Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

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Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby Nolander001 » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:49 pm

Been seeing a lot of r32s lately online and just wanted to know what the current average price would be for running r32 even if it's not in the greatest shape? I want one but I don't wanna drop like 20g. Also how much would it be to import something we can get stateside? Like a s14, 350z, 300zx? If there's a sticky somewhere I'm not seeing please point me in that way and flame on. :slap:


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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby GSX-R35 » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:21 pm

What kind of R32 are we talking about since you've got GT-Rs, GTS-Ts, 4-doors, 2-doors, etc.? Going rate for an R32 GT-R that's not a limited version like a Nismo or N1 right now is around about $20K for a decent one so a less than pristine example will probably be around $15-17K depending on condition.

As for importing other cars, in case you didn't know, the rule is that a car has to be 25-years old to be legal for import except under very particular circumstances so you can't import a 350z or s14 yet because they aren't older than 25 years. That's why the R32 is such a hot commodity right now because they just turned 25 in 2014. The S14 started production in 1995 and the 350Z in 2002 so just do the math. As for the 300ZX, unlike the R32 there's not a huge demand for cars like that that were available here in the US for obvious reason - they were already available here in the correct LHD configuration so why bother with a RHD one unless you just want to be different? If you're just curious, check out this website for some samples, they've got a 1991 300ZX TT for $8850 currently listed:

http://jdm-expo.com/

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby asoomal » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:54 pm

You can pick up GTS-T's for about 6-8 grand, they're not that expensive.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby Nolander001 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:50 pm

What's the biggest differences between gt-r and gts-t?

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby equatorial » Mon May 02, 2016 5:22 am

I live in Japan. I got my 1993 GT-R three months ago for $10k. It's not perfect, but pretty good. The previous owner was another American. He was asking $12k. Most of them that I looked at before buying this one ran $10k-$15k. Really nice ones went up to $20k.

Shipping to the US runs $1500-$2000 IIRC.
What's the biggest differences between gt-r and gts-t?
The GT-R has a slightly larger engine, a second turbo, and wider fenders. The GT-R has four wheel drive, and so does a GTS-4.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby M35Squirrel » Mon May 02, 2016 6:13 am

equatorial wrote:I live in Japan. I got my 1993 GT-R three months ago for $10k. It's not perfect, but pretty good. The previous owner was another American. He was asking $12k. Most of them that I looked at before buying this one ran $10k-$15k. Really nice ones went up to $20k.
Just curious, is that a V-spec or regular? Do you usually see a higher price tag for V-spec?

I am looking at a super clean white 1993 V-spec with HKS turbos asking $25k.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby MiamiR32 » Mon May 02, 2016 2:17 pm

Its always interesting ready up on what people "think" R32 GTRs are going for stateside. We're finally seeing them going for 32-37K for pristine (not stock) examples. Just last month an R32 GTR sold in Miami for $35k.

Of course you can pick one up for $20k. Then again, feel free to read through some of the recent threads here about particular people's buying experiences....

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby Nolander001 » Mon May 02, 2016 2:19 pm

So how much are gts-t going to in Japan that are kinda rough? Like for example I can find 350z here that cheap because of high miles or something, it still runs it just might need some love. I'm just wondering if it would be possible to get a r32 to the us for under 10g all in?

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby M35Squirrel » Mon May 02, 2016 4:27 pm

$10k all in for a r32 gts-t is easy. Heck, you can get a crapped out but running engine gtr that you call "needing some love" for less than $10k all in. Just keep in mind your definition of a "rough" 350z is not even remotely close to the rough condition of a r32. Search for a rough 300zx from the late 80's or very early 90's that was driving in a snowy region, then you can get a proper idea.

As I always tell people, if you can't stomach an old 300zx, you don't have the mental strength for a r32 ownership.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby Nolander001 » Mon May 02, 2016 4:34 pm

I'm a Datsun guy originally so has long as it's got frame rails and not huge spots of cancer rust I can handle it. :)

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby fn_gtr » Mon May 02, 2016 9:37 pm

MiamiR32 wrote:Its always interesting ready up on what people "think" R32 GTRs are going for stateside. We're finally seeing them going for 32-37K for pristine (not stock) examples. Just last month an R32 GTR sold in Miami for $35k.

Of course you can pick one up for $20k. Then again, feel free to read through some of the recent threads here about particular people's buying experiences....

What one sold for $35k? I guess not stock models are selling for more than I imagined but I've seen some that were rated 4.0 or higher at auction sell for $27-30k, and that's the highest I've seen for non-Nismo models.

Rivsu alone, just north of Orlando, has a couple for sale that were 4.0 at auction and they're selling them for under $30k.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby equatorial » Tue May 03, 2016 1:42 am

M35Squirrel wrote:Just curious, is that a V-spec or regular? Do you usually see a higher price tag for V-spec?
V-Spec is "Brembo brakes and a retuned ATTESA E-TS system to the Nismo and N1 packages, as well as 17" BBS wheels with 225/45/17 tires" and V-Spec II is 245 tires. The BBS wheels alone fetch a pretty penny. In terms of rarity, about twenty times more standard R32 GT-R's were made than V-Spec. However, performance wise, brakes and wheels are easily upgraded beyond V-Spec.

In practice, I didn't see more than a few grand difference in auction prices if that. I remember seeing a VSII for ~$12,500 IIRC. If it wasn't four hours away, I might have jumped on it.
M35Squirrel wrote:As I always tell people, if you can't stomach an old 300zx, you don't have the mental strength for a r32 ownership.
No kidding. The Japanese have a "throw it away and get a new one" mentality, especially since road tax on cars older than ten years goes up quite a bit. Even living here, some parts are pretty ridiculous. For example, the rear window trim kit was quoted at $700. I found them online as cheap as $300, but that's still for a kit only containing half a dozen plastic strips.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby MiamiR32 » Tue May 03, 2016 12:27 pm

fn_gtr wrote:
MiamiR32 wrote:Its always interesting ready up on what people "think" R32 GTRs are going for stateside. We're finally seeing them going for 32-37K for pristine (not stock) examples. Just last month an R32 GTR sold in Miami for $35k.

Of course you can pick one up for $20k. Then again, feel free to read through some of the recent threads here about particular people's buying experiences....

What one sold for $35k? I guess not stock models are selling for more than I imagined but I've seen some that were rated 4.0 or higher at auction sell for $27-30k, and that's the highest I've seen for non-Nismo models.

Rivsu alone, just north of Orlando, has a couple for sale that were 4.0 at auction and they're selling them for under $30k.
There's 3 right now in South Florida that are for sale between $35-37K. Some have single top mount conversions, all are putting down 450-550hp and modified.

The best news I've read this year is Hagerty's article estimating that the R32 GTR will be the next generation's 911 in terms of collectability and value prop. The only thing that gets better is that our GTR's (no matter how many are brought over stateside) will always be more exclusive that 911s of yesteryears. I think total there's somewhere around 500-600 R32 GTRs that have been brought over.

For a country of 330 million people...I like those numbers ;)

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby Nolander001 » Tue May 03, 2016 2:42 pm

So would you guys like it would be possible to get a r32 in any trim to or in the us for 5g? I would prefer running of course but I can do engine and general work and have friends to help with body work.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby M35Squirrel » Tue May 03, 2016 5:12 pm

For 5g, no. Expect to pay 3g just for ocean freight, broker, taxes and what not. Expect to pay another 2g for a trust worthy 3rd party to actually procure a vehicle, most likely off an auction (auction houses charge a lot of fees and taxes).

A quick rule of thumb is to add 5g on top of whatever you want to pay for a vehicle at auction.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby Nolander001 » Wed May 04, 2016 6:41 am

So anyone have any good site to look for r32s that might be in my price range? Lol all I seem to find are top of the line really nice ones that aren't in my range.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby MiamiR32 » Wed May 04, 2016 7:24 am

All your finding is the nice condition examples because that's where the margins are for the folks taking the time, money, and effort to bring the cars over here. There's absolutely no market for s*** condition R32, just the blunt truth.

My opinion is to save your money, keep building up your funds, and eventually you'll be able to approach a seller with a perfectly reasonable offer. These cars are a woot to drive!

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby M35Squirrel » Wed May 04, 2016 9:01 am

For the price range you are aiming, expect to pay heavy "Skyline tax." That is, take whatever you pay in total to get the vehicle to your door, 2x or 3x the amount. And in that sense, may as well get a well look after unmolested example, which you can even expect some value appreciation out of it.

One reason you are finding mostly clean examples for sale is because many people started at where you are, but after more research and some more reasoning many have arrived at this same conclusion.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby usafdarkhorse » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:34 pm

MiamiR32 wrote: I think total there's somewhere around 500-600 R32 GTRs that have been brought over.

For a country of 330 million people...I like those numbers ;)
Both numbers are increasing by the day. We're only into the mid 1991s.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby MiamiR32 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:10 pm

usafdarkhorse wrote:
MiamiR32 wrote: I think total there's somewhere around 500-600 R32 GTRs that have been brought over.

For a country of 330 million people...I like those numbers ;)
Both numbers are increasing by the day. We're only into the mid 1991s.
Very true. And I STILL like those numbers. Rarity isn't going anywhere :cool:

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby Wildtraveler » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:54 pm

I agree especially when you slap on the new Nismo LMGT4's machine spoke. Only making 200 sets.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby ahsan » Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:23 pm

http://www.japan-partner.com/ This place has a good amount of skyline for sale, just bought mine a week ago; not through them but the car was list on their website. Paid 25k for mine, I am sure for 20 you would probably get a very high mileage one.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby M35Squirrel » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:54 am

ahsan wrote:http://www.japan-partner.com/ This place has a good amount of skyline for sale, just bought mine a week ago; not through them but the car was list on their website. Paid 25k for mine, I am sure for 20 you would probably get a very high mileage one.
Did you receive your car yet? Only vouch after you have successfully received your car fault free.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby Wildtraveler » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:03 am

M35Squirrel wrote:
ahsan wrote:http://www.japan-partner.com/ This place has a good amount of skyline for sale, just bought mine a week ago; not through them but the car was list on their website. Paid 25k for mine, I am sure for 20 you would probably get a very high mileage one.
Did you receive your car yet? Only vouch after you have successfully received your car fault free.
Yes trust me when I say only review a business once you have your car. My body is in great shape but the motor was shot. And that's where the money is.

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Re: Going rate for a r32 and import questions.

Postby SkyAce » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:56 pm

I see this post is kind of old but I figured I'd chime in for anyone else who might be wondering since I just went through this process of getting a GT-R.

So there are a lot of places that sell GT-R's now. You still have to do your research and make sure the company is reputable but most are pretty good. The good ones do an inspection for you, make sure the car has no serious issues, fix issues, and title the car which leaves you only to buy it and transfer the title to whatever state you want. Like some peeps have posted, the cars are going up in price almost every few months. GTS-T's are going for about 12-15k while GT-R's have gone up to 25-30k depending. I have a complete stock GT-R and the price on it is now 25.5k. When I first started researching these cars they were going for about 20K (thats for a GT-R) but the prices are rising now that they are catching on here in the states. Get one now if you can unless you are waiting for a certain year.


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