Help me pick a turbo! (and supporting items)

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
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Carl H wrote:seriously the aem is REALLY overrated...the pfc works really well, all the aem does is give you the ability to eff up the motor a hell of a lot faster.
the pfc or aem ems will work for your powergoals, no doubt about that.The pfc will leave you some gas money to get home with


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Spazz wrote:the pfc or aem ems will work for your powergoals, no doubt about that.The pfc will leave you some gas money to get home with
the AEM price means nothing for me, I am an AEM dealer at work.

the PFC and AEM will cost about the same.


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Kamin wrote:
the AEM price means nothing for me, I am an AEM dealer at work.

the PFC and AEM will cost about the same.
OK well that settles that, you buy both give me the other, we both test them and see which works better.... I see no flaw in that plan lol.

Is the EMS plug and play for the rb20 and 25?

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300Plus wrote:
OK well that settles that, you buy both give me the other, we both test them and see which works better.... I see no flaw in that plan lol.

Is the EMS plug and play for the rb20 and 25?
No you need a laptop to upload the maps base for each.

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you can connect the EMS to your house PC and upload the basemap if you have to

he is probably asking if its a plug and play replacement for the factory computer (no wiring), if so, yes. it plugs into the stock harness with no wiring modification unless you change to a MAP sensor.

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map sensor ftl.if the ems is as cheap as i think it is at your cost kamin it might be worth it...but for most ppl pfc is actualy affordable.

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**** that, speed density = the ****

MAF sensors are gay.

and yea, i wouldnt event consider the EMS if i had to pay somewhere near retail. i dont NEED that much adjustability for only 400hp lol

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maf sensors are gay only if they are restrictive and nissan mafs are not restrictive.toyota mafs on the other hand are and thats why supras pick up stupid power from ditching the maf because the motor is literaly sucking air thru a 1.5" hole.speed density is 'easy' to tune but is too dependent on too much, change exhaust or intake and the car requires a retune...drive higher in altitude requires retune...or if you live where it gets cold in the winter yet another retune.maf is so incredibly flexible and accurate that imho unless the car is out right drag oriented ditching the maf isnt a good idea.

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Kamin wrote:
and yea, i wouldnt event consider the EMS if i had to pay somewhere near retail. i dont NEED that much adjustability for only 400hp lol
any chance we could work something out for an ems that cheap?

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Kamin wrote:you can connect the EMS to your house PC and upload the basemap if you have to

he is probably asking if its a plug and play replacement for the factory computer (no wiring), if so, yes. it plugs into the stock harness with no wiring modification unless you change to a MAP sensor.
You're ghetto if you do that... lolAnyway you still need to set base timing and calibrate the TPS with the aem. I guess you could lug the whole computer outside if you needed to...

The PFC is truely PNP the aem is almost PNP.

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Spazz wrote:
any chance we could work something out for an ems that cheap?
lol no

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so did you end up with a setup? just curious. any work with the ems yet?

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the_momo wrote:so did you end up with a setup? just curious. any work with the ems yet?
since its the week before SEMA i havent spent a dime haha, im not in a hurry for this upgrade lol

but i might be going an entirely different direction that would involve removal of the RB all together and something else going in

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youre getting hamsters in all fours arent you? i dont think the ems is plug and play with the rodent drive system. good luck with that.


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