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yeah man you're either gonna have to find a creative way to mount your wastegate actuator or a really creative way to modify your compressor outlet pipe cause there's no way in hell you can run a hot pipe with the compressor outlet in that position.


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yes he will but if dose it an it works i think it will be kool an one of a kind

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my honest opinion, get a bottom mount. theyre stupid cheap too and will make i/c plumbing the same as an sr kit. no craziness and b.s. to deal with. im lazy, i like craziness free sh*t lol

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same here lol but to each his own is what i have always thought lol but it would b easyer

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if he is close I will trade him a t2 bottom mount mani....
DUVAL

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I figured out all the piping i notched out waste bracket easy enough clears outlet now.

One more question i was callin round seaching for my last few parts. My buddy tells me i cant run dohc maf with fmu....need sohc???

Im thinking that it wont matter it doesnt know difference. I guess ill find out he does have an safc so ill be getting that next.

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I must say this is going to be the most "what the faqk" ka-t project. theres so many easier ways of doing it but to each his own I guess, i cant hate or judge. I remember walking 240man91 thru his ka-t project, I tried to simplify everything as best as I could for him. I like the suby i/c tho, thats actually pretty neat. just order a bov with the suby flange for direct bolt. dont do like ive seen some rb and dsm guys do by taking a hammer and crushing in on the top of the bypass valve to increase cracking pressure. my friend wes did it on his rb20 and it wouldnt open unless he made full boost and then it only purged for a split second. if he made 9psi it cracked but if he made 8 or less it just surged.

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I can't wait to see what your charge piping looks like...

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thats what i have been thinkn about this bulid s13drifter an thanks for all your help on mine it runs great still 10psi right now i am buliding a new motor whith all new parts with a blanced crank an rod an piston. an new vavles an pistons an rings will b all net top to bottom then going with aa gt2871r lookn for 15 to 18 psi out of it an dont know what injectors i want yet maby some 550s idk yet

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Got everything in but a bunch of heatshield stuff... hopin to get it done this weekend ill def. throw up pics!

What about the MAF guys figured id ask before i fire it up tomarrow.

Any i deas for diy round town couplers besides lowes plumbing and radiator hoses....

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I was thinking duct tape just to start it up and make shur its all good before i order couplers i need.......eh i know bad idea but in a pinch i bet it be all good only roughly 200 deg. couple feet off compressor right? NVM ill let you guys know im gonna get banned for that one

NO SPEED SHOPS IN THIS TOWN AT ALL

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No Pepboys either?

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240man91- order a set of deatschwerks 750's. theyll be plenty of fuel to get stupid if you want and theyre so affordable. theyre great injectors too

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There's a reason why they're so "affordable"

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top feed? an do they come with a new rail

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no they're just stock 270 cores that have been refurbished and drilled out, They're not specifically designed as high flow injectors.

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ok where do i get some an if they are stock will i have to retune for them an do they make them for the sr to?

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i found them thanks but are they plug an play i could not find that?

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Ok well im gonna say it def. just get an intercooler kit even a cheap turbo kit and sort through the junk. Im up 600$ for me complete kit so i guess im not doing that bad but FAB JEEZ . Started at 12 noon ended 12 midnight (measured it all up /made giant list/ran errands EVERYWHERE) <that was probly 4 hours or so
The rest of the night consisted of cutting out gaskets for adapter from copper SUCK just buy gaskets next time. Then moving to hardware and fitting eveything and of course welding up my custom exhaust flange.<<<< ALOT harder than it sounds. Had to teach myself how to weld pretty much.
After that i went at assembling turbo that snap ring is a major PITA.

(i think i made a big mistake tho turbo is bout 3/8 inch from master cylinder i bought a ton of heat wrap/tape junk i guess ill just have to run it and shoot with temp gun...acceptable??? 194F) Maybe ill make a vent for it cut a chunk out of hood ??? Run something like dryer hose " to duct air?

Thats bout where im at so i guess by next weekend it will run it looks pretty different to say the least!

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Forgot to add:
I did a bunch of searching bout options for intercooler piping and couplers found quite a bit ---

-pvc pipe is all good 1ft away from turbo and anything else HOT obviously
-use the cement and primer junk "solevent weld
-you can duct tape over all the pvc to make it a little stronger "fiber reinforce kinda"
-Radiator hose werks for piping and couplers wont melt at least in low power applications
-you can tack weld a coat hanger around metal piping if you dont have a "bead on it to help hold it (high boost)
-or use JB weld^ to make lip
-hairspray also helps to hold on couplers -who knew
-4 couplers is the ideal # for flex/give anymore you lose reliability tear/blow/slipoff
-used aerosol cans welded together! ghetto but that be AWESOME probly hard to weld tho THIN

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dam man. what started out to be neat has went to big a** head ace lol next time bet u dont do it like this haha but cool i want to see pics

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I predict fire....and a melted BMC, not neccessarily in that order...

I will keep all other comments to myself. If anything this thread will serve as the YDIR (You're Doing it Wrong) thread for all future Newbies.

Good Luck, you will most definitely need it.

And remember don't listen to anyone else...cuz,
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i just started crying i was laughing so hard^

YUP^^^^^^

hopefully it doesnt melt maybe ill have to look into booster delete... Agreed tho BAD idea

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I'm glad you can see the humor. I think its pretty clear from your thread that you have no illusions about the fact that you are ghetto rigging as much as possible. I for one just want to watch the spectacle. Its like a traffic accident in slow motion.

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dam i laughed so hard!!! lol but hey man if he pulls it off it could be cool but yes i see some big cons from all this. but ok did u find a way to to get the hot pipe on ebay sells a flang that might work http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SR20DET- ... ccessories

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240man91 wrote:thats what i have been thinkn about this bulid s13drifter an thanks for all your help on mine it runs great still 10psi right now i am buliding a new motor whith all new parts with a blanced crank an rod an piston. an new vavles an pistons an rings will b all net top to bottom then going with aa gt2871r lookn for 15 to 18 psi out of it an dont know what injectors i want yet maby some 550s idk yet
740cc is good for 460whp! gt2871 good for 450hp! no brainer...... :bigthumb:
oh and to the OP you know mostly all KA manifolds can be flipped due to our flange mounts. even bottommounts can become topmounts and vise versa! Ebay sr20 aluminum turbo pipe kit w/ all t clamps and couplers = $50!!! good luck.

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ok thank you i was just about to buy some 600cc ones think i am going to get the 810cc 0nes then o yea

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Getting really close the down pipe was no joke to fab up bolt clearance etc. The ebay t25 flange fits like JUNK had to wallow out the holes a TON! Yes the bumper clears the piping and yes it will be hidden im just going to run it for a while. It will actually help out alot converting to aluminum or what ever later.

Found out i actually have about an inch of clearance to master so still tight but ive seen same kind of set up EVERYWHERE. Lots of heat wrap i heard you can touch a wrapped down pipe which means its around 250F so>

My only question is im running my bov/bypass/vent valve hehe recirc. and do i need to route it before or after the maf. (the maf is on the intake side of the turbo)

I read up on blowthrough set ups for the maf allowing the ability to vent bov to amosphere which i may do later. Plus i read as a benefit negative being the "minimal restriction" that it allows your fuel trims to be alitte more "on key because its getting a good intake temp reading. Eh i dont know if it matters that much but that might be why some with 8:1 fmu run perfect while others say 6:1 is perfect? < there obviously is alot more to that but take it as you will

Im fabbing up a pipe for the one that comes off turbo because it was hitting the hood even with waste flange notched LAME anyways pretty much last few things.



to be continued......

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Got it started no oil leaks only runs for few seconds then dies ..... i still have to cement the piping im thinkin it was leaking air.
Another problem might be the air bleed valve on the subie bov im going to run it before the maf i guess? Ill let you guys know what happens.

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240man91 wrote:ok thank you i was just about to buy some 600cc ones think i am going to get the 810cc 0nes then o yea
Injectors dont make power if you don't get the right size ones for the right application your car won't run right. Look for ones that will run at 80% duty cycle for your hp.


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