Finally bought it after months of research, let me know what do you all think.

Post by **sanioll** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:41 pm

here i'm trying to fix the cracking sound by minimizing plastic to plastic rubbing by applying teflon tape around the corners and edges of the base.

Post by **sanioll** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:42 pm

MinisterOfDoom likes this company's products. Well, i gotta agree with you pal, it performs well for 3D graphical entertaiment applications.

Post by **sanioll** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:43 pm

And a little education shouldn't hurt you guys at all.

Post by **sanioll** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:45 pm

so yeah, this is how internals of a modern laptop looks like these days.

Post by **PoorManQ45** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:06 am

very nice. You can use spray on rubber to get a better affect then the teflon tape.

That might be a little messy though. I suggest duct tape.

Post by **nismofly** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:29 pm

haha i wouldve done that a long time ago to mine, but the screws are soldered in...

Post by **MinisterofDOOM** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:17 pm

Nice.

I guess the older Dells were more solidly built. My old Latitude CPx is indestructible...no sounds from the case...although the display's a bit dim when used outside.

Nice pics anyhow, it's interesting to see how laptop internals are evolving. Not the extremely purpose-built shape of the video card. Built by dell, using ATI components, just for that model case with those internals and that specific monitor. You don't get that kind of specialization in parts with a desktop.

But then, that has one major drawback: there are no true ATI Catalyst drivers for that card, you use Dell's version, which is not quite as manipulatable or stable. But ATI can't make drivers for every single machine/card/monitor combo, so it's left to Dell to do that part.

Question for you:When that laptop is running, if you click the "safely remove device" icon in the taskbar icon tray on the right, does your CD/DVDROM or floppy drive (if you have on, and it's in) show up? My roommate and I both have Dells, same basic "tech era" (his is PII450, mine's PIII500) both running WinXPHome (bleh!) and his does not show this while mine does...I'm curious as to why it's different...

Post by **sanioll** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:25 pm

well i clicked on safely remove the hardware, and couple secs later it said now you can remove it safely. the fact is that you dont need to click that button to remove it, just pull it out, just like usb device.

anyways, it didn't show up in my computer, so cd drive was gone after clicking that on taskbar. i removed cd drive and put it back in, and we're back in business.

regarding drivers from dell. i dont understand how can you customize drivers for a certain screen. the driver actually has to recognize screen, its default resolution and be set up for it.

for example, i got wide screen and running on 1280x800, perfect for everything and it doesnt hurt your eyes. as for optimizing drivers for certain lcd sscreens, dell or whatever maker must include drivers for lcd screen, so that graphic drivers can recognize and optmize itself for it. thus enabling users to update from ATI site when necessary.

THIS IS WHY I LOVE NVIDIA'S ROCK SOLID ROBUST DRIVERS. no offense.

Post by **MinisterofDOOM** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:45 pm

Perhaps Catalyst has been improved since the old Mobile Rage Pro I've got...but with my Rage you have to get either special multi-funciton, as-is drivers from ATI or find the actual Dell-created ones, because all LCD screens are different. Pixel counts are different...dimensions are not exact, aspect ratios are not the same (this is ONLY with laptops) so there's no practical way to jam all the different commands into one big set of drivers. But maybe there is now...I just know that when I updated mine to be able to run the HL Hi-Def pack a while back, it was hell hunting down the right drivers.

Post by **sanioll** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:58 pm

actually thats how it is with dell. i recently reinstalled everything, noticed after format that i'm missing god damn drivers cd, which dell was supposed to include.

so went to ati's site for graphic drivers and got forwarded to dell. i can get them from dell only. why, i dont know. i just told you the solution above, so i dont get why its not being implemented.

with nvidia, attach any lcd you want, doesn't matter. it will recognize assuming drivers for lcd is loaded, and set itself for that screen.

but, overall i love 9600 pro turbo very much. cant go wrong with 330mhz core and 128 mb of memory.

it just gets hot, and i blame it on dell's thermal pads. when i get time, iwill simply put artic silver under the hood.

Post by **PoorManQ45** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:56 am

sanioll wrote:so went to ati's site for graphic drivers and got forwarded to dell. i can get them from dell only. why, i dont know. i just told you the solution above, so i dont get why its not being implemented.

That is because your graphics "card" is specifically made for your laptop. Even though it may have the same specifications as a standard desktop varient, it is not the same thing, and therefore does not operate with the same drivers

Post by **MinisterofDOOM** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:46 am

Thanks, PMQ, that's what I was trying to say.Makes perfect sense to me.

Post by **sanioll** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:10 pm

PoorManQ45 wrote:That is because your graphics "card" is specifically made for your laptop. Even though it may have the same specifications as a standard desktop varient, it is not the same thing, and therefore does not operate with the same drivers

that sucks.

we need some standardtization regular shape graphic cards for lapptops. so we can do the swap when its time for upgrade. for example, right now, i would gladly drop in ati mobility 9700 128Mb. i can't, why? becuase specialization suckssssssssssssssssssss!!

Post by **nissanforlife** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:09 am

yep.. so much for warrantee.. . rofl...

not that i haven't been there...

Post by **MinisterofDOOM** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:16 am

screw the warantee. There's very little that can go wrong that Dell can fix and I can't. Just replacement of physical parts...everything else I can do myself, better, quicker, and for free.

Post by **sanioll** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:13 pm

WARRANTY IS STILL ACTIVE...

Post by **JustinStrife** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:54 am

I paid 2000 grand used from a friend for my Alienware laptop. P4 3.2ghz, 1gb Ram, 60gb 5400rpm drive, 16" screen, 128mb ATI Radeon 9700 video, DVDRW, built in wireless, yada yada yada. I'll try and post pics one of these days when I get off my a**. It's a killer comp though. Blows my AMD XP2000+ desktop out of the water in everything but burning stuff(stupid laptop writers are slooowwww).

Nice to see what these things finally look like under the hood. Freaky sorta.

Post by **sanioll** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:11 am

JustinStrife wrote:I paid 2000 grand used from a friend for my Alienware laptop.

dumbass!! for $2000 you can get almost twice as fast and cooler running laptop from dell now. shop around before you buy anything!!

JustinStrife wrote:P4 3.2ghz

desktop chip on a laptop. Well another mistake, unless its gonna sit on your desk and will be used on your all the time.

Because say goodbye to battery life and cooler laptop. You gonna loose your sperm count while typing with it on your lap.

Post by **sanioll** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:48 pm

hey, hey, UPDATES:

WHEN I SAY SOMETHING IS MADE CHEAP. IT MEANS IT IS MADE CHEAP DAMMIT!!

LCD SCREEN, NORMAL OPEN STATE:

Post by **sanioll** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:50 pm

LCD SCREEN, WHILE I'M TRYING TO CLOSE IT. LOOK HOW MUCH STRESS IS PLACED ON IT. COLORS HAS CHANGED, CAN BE CRACKED EASILY IF NOT CLOSED FROM THE CENTER. COURTESY OF DELL'S CHEAP CASE!! my hand is on the right top side.

Post by **sanioll** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:53 pm

also, some people say, their laptop's screen on the bottom leaks some light. Builshitt, no such thing. It simply caused by heat. warm up any spots on lcd screen and it'll get lighter. on a black screen its gonna look like its is leaking some light. cool it down, it will be gone.

i'll see if can snap some pic when its hot.

Finally bought it after months of research, let me know what do you all think.

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