I rather don't think that will work. You have to input an activation code in order to use the updated maps. The nav map system won't work without an SD card in the slot, and once you've activated the update, you'll need to keep the new card in the slot.darylzero wrote:I understand that you are pissed, but this is not Nissan's fault. It is the s*** salesman's fault. Try talking to the manager there and tell them what the sales d*** said to you. If they don't give you the update for free and nothing less, then tell them you will be contacting Nissan USA. This would cost the dealer 0 dollars as I believe it's just updated from an SD card.
You could also get it from ebay.
buy it here, http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-2011-2012- ... 3f23d4c772
Then sell it on ebay for the same price when done Of course I would accept nothing less than free updates from your Nissan dealership.
Didn't know you need an activation code. Even so you can just copy the SD card to another one and keep it in your car. Does the activation code just activate it or does it somehow phone home and make it so that activation code can't be used again??Rogue One wrote: I rather don't think that will work. You have to input an activation code in order to use the updated maps. The nav map system won't work without an SD card in the slot, and once you've activated the update, you'll need to keep the new card in the slot.
BTW, that link's for the previous map 25920 ZW00D, the current map is 25920 ZW00E.
I have no idea how they have the code tied in to the card. It's my understanding that the map system is not windows or mac based, so I doubt if you can just copy the card.darylzero wrote:Didn't know you need an activation code. Even so you can just copy the SD card to another one and keep it in your car. Does the activation code just activate it or does it somehow phone home and make it so that activation code can't be used again??
This sounds like a great idea for a new thread, but should probably go under General Chat so everyone on Nico can see it and relate their story.sprocket wrote:I feel your pain, I've had my fair share of dealership problems, both with new and used.
I've had a bad experience at 2 Nissan dealerships, which ultimately resulted in me never wanting to do business with them again and I''ve advised everyone I know about those dealerships so they can be informed. I now use a 3rd dealership and they have been great.
My friend had a bad experience at a BMW dealership where their sales floor ignored her (she had walked in ready to buy a 3 Series but was ignored for 45 minutes ... I presume they saw her pull up in an older CR-V, dressed casually, and didn't want to waste their time ... their loss) and went with a different brand because that was the only BMW dealership in her area. Unfortunately, some dealerships seem to think they can get away with it.
Please update us on what happens when you follow up with that dealership.
If it's digital it can be copied. Doesn't matter what file system it uses, it can be cloned. just an FYIRogue One wrote:I have no idea how they have the code tied in to the card. It's my understanding that the map system is not windows or mac based, so I doubt if you can just copy the card.darylzero wrote:Didn't know you need an activation code. Even so you can just copy the SD card to another one and keep it in your car. Does the activation code just activate it or does it somehow phone home and make it so that activation code can't be used again??
ImStricken wrote:very sad story. seems to be the norm among many nissan dealers. sad to say, as a very loyal nissan gear head for 10+ years = i just bought a hyundai tonight. sorry nissan, but your lame designs, and piss poor customer service killed it. Hyundai took me away
Easy Hyundai fan boi!! This is a Nissan forum and you are a Mod!sprocket wrote:2012 Hyundai Santa Fe USB map update is $199.
Since our favorite Mod. hasn't pointed this out , please allow me...darylzero wrote:If it's digital it can be copied. Doesn't matter what file system it uses, it can be cloned. just an FYIRogue One wrote:I have no idea how they have the code tied in to the card. It's my understanding that the map system is not windows or mac based, so I doubt if you can just copy the card.
while i acknowledge that you are 100% right, i chose to say nothing because paying for map updates is the biggest scam in the business. every portable unit offers navquest map updates for free; and these portable units cost only $99-$300. while the navigation thats installed into car's costs anywhere from $2,000-$9,000 and do not come with lifetime free updates. its nothing more than a money grab. and frankly if one side doesn't care about ripping off struggling single mothers, struggling lost young adults that cant seem to find themselves and a decent job(50% of college grads), seniors, then i dont give a hoot about some multimillion dollar company loosing some revenue from a "borrowed" map update. while i dont support piracy and illegal activity, nor the hippy mentality that "everything should be shared & free" - but i certainly wont rip anyone for saving some cash. (because that can become a slippery slope where anyone admitting to going over the speed limit, hacking the parking brake & dvd player function, etc all will need "warnings".)Rogue One wrote:"Since our favorite Mod. hasn't pointed this out , please allow me...
not that i am condoning it: but there is no way to clone it? really? (im not a big computer nerd, so i dont know this stuff to well)zummuz wrote:The SD-Cards for Nissan Connect cannot be copied to another SD-Card (I mean a working clone) even for your own back-up.
The content of the card is write-protected from factory, there is no way for you to erase, format or move the data from it.
You can only copy the content but this is useless because each card have a crypted file on it with the hardware ID of that card. So even if you copy all the files to another card, that card will have another serial number and at start-up the Navi unit will tell you that cannot use that card.
At start-up the Navi checks the SD-Card. If a new version of card is inserted - it asks for up-date. If you make the up-date and at next start-up you put again the old card, navi will ask for downgrade. If downgrade is refused then navi will not work as navi, only radio, CD and USB.
So - only chance - buy new card and keep it inside the unit. Anything else will fail.
And you should be happy with 99$ for a new card. In Europe the card will cost you almost 300$ !!!
I'm looking into it. BTW, I initially agreed with what ZUMMUZ posted, until I remembered that my last Rogue had a defective head unit that was replaced under warranty. I had to return to the dealership to retrieve the SD card from the previous unit as they forgot to put in in the new one. As far as I can recall, there was no error message, nor was I prompted for any security code.ImStricken wrote:not that i am condoning it: but there is no way to clone it? really? (im not a big computer nerd, so i dont know this stuff to well)zummuz wrote:The SD-Cards for Nissan Connect cannot be copied to another SD-Card (I mean a working clone) even for your own back-up.
The content of the card is write-protected from factory, there is no way for you to erase, format or move the data from it.
You can only copy the content but this is useless because each card have a crypted file on it with the hardware ID of that card. So even if you copy all the files to another card, that card will have another serial number and at start-up the Navi unit will tell you that cannot use that card.
At start-up the Navi checks the SD-Card. If a new version of card is inserted - it asks for up-date. If you make the up-date and at next start-up you put again the old card, navi will ask for downgrade. If downgrade is refused then navi will not work as navi, only radio, CD and USB.
So - only chance - buy new card and keep it inside the unit. Anything else will fail.
And you should be happy with 99$ for a new card. In Europe the card will cost you almost 300$ !!!
dangit cleetus!zummuz wrote:Each SD-Card have a unique CID which is engraved by the manufacturer in the production process.
That's right.ras_oscar wrote:...If they wanted to provide free lifetime map updates, they would need to negotiate and pay for that service...
i just updated my garmin with my free maps update, and it too is Navteqzummuz wrote:That's right.ras_oscar wrote:...If they wanted to provide free lifetime map updates, they would need to negotiate and pay for that service...
Nissan Connect is made by Bosch and maps are made by Navteq.
Nissan has to pay at Navteq for maps yearly and to Bosch for coding them to the unit. That's why Nissan ask money for up-dates.
Up-dates are once a year for this unit.
I don't know about US maps, but best Europe maps are made by Navteq.