How to install HID's through the wheel well. (DIY w/pics)

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Nice writeup, thanks!


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do you have a pic of the light pattern across a garage door or any other flat vertical surface. Just want to see if there is any glare when using the stock headlight assembly with hids.

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Is this a 2007 exclusive kit or did you buy per a recommendation?? Are all the kits the same??

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240Armadillo wrote:Is this a 2007 exclusive kit or did you buy per a recommendation?? Are all the kits the same??

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Most HID kits are universal. The 07-08 Altima's require an H11 bulb set-up. Whatever vehicle you're installing them on, just make sure your bulbs are correct and you're good to go.
ohjay wrote:do you have a pic of the light pattern across a garage door or any other flat vertical surface. Just want to see if there is any glare when using the stock headlight assembly with hids.

thanks.
When I have time this weekend--probably Sunday--I'll try to get pics up. There is no glare. They look factory, trust me on this. That's the reason I went with 5000K, because I wanted my lights to look as factory as possible. I think it's been accomplished. I'll never have to worry about getting hassled.

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rjdmmfl1 wrote:I feel ya, I never had one, until I started doing almost all of my own installs...I've literally saved multiple thousands of dollars over the years by doing my own installs...
When you think about it, just changing the oil at the dealership costs about $40 when all the materials needed, costs less than $20. After 2-3 oil changes, you paid for the jack and jack stands. Then you have to figure the installation costs of an exhaust/headers/HID's and you're looking some $$$.

When I first bought this car, I was just going to pay someone to install my sub amp and speakers for the first time, because I was just tired and didn't have the time. That was until I found out that they wanted $350 for installation!! So I ended up doing it myself and saved enough money for an intake and a few good meals

For me, these "laborious" things are fun! I enjoy do-it-yourself projects, and saving money is just an added bonus.


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I agree. I also enjoy DIY projects, but with school, work, and other stuff, I just don't seem to have the time. I also don't have a very large garage and not much space to work with. I have a reliable mechanic that does oil changes and inspects everything as need for $25 (including oil and filter).

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That's actually a really good deal you got going on with your mechanic for $25. I spend $14 for 5 quarts of Castrol and $7 for the filter. I could go the cheap route with Mobil 1 for $10 and a Fram for $4, but I've only used Castrol and I'll stick with the OEM filters.

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generic808 wrote:
The way the harness connected to the factory harness was backwards--heard this was a common theme with aftermarket kits--so I just cut them off and rewired. Because of the clips on the harness, it didn't allow me to just reverse them. All is good to go now. I don't know if all are wired this way, or I just got a dud. But like I said above, the kit is of good quality and if I had to buy again, I definitely would go the same route.
generic808, could you show us about the rewiring the harness process? My X-light wouldn't fire up the first time, and after toying around with the wire (reversing the connector...), it still acts dead . Thanks for the great tutorial, generic808

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generic808, could you show us about the rewiring the harness process? My X-light wouldn't fire up the first time, and after toying around with the wire (reversing the connector...), it still acts dead . Thanks for the great tutorial, generic808
On the harness, there are two different sized clips on each side. On my set, the clips prevented the plug to fully insert into the factory harness. I cut the wire about 2 inches before the harness and reversed the wires, soldered them in reverse, and voila!

I know you can probably wedge the wire out from the harness somehow. I was too lazy and didn't want to chance it breaking. There are these white cylinder type holders holding the wires into the x-light plug. If you can somehow manage to pull them out, which didn't seem too hard, you could just plug them back in reverse.

Another option I thought about was just grinding the little wedge pieces on the x-light harness so they can insert all the way into the harness. Does this even make sense? I'm trying to describe it as best I can, but I don't know if you can picture what I'm talking about.


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BTW Welcome to NICO! If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. I'll try to help you in anyway I can. If it means taking my car apart to show you, I'll get around to it when I have time. Just let me know.

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Eric,one thing.. on the Xentek HID kit i put in my wife's Sedan, that white cylinder thingies that the power and negative wires got to on the plug came disconnected. This allowed me to plug them in the correct way before the install.. afterwards, I taped everything together with electrical tape to ensure a strong connection...

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I almost did the same thing, but I decided on soldering it so I wouldn't have to worry about it falling apart. Of course, the chances of it falling off after splicing and taping are pretty slim, but I didn't want to take that chance.

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Thanks generic, I just got my AC 2.5 two weeks ago after considering the Mazda 6, AC, and (please don't laugh) Mini Cooper S. It's a no brainer that the AC is the way to go. About the harness deal, from what you've described, the Xlight HID should light up if I reverse the end that connect to the factory harness without rewiring, right? I did that last night and it still didn't light up. I was worrying that I might have a defected set. Neither that or I might have hook up the wire a little differently. In your tutorial, you mention "Connect harness to new bulb," and "Now connect bulbs to ballasts," but the new bulb is already connect to the ballast, so I just connect the harness to the ballast at one end and to the factory harness at the other end. So please tell me I'm mechanically inclined and that's the reason why it didn't work cuz I've connected the wired wrong!

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Wrigler, if you check earlier in the post, I think Eric stated that just reversing the plug will not work, apparently you don't get full contact that way... that's why Eric cut, rewired and soldered it... that way it'll plug in the original way, and the wires are in the correct orientation. Does that sound right Eric?

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Thank you soooooooo much it is because of your how to do guides that i am not scared to take appart my car. you got major respect with me:buttrock

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skiski329 wrote:Thank you soooooooo much it is because of your how to do guides that i am not scared to take appart my car. you got major respect with me:buttrock
We have some good folks around here!

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Hopefully this is what you meant earlier. I cut the end that connects to the factory harness and reverse the wire so that it's red-to-black and black-to-red. It is tape up and pretty sturdy now, but I'll ask my friend to solder it tomorrow. Don't want any chances of the lights going off in the middle of the freeway doing 100mhp.




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rjdmmfl1 wrote:Shift, you can go to autozone or discount auto parts, or Kragen, or Wal-Mart for that matter and get a 2-ton car jack lift system for about 50.00! I think these are a must have for any car enthusiast!
BAD DEAL i got a 2 ton jack and 2 2ton stand from NAPPA for $35.00.

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On the male end of the harness, did you remove the yellow squishy thing? I noticed that the harness will not make full contact with the squishy thing in place. That has to come off first. If it doesn't work, you could always cut the clips on the female OEM harness; the one that the male hooks over which prevents the harness from pushing all the way in. Does this make sense?

I have pics in my cam I think. I'll get it from my car and try to post them tonight. Maybe pics will better help describe what I'm saying.

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wrigler31 wrote:Hopefully this is what you meant earlier. I cut the end that connects to the factory harness and reverse the wire so that it's red-to-black and black-to-red. It is tape up and pretty sturdy now, but I'll ask my friend to solder it tomorrow. Don't want any chances of the lights going off in the middle of the freeway doing 100mhp.



Modified by wrigler31 at 7:10 PM 12/6/2007
Did you try firing it up this way? It should work. The only reason I see it not working is if you're not making contact on both ends.

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Sorry, these were the only pics of the wires I had in my cam. If you haven't heard, we just had a storm here yesterday so it's craziness everywhere. The rain has been nonstop for quite some time now. When it clears up, I'll go back in my wells and show you everything, if you haven't figured it out by then.

This is the yellow squishy thing that has to be removed for proper fitment

This is the clip which actually has to lift and go over the larger clip on the female side of the harness. It looks like it won't fit, but trust me, it will. You have to actually kind of pry at it and pull it up to fit it over the larger bump on the female end, not the smaller one.

I hope these pics helped you get an idea.


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I am utterly confused!!! It still doesn't work!!! OK, I have a pic of the Xlight harness with the male end on the left and the female end on right.

The male end connect to the Ballast with the clip facing the outside as such, right?

And the female end connects to the factory harness (that used to connect to the factory halogen).From what I understand, it's the female end that doesn't make the proper contact with the factory harness, so you cut that end and reconnect the wire red-to-black the black-to-red? This would reverse the orientation of the female clip and help it fit properly with the factory harness. I did just that and the Xlight still woudn't fire up!!! argh... I'm sorry I don't get what you meant in your last post. Man, this is harder than I thought.

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Is ^ that clip preventing the full engagement of the harness? I noticed that the clip gets in the way, and at first glance, it seems that the harness is hooked up properly, but it's not. What I want you to try is actually connecting the harness to ballast the opposite of what you "think" is right (I thought the same too). It seems like it won't fit, but I think this clip is the reason for your hardship. Hook everything up as per normal and take this clip it and pull it over the little retainer clip on the opposite end and see if it fits.


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Is this what you mean? With the clip now facing the inside?

It seems to fit fine. I've done that earlier when I was toying around with the wire, but the Xlight still didn't work. So it's this end (the harness connecting to the ballast) that give us problem, not the other end??? Thanks generic for keeping up with this frustration!

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Yes, that is what I was talking about. It still doesn't fire up? Ok, we'll try to diagnose this from the very beginning. Not to make you sound stupid, I'm just trying to help. Did you reconnect the battery when you test fired? I know it may sound funny, but I forgot to do that once when I was trying to figure it out. I felt stupid

Is the plugs located inside the harness lined up correctly? I noticed that one of mine went a little crooked so I straightened it out with with a flat-head. They have to be lined up exactly right to plug in correctly and make contact.

Did you happen to blow a fuse? Is all your factory lights working fine?

Since you reveresed the wiring, have you tried plugging in the harness in reverse and vice versa? Did you try the original wiring set-up and reversing the harness. This is where I got a little confused at first because of the misleading retaining clip on the female side of the ballast.

Let's start from those simple things. Sometimes we get so caught up in what we're doing that we miss the simple little things. I know I do on ocassion. I was frustrated at first, but all worked out fine. I'm sure your X-Light isn't a dud, it's just something with the wiring. We'll eventually figure it out.

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I only worked on the driver side, and the battery was connected to test the lights. Upon turning on the switch, only the passenger side halogen light worked while the Xlight played dead. I think the fuse is fine since my car is running with the factory lights on both side (for now, I really like to see how the HID would look if I could somehow make them work) "Since you reveresed the wiring, have you tried plugging in the harness in reverse and vice versa? Did you try the original wiring set-up and reversing the harness. This is where I got a little confused at first because of the misleading retaining clip on the female side of the ballast." -->> I tried all four possible combination of reversing the connectors on both end, but no such luck. I'll take the HID to my friend's place tomorrow. He knows more about car than I do. Just hope I didn't get a defected set because the guy who sold it on Ebay is no longer a registered Ebayer.

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wrigler31 wrote:I only worked on the driver side, and the battery was connected to test the lights. Upon turning on the switch, only the passenger side halogen light worked while the Xlight played dead. I think the fuse is fine since my car is running with the factory lights on both side (for now, I really like to see how the HID would look if I could somehow make them work) "Since you reveresed the wiring, have you tried plugging in the harness in reverse and vice versa? Did you try the original wiring set-up and reversing the harness. This is where I got a little confused at first because of the misleading retaining clip on the female side of the ballast." -->> I tried all four possible combination of reversing the connectors on both end, but no such luck. I'll take the HID to my friend's place tomorrow. He knows more about car than I do. Just hope I didn't get a defected set because the guy who sold it on Ebay is no longer a registered Ebayer.
Wrigler, you may ( or may not) have gotten a defective set! In any case, I think this is too much work for an HID kit. If you decide to get another kit, don't go with the X light again. In a true plug and play system, you shouldn't have to cut, rewire, solder any wires! The Xentek HID kit works great!

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The guy had very good feedback on a very high volume of sales. 99.8% I believe it was, and the feedback left was all positive. I doubt the guy would sell a defective set purposely, but who knows.

You tried all possible connection routes? If so, I really don't know what it could be. Mine were just reveresed and once I flipped it around, it fired up. I had the same problem with only the factory side lighting up, but it all worked out in the end. Hopefully your friend can help you out. If I was in your neighborhood, I would drop by; unfortunately, I'm an ocean away

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Thanks guys, I'll keep yah posted with the whole ordeal. If it turned out that I got the Xlight set from hell, I'll try the Xentek HID next. Although the Pacific Ocean separates us geographically, our enthusiasm in fine automotive is what bond us. I've heard the 2050 AC model is amphibious, so by then generic you could drive your AC here and feel the southern hospitality

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awesome play by play on the installation generic. I'd suggest removing the wheels too just for the fact that my forearms got all scratched up while installing HIDs in my fogs.

I got the XLights kit as well, and they perform above and beyond for such a "cheap" priced kit.


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