Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Discussion of Infiniti's amazing (and underrated) sport-luxury crossovers, the EX35 and EX37. For 2014, the EX series will be renamed QX50, in line with Ininfiit's new naming conventions.
carboncreek
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Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby carboncreek » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:49 am

I have a 2008 EX35 Journey. It's like new and fun. The lights are so dim I can't tell if they are on and they light about 25 feet of the road. I removed the yellow oxidation film the light covers and that helped a little bit. When I look on-line I get lost - to many choices (I assume that LED bulbs are best and OEM Bulbs no good).
Please tell me what I should buy and I'll replace all of the bulbs (and buy a "converter" if needed).
It would be nice to see the road. Thanks for any help you can give me. Doug


Hughes W.
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby Hughes W. » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:41 pm

I replaced my low beam \ high beam and back up light with LED bulb, I hope this helps.
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HIGH BEAM
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REVERSE
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Dzionassi
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby Dzionassi » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:07 pm

Hughes W. wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:41 pm
I replaced my low beam \ high beam and back up light with LED bulb, I hope this helps.
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HIGH BEAM
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REVERSE

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Not sure why you removed bumper, but there is no need to remove bumper in order to change bulbs

Hughes W.
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby Hughes W. » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:10 pm

Dzionassi wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:07 pm
Hughes W. wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:41 pm
I replaced my low beam \ high beam and back up light with LED bulb, I hope this helps.
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HIGH BEAM
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REVERSE

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Not sure why you removed bumper, but there is no need to remove bumper in order to change bulbs
Because I switched out hid to LED, and i need to uninstall the ballast

Dzionassi
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby Dzionassi » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:21 pm

Hughes W. wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:10 pm
Dzionassi wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:07 pm



Not sure why you removed bumper, but there is no need to remove bumper in order to change bulbs
Because I switched out hid to LED, and i need to uninstall the ballast
Did same thing, i just unplugged ballast..

carboncreek
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby carboncreek » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:49 am

Thank You for the Part Numbers:
I used these numbers on-line to find the parts, but, I end up lists that include the OEM bulbs.
The photos of your lights look great !
Where can I buy exactly what you have ?
Are they Phillips Bulbs ?
I know very little about vehicles.
Doug

Hughes W.
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby Hughes W. » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:14 pm

Dzionassi wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:21 pm
Hughes W. wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:10 pm

Because I switched out hid to LED, and i need to uninstall the ballast
Did same thing, i just unplugged ballast..
i swap out the hid ballast with the LED driver because they are a direct replacement.

Dzionassi
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby Dzionassi » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:27 pm

Hughes W. wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:14 pm
Dzionassi wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:21 pm


Did same thing, i just unplugged ballast..
i swap out the hid ballast with the LED driver because they are a direct replacement.
Makes sense now :rotfl

Hughes W.
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby Hughes W. » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:40 pm

carboncreek wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:49 am
Thank You for the Part Numbers:
I used these numbers on-line to find the parts, but, I end up lists that include the OEM bulbs.
The photos of your lights look great !
Where can I buy exactly what you have ?
Are they Phillips Bulbs ?
I know very little about vehicles.
Doug
Those are not phillips, they are lasfit brand, i got them from amazon
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m shark
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby m shark » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:08 am

I think my 2017 QX50 has halogens. Would upgrading to LED be just plug and play?

Hughes W.
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby Hughes W. » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:46 pm

m shark wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:08 am
I think my 2017 QX50 has halogens. Would upgrading to LED be just plug and play?
i think so,I suggest you can try lasfit and ddm, they have good review from customers

DHackRSX
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby DHackRSX » Fri May 08, 2020 10:52 pm

Following this as I am interested in the results of LEDs in HID projector housings.

After consulting with the staff at theretrofitsource, I was advised to go with Osram Nightbreaker Lazer HID bulbs. This was against my initial questions to them about an LED replacement for my AFS HID projectors. They stated that there are no LED replacements (including the ones they sell) that would provide better night clarity than the recommended Osram HID bulbs. The margin is larger on the LED replacement kits so they had no monetary reason to steer me towards a simple bulb swap other than that honest good business is good for business.

The reason: The LED replacements do not have the focal specifications to provide the light where it is needed with HID based projectors. It will be of more use as a replacement in halogen housings. It will be blotchy in HID projectors and likely put the most light where it's not needed.

That said: The Ex35 has pretty poorly designed projectors as light output goes, so who knows.... anything might be better than running the standard D2S replacements.

I replaced my 4.5 year old Osram Xenarc bulbs tonight and achieved significant improvement. I have pictures and I'm willing to show the before and afters if interested.

The Xenarc bulbs were 6000k and the NightBreakers were 4200K.

I have experience in retrofitting headlights, I just haven't had the time to replace the projectors in my headlight housings. It's unfortunate that the projectors in our cars are so poorly designed when there's the premium feature of having AFS.

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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby Dzionassi » Sat May 09, 2020 9:48 am

DHackRSX wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 10:52 pm
Following this as I am interested in the results of LEDs in HID projector housings.

After consulting with the staff at theretrofitsource, I was advised to go with Osram Nightbreaker Lazer HID bulbs. This was against my initial questions to them about an LED replacement for my AFS HID projectors. They stated that there are no LED replacements (including the ones they sell) that would provide better night clarity than the recommended Osram HID bulbs. The margin is larger on the LED replacement kits so they had no monetary reason to steer me towards a simple bulb swap other than that honest good business is good for business.

The reason: The LED replacements do not have the focal specifications to provide the light where it is needed with HID based projectors. It will be of more use as a replacement in halogen housings. It will be blotchy in HID projectors and likely put the most light where it's not needed.

That said: The Ex35 has pretty poorly designed projectors as light output goes, so who knows.... anything might be better than running the standard D2S replacements.

I replaced my 4.5 year old Osram Xenarc bulbs tonight and achieved significant improvement. I have pictures and I'm willing to show the before and afters if interested.

The Xenarc bulbs were 6000k and the NightBreakers were 4200K.

I have experience in retrofitting headlights, I just haven't had the time to replace the projectors in my headlight housings. It's unfortunate that the projectors in our cars are so poorly designed when there's the premium feature of having AFS.
Disagree, there are better performing LED bulbs available. I did many test on LED and HID and I found that there are bulbs that performs like 50w HID's. My test was performed on Osram CBI bulb and stock Infiniti bulb. LUX meter never lie.
Not sure why you are saying Ex35 is poorly made projector, it is quality piece, metal construction that will last many years. Only problem with these is, that there is too small cut out, so there is limited light available in front of the car.
Now about theretrofitsource, they have only one d2s bulb available and it uses only 3 LED Philips zes chips per side, it is not enough to compete with hid. They used to have older version of Morimoto bulbs, which used Cree xhp50 and these LED chips have no place in automotive headlight. It could be used in fog light but not in headlights. In other words they don't sell anything that could come close to HID performance.

DHackRSX
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Re: Headlights Hi&Low, Fog and Back-Up

Postby DHackRSX » Sat May 09, 2020 8:31 pm

Nice! A candid response is appreciated.

My opinion of the projectors being poorly designed is just the result of my own experience. I can't see the road with other cars coming at me at night, I can barely see the AFS working although now with the nightbreakers it's better.

I don't know if it's the lens or the dims of the projector itself. The light output is far inferior to most other HID headlights. I retrofitted Valeo H7 halogen clear lense projectors into my old RSX and the light output was far superior.

I'm not interested in how blue my lights are. I don't care about the color band or having a pristine cutoff anymore. I just want to be able to see at night. Almost every time a car comes up behind me I see the shadow of my own car and then the whitewash when I'm passed. I have HIDs in my highbeams so those come in handy but the spread could be better. I won't complain since those reflectors are designed for halogen.

If there is a LED replacement that has the focal properties to work well in our projectors I'd love to be misinformed about HIDs being the best for our projectors.

This is off topic of the OP so I'll start another thread.

I really appreciate the response and hope to find conclusive evidence that an LED conversion will improve night driving.


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