Full-Race R14 -> 2010 Modified Tuner Shootout

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been working like mad on the aero. my next update will come once i have something worth putting up. right now its mountains of plazma cut sheet metal and hours upon hours of labor

copying the rear diffuser setup from this car:

http://www.modified.com/tech/0....html



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new prototype turbo arrived from BorgWarner, will finish installing it this weekend!!

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Geoff, sweet build. I can't wait to see this thing in it's final trim.

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full-race geoff wrote:new prototype turbo arrived from BorgWarner, will finish installing it this weekend!!
what turbo are you running now geoff?

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Piss on California, this is how people in AZ build cars!

Geoff, thanks for popping in and sharing the progress - Looking forward to getting more updates, and I'm thinking feature article... hint hint.

- Greg

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Your car rocks. Loving the suspension the most!

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full-race geoff wrote:copying the rear diffuser setup from this car:

http://www.modified.com/tech/0....html
Jesus. H. Christ. Tarzan ain't gonna know what hit him. C'mon Mike spec!

Is this diffuser you're building gonna make it way to mass production?

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I have loved your car since I picked my jaw off of the article it was featured in. Massive props for going the extra mile and applying your knowledge into the nissan field. Has anyone from nissan contacted you on your conversion?

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Very nice car and great fab work!

Wish i had the chance to do a walk around while this beast is up in the air. Pictures just don't do it justice.

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plain out bad. very nice work!

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Thats just nasty.

Gross

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please post some updates... the wifes not putting out and this is better than p0rn.

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its so beautiful. i just cant stop crying.

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update coming tomorrow. just finished installing the motons <<-- OMFG

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mmmmmm moton suspension

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pauliedrft
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what size turbo did you go with ??? im in the midst of going full e85 also 1400 cc injector for 700whp??? Great build

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thank you everyone for following my build!! Greg are you still going to link to this on the front page

here is the latest update for you guys:

To start this installment, many hardcore car guy know that the best suspension in the world is MOTON. Seriously - nothing else comes close. I researched my options - considered ohlins, bilstein, kw, penske but at the end of the day, none had what i was looking for except Moton. I HATE upgrading parts and only want to buy good suspension once, so i bit the bullet and what showed up was heavenly. The quality of these absolutely exceeded expectation, and im blown away (im a very picky engineer, this doesnt happen often) suspension of this caliber is seriously next level MOTON

^^ a total thing of beauty. Moton double adjustables (15 independant bump and rebound settings, blowoff valve system for high speed bump control, huge main piston, remote reservoir compression adjusters mounted on swivel banjo fittings (makes mounting them easy!), and 2.25" spring hardware.

^^this is the top-secret R14 front suspension ive never shown anyone before. consider yourselves lucky the Motons fit so perfect, its like the motons were just meant to be..

this is showing the drivers side remote reservoir compression adjuster

(pass side)

now to the rear --

installed (but waiting on the tender springs to arrive)

reservoir located, you can also see the fuel pump wiring

easy to see how the adjusters are mounted facing inwards, easy to access without removing the wheel

tire clearance at full droop

tire clearance at full bump

both reservoirs mounted, and the wing mount i am building now from 0.035 4130 cromoly

NEW prototype BorgWarner Twinscroll Turbo - dubbed S300'P'^^^look at the super badass turbine wheel geometry and my favorite feature of all, the vband compressor hsg to CHRA. soooo slick. I am looking to spool 1000rpm quicker and make 700+whp at 30psi boost... this should do it.

the legendary extended tip compressor wheel design, this is only 61mm inducer / 83mm exducer turbo, just like a GT35R but it moves 72lb/min at full-tilt, HUGE airflow for this small of a turbo (35R is 62lb/min for example). take a look at the far tip you can see the little "peak" that is mountain shaped on the top of each blade? thats the extended tip

getting ready for the charge pipe modification

4" downpipe flange welded on

^^old vs new... you can see how much smaller the new turbo really is^^got the manifold and downpipe 2000degree HPC coated, and will use DEI heat wrap on top of the coating to further reduce engine bay temps. Now just waiting on the *brand new* TiAL MVR 44mm wastegate -- hopefully will receive it soon!!

Front Aero^^front splitter mounted on the car, you can also see the radiator ducting. coolers will be remounted and ducted next^^strong enough for 330lbs @ 0mph, should handle 300+lbs downforce at 170mph!

Rear diffuser to make a functional rear diffuser, it requires that there be an area with no obtrustions to block air from exiting under the chassis or from behind the tires. I started by cutting the quarter panels level with the frame rail, and then i cut out the spare tire well

^^cutting quarter panels level with the frame rail

^^removing spare tire well

^^20 ga steel plate fabricated, and mig tack'd in place.

^^welds cleaned up, spray painted grey

flat bottom rear is finished! now time to bolt up the diffuser when it gets back from powdercoat on monday this bumper will be trimmed generously!

another shot of the rear, but this time the new spindles with proper toe rod geometry is installed

as she sits tonite, getting ready for a looong weekend!

now i have to corner weight the car, align it, and do a few tweaks from my friends from M-workz and motoIQ, then i can finish the aero, and turbo for one last update before the race. see you guys for one last update in 1 week!


Modified by full-race geoff at 2:54 AM 3/26/2010

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Baller! Keep at it man!

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Tarzan is gonna get raped.

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Man this is awesome.I thought my build was alright, but turns out I need more custom fab and Motons.

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So badass. Geoff, I've met you once before when Justin Derendahl brought me in back when his s14 was up there forever, and you were super nice. I just have to say that builds like this, but this build specifically from you guys really provides inspiration for the rest of us and gets the creative juices flowing to think outside the box. Please keep it coming and awesome job as always!!!

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amazing work!

this has to be the best s14 ever built ever better then moat exceeds!

simply amazing, i cant wait to see this on the track. looking foward to the turbo graph im really curious about that turbo..

i was looking into the s366 to make 600+whp but that turbo you have seems to be amazing..

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thanks everyone for the positive comments!!
Modified by full-race geoff at 6:02 PM 3/26/2010

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pauliedrft wrote:what size turbo did you go with ??? im in the midst of going full e85 also 1400 cc injector for 700whp??? Great build
borg warner 61mm twinscroll - its basically a twinscroll 35R on steriods.

i suggest copying my fuel setup using an ID1000cc injector + the same fuel setup im using for your 700whp goals... im runnign E85 and i did 750whp no problem at 75psi base fuel pressure.
Dano wrote:So badass. Geoff, I've met you once before when Justin Derendahl brought me in back when his s14 was up there forever, and you were super nice. I just have to say that builds like this, but this build specifically from you guys really provides inspiration for the rest of us and gets the creative juices flowing to think outside the box. Please keep it coming and awesome job as always!!!
thats awesome, tell justin i said hi next time you talk to him!!

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I can't wait to see the finished product, this is an absolutely epic build.

Is that turbo t-3 flanged?

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kouki munster wrote:Is that turbo t-3 flanged?
This turbo comes T3 twinscroll flanged standard, but we modifed it to be t4 twinscroll so it will fit my RB26 t4 twinscroll manifold, and to a 4" vband outlet to fit my 4" downpipe


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don't people usually make downpipes to fit turbos, not the other way around?

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yes, but I own Full-Race so we can make anything we want... and i am certainly not going to use a smaller downpipe or go to a smaller turbine flange!

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full-race geoff wrote:yes, but I own Full-Race so we can make anything we want... and i am certainly not going to use a smaller downpipe or go to a smaller turbine flange!
That is awesome.

This turbo intrigues me, I must go find out more.

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full-race geoff wrote:yes, but I own Full-Race so we can make anything we want... and i am certainly not going to use a smaller downpipe or go to a smaller turbine flange!
Well, your car is amazing sir. If you ever want to sponsor a car out in the midwest, I would love to wear your name anywhere on my car.lol. I can't wait to see this Godzilla smashin people on the track


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