinking of adding this along with HPS tubes and K&N. Anyone running this setup? Don't want car much louder than the stock. Possible tune in the future to maximize performance. Input will be appreciated. Ik M56 is a 2" figured muffler shop and make it work.

https://www.aceraceparts.com/products/b ... 3160419391

Pakitullanc wrote: ↑

Tue May 11, 2021 7:08 am

I purchased one from a member and he never had an issue either. I think over oil is what causes issuse. I will make sure mine is not.
Thx

Guess I and a bunch of others on the 4th Maxima forum (Maxima.org) got unlucky because it was brand new filters, oiled from the factory, that did us in. I haven't used one since and tell everyone and their mother not too.

Can I get any input on this. Thank you

Pakitullanc wrote: ↑

Tue May 11, 2021 1:37 pm

Thinking of adding this along with HPS tubes and K&N. Anyone running this setup? Don't want car much louder than the stock. Possible tune in the future to maximize performance. Input will be appreciated. Ik M56 is a 2" figured muffler shop and make it work.

https://www.aceraceparts.com/products/b ... 3160419391

Filter + Tubes will not make your car louder unless you are at WOT. Exhaust is what will change your cars loudness characteristics at all levels.

Ilya wrote: ↑

Thu May 13, 2021 8:05 pm

Filter + Tubes will not make your car louder unless you are at WOT. Exhaust is what will change your cars loudness characteristics at all levels.

So do you think high flow resonater is a good addition? I am ok if the loudness changes at WOT.

I can't speak to hi-flow exhaust components as my exhaust is stock and now probably features some leaks attributed to NY rust...but it sounds great lol.

Haha

My daughter wants to watch Hamilton on Broadway. So maybe up their in Jan. Maybe drive up the M and stay with my niece who lives in Manhattan.

armybrat wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:37 am

AEM makes good products. I am running their Dryflow air filters in stock airboxes which I modified by drilling a series of holes to help draw in fresh air, sort of like a Venturi effect.

Old subject, but i disagree. The panels are too thick. Broke one lid. $125 fir new one. Contacted AEM and they said there was a tolerance issue in the mold and sent me 2 new ones. They are older than my originals.

Working on catch cans today and my other half of both air cleaner box are both broken and warped. So warped that there is a gap. That part is over $200 each. Not shared with the m37, so used parts are rare.
Some review on amazon said he trimmed it. It fits better but the damage is done.

I know it's not the best for HP, but i am just going to buy a HPS CAI kit. Cheaper and doesnt utilizes the OEM air cleaner.

misfit77 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:35 pm

armybrat wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:37 am

AEM makes good products. I am running their Dryflow air filters in stock airboxes which I modified by drilling a series of holes to help draw in fresh air, sort of like a Venturi effect.

Old subject, but i disagree. The panels are too thick. Broke one lid. $125 fir new one. Contacted AEM and they said there was a tolerance issue in the mold and sent me 2 new ones. They are older than my originals.

Working on catch cans today and my other half of both air cleaner box are both broken and warped. So warped that there is a gap. That part is over $200 each. Not shared with the m37, so used parts are rare.
Some review on amazon said he trimmed it. It fits better but the damage is done.

I know it's not the best for HP, but i am just going to buy a HPS CAI kit. Cheaper and doesnt utilizes the OEM air cleaner.

I think they could have designed the shield a lot better and used silicone tubes instead. That's just me thinking the traditional CAI vs the hot air shortram intakes. Post some pictures of the install and the butt dyno results. The larger 3.25" tubes should help with more air flow and power even if it's actually a hot air intake.

Since we are talking about HPS.....I ordered from Redline360, but no confirmation if its going to ship.

Anyway, I was reading the install instructions https://support.hpsperformanceproducts. ... 27-688.pdf. There is something called a MAF sleeve, see step 19. Seems like all it does is reduce the inner diameter. Is HPS modifying the signal at the MAF by increasing the air speed?

no idea. maybe it's acting like a heat insulator for the MAF from the metal tube . I was wondering what that was when i glance through the instructions yesterday.

My Short Ram Intake should be here Monday.

I will report back.

HPS wrote back.

Not explanation on the MAF tube, just without it youll get a check engine light. My guess is the tubes are bigger than stock and tube acts as a reducer.

I say try it without that piece and see if you get a cel.

misfit77 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:35 pm

armybrat wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:37 am

AEM makes good products. I am running their Dryflow air filters in stock airboxes which I modified by drilling a series of holes to help draw in fresh air, sort of like a Venturi effect.

Old subject, but i disagree. The panels are too thick. Broke one lid. $125 fir new one. Contacted AEM and they said there was a tolerance issue in the mold and sent me 2 new ones. They are older than my originals.

Working on catch cans today and my other half of both air cleaner box are both broken and warped. So warped that there is a gap. That part is over $200 each. Not shared with the m37, so used parts are rare.
Some review on amazon said he trimmed it. It fits better but the damage is done.

I know it's not the best for HP, but i am just going to buy a HPS CAI kit. Cheaper and doesnt utilizes the OEM air cleaner.

You probably bought the wrong one. There's actually two different part numbers for the M56 on the AEM website. #28-50099 and #28-20409. They show the profile pics of the foam seal. The 1st part number should be the lower profile one. That one will fit with no issues. I'm not sure why they have two different ones.

Yoda's Master wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:27 am

misfit77 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:35 pm

Old subject, but i disagree. The panels are too thick. Broke one lid. $125 fir new one. Contacted AEM and they said there was a tolerance issue in the mold and sent me 2 new ones. They are older than my originals.

Working on catch cans today and my other half of both air cleaner box are both broken and warped. So warped that there is a gap. That part is over $200 each. Not shared with the m37, so used parts are rare.
Some review on amazon said he trimmed it. It fits better but the damage is done.

I know it's not the best for HP, but i am just going to buy a HPS CAI kit. Cheaper and doesnt utilizes the OEM air cleaner.

I think they could have designed the shield a lot better and used silicone tubes instead. That's just me thinking the traditional CAI vs the hot air shortram intakes. Post some pictures of the install and the butt dyno results. The larger 3.25" tubes should help with more air flow and power even if it's actually a hot air intake.

Kit installed. First I would say its Cold Air. The heat shields line up with the air scoop.
Second, install went crappy. Had to punch holes in a shield to make room for AC lines. Shields and tubes are not fully secured. I spent a lot of time adjusting....etc etc.
I recorded video and plan on posting on youtube.

Anyway butt dyno results. Keep in mind temps here are in the 50s and UpRev Tuned.
Most horsepower on top of list.
1. HPS Cold Air Intake
2. Drop in panel filter without the air scoop and homebrew Intake Hose Kit
3. Drop in panel filter with air scoop installed and homebrew Intake Host Kit
4. Stock intake and drop in panel filter
5. All stock- not tune.

post some pictures

I had to make bigger holes in the heat shield and made some brackets.

I didn't take any pics, just video. I am too lazy to run to the garage.

Here is a screen capture.