Fuel injector cleaner

[Scavell]

I have had a 2004 m45 for three months. Any suggestions about fuel injector cleaner? I realize that the book says not to use any but it has always been normal car care for me in previous cars. I was thinking of using Lucas. I run a lot of miles so maybe this is not a problem for this car. Any knowledgeable input would be helpful

Thanks

[CakeDaddy]

BG44K will probably be the safest bet for this ride. This is dealer recommended and has proven to be solid in these testy engines. I've read some users are doing this every oil change. I recently added the oil additive and gas additive and so far so good.

[Scavell]

Thanks, i really appreciate the input. I will track it down

[THT]

I'd suggest Redline as it contains the esters that were taken out of BG44K after it was reformulated

[Pashdut]

it depends on your car. Some cars you cannot use fuel injector cleaners because it will damage the engine. better bring your car in the mechanic.

wow, i have never heard of this before. I purchase the fuel system cleaner from Pep Boys for like $7 to put in my 06' M35...is that bad?

[NightRiderQ45]

I'd suggest Redline as it contains the esters that were taken out of BG44K after it was reformulated

Man, I think you and I always end up posting on this types of topics lol! Redline is great, you are wasting your money on purchasing the new BG44k! Also another easy OTC product is Gumout Regane. It also contains the same esters that Redline have.

[peter_rabbit]

My question for everyone is rather you use the Redline or BG44K, Is there something that the dealer has to do to further clean the engine. I know you can add this yourself to the oil and fuel, but for some reason i was thinking that the dealer had to get in involved...maybe i'm wrong

[szh]

Well, BG-44K only goes in the fuel tank - not the oil at all!

If these treatments do not work (one or two sessions per OCI maximum) to fix engine drivability problems, then many Infiniti dealers have the powered rail flush systems to really clean things out. Don't let them just use the Nissan equivalent of the BG-44K, btw! In the powered rail flush, the engine is cleaned pretty darn thoroughly.

In extreme cases, it will be necessary to remove the intake and clean the inside of the plenum ... lots of sweat and hard work to do this, of course.

Generally, carbon deposits inside the engine are often cleaned sufficiently by hard-revving high, or BG-44K, or powered rail flushes. In worst-case scenarios, it requires either an intake and plenum clean or an engine tear-down and rebuild. But, I doubt any of us owners are at that stage!

Z

[GJEMD]

AMOCO or CHEVRON fuel and Amzoil fuel system treatment. unsurpassed

[Pashdut]

can someone answer my question please:

"I purchase the fuel system cleaner from Pep Boys for like $7 to put in my 06' M35...is that bad?"

ty

[THT]

can someone answer my question please:

"I purchase the fuel system cleaner from Pep Boys for like $7 to put in my 06' M35...is that bad?"

ty

Not necessarily but it won't do you any good either.

[szh]

can someone answer my question please:

"I purchase the fuel system cleaner from Pep Boys for like $7 to put in my 06' M35...is that bad?"

Assuming you got something like the "Concentrated Chevron Injector" cleaner, it is not bad, but it is simply not as good as the other products (like BG-44K) mentioned here.

Only do one or, at most, two of these sessions (with BG-44K or equivalent) every 3000 t0 3750 miles. If that is not enough to clean up problems, then you need the dealer to do a rail flush.

Z

[Pashdut]

Assuming you got something like the "Concentrated Chevron Injector" cleaner, it is not bad, but it is simply not as good as the other products (like BG-44K) mentioned here.

Only do one or, at most, two of these sessions (with BG-44K or equivalent) every 3000 t0 3750 miles. If that is not enough to clean up problems, then you need the dealer to do a rail flush.

Z

I should mention, there is nothing wrong with my car (Thank G-D)...it only has 20,000 miles, and the fuel cleaner I put was not a name brand, so that doesn't make a difference in cleansing ey?

[szh]

I should mention, there is nothing wrong with my car (Thank G-D)...it only has 20,000 miles, and the fuel cleaner I put was not a name brand, so that doesn't make a difference in cleansing ey?

With only 20k miles, you probably do not have much to worry about! Most of the non-name brand injector cleaner stuff is probably okay to use - although I would prefer that you get something like Chevron Concentrated Techron if you go to Pep Boys ... not too off-brand!

If you baby the engine (no spirited driving, etc.), then the V-8 (and to a lesser degree, the V-6) can develop mild carbon deposits - even with that low mileage! If you find the engine stumbling a bit, or rattling on startup, then a few simple WOTs (or a BG-44K session if the WOTs do not work) ought to clean that right out.

I strongly doubt that you have any serious cleanliness issues with the plenum or intake!

BTW, I would strongly avoid oil additives like Lucas, though!! See http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...s.htm for why! So, please do be careful with what you add to your engine oil!

Z

[NightRiderQ45]

Why is BG-44k continued to be metioned?? If you want to waste your money on the "new formula" BG-44k go right ahead. The only OTC product that I will purchase will be Gumout Regane. It has the same esters that Redline has plus you can find it cheap at Wally World. Most other products are mostly composed of kerosene.

[CakeDaddy]

Why is BG-44k continued to be metioned?? If you want to waste your money on the "new formula" BG-44k go right ahead. The only OTC product that I will purchase will be Gumout Regane. It has the same esters that Redline has plus you can find it cheap at Wally World. Most other products are mostly composed of kerosene.

Well, I really wouldn’t say it’s a waste of money. I see it as you get what you pay for, but this topic will remain subjective. The fact that my dealer recommended it was enough for me.

[szh]

Why is BG-44k continued to be metioned?? If you want to waste your money on the "new formula" BG-44k go right ahead. The only OTC product that I will purchase will be Gumout Regane. It has the same esters that Redline has plus you can find it cheap at Wally World. Most other products are mostly composed of kerosene.

Well, I guess I have not found the current BG-44K to be a waste. On a couple of occasions, with rattles due to carbon deposits, it has fixed the problem.

So ... even the formulation has changed (which I do not know for sure - might be time for me to download and read the Materials Spec sheet on it, I guess), whatever it is now still seems to be working well. Unfortunately, I do not have any of the older formulation to compare it to.

In the meantime, based on experience, I will keep recommending it for now! I will also see if I can find the Redline and/or buy of the Gumout to see if it does well - not a comprehensive comparison, just enough to see if it works.

Z

[442w30 conv]

What about Seafoam? In the tank not crankcase.

[Q45tech]

Seafoam is mostly Naptha Solvent and Isopropyl Alcohol [IPA].

Rather than constantly ask, learn to look up MSDS for the product you contemplate. Chemistry is often a helpful course

http://www.seafoamsales.com/pdf/MSDS_SFTT_US.pdf