Kinda makes you wonder how much their cost is if they cut that much fat out of it for a "sponsorship", doesn't it?ffrpwner wrote:oh and im getting all these parts for the price of one set of manifolds from mike smith...if i wasnt getting this deal would i be getting all these parts maybe but probably not all of them but i would still be getting the manifolds no doubt.
So?ffrpwner wrote: i will review each part that i use!!
But, you are. You buy their stuff, at whatever price, and you're supporting them.ffrpwner wrote:vikesfan im not supporting ams
Remove emotion from the situation for a minute. I'm not insulting you or your car. I understand everyone has different financial situations. I'm saying if you want to do a build on your car, do it right. Research, take your time and plan your build. What's the rush? Is your car running good now? I realize now you've driven your car more than 3 times, as the post I was referencing was from June. You do realize that replacing the manifolds requires an engine pull right? What turbos are you going to do? Motor mounts? Gaskets? Getting a new EFI harness? What other maintenance items do you have planned? The to-do list for an engine pull is very long, and you want to compile a checklist before you start so you don't miss things.ffrpwner wrote:im sorry my build and car is not up to your guys standards and all this crap has made me seem like the wimpiest and most unrespected mod out there but hey thats cool thanks guys your great...im not a spokesperson for ams im just saying everyone copies s*** and sometimes the copied item is just as good or close to being as good as the "original" and ams has more publicity and its name is out there more then all the other "ebay brand" stuff.
How much "fun" are you looking for? All I have is Popcharger, JWT ECU, catback, flywheel and dps. The car is crazy fast. I lose traction when I floor it in second gear. There has only been 1 car to day that has pulled me on the highway. I beat my cocky friends 2010 Mustang GT. That's like a 35,000 dollar car that he has 5 grand out into. Beating that is FUN. Beating a trans am is fun and beating a 2010 dodge challenger is fun. A few minor upgrades and that car will scream. That's not even mentioning that you can still get an UD pulley for like 200 bucks and test pipes for 300 or so. You could even go with a 1 piece driveshaft for 200-300 bucks. Your car will destroy 90% of the stuff you run into. If your goal is to be the fastest out there you will never win. What happens if an evo rapes you after you do these upgrades? Then is 450rwhp not enough? Then do you need to go for 600rwhp? I will give my friend credit in 1 aspect...Even though he is cocky and always has to win or be right, he is happy with his car. Even though mine is faster he doesn't want to do anymore with it. He said he is happy with it now and it is fast enough to wax most people and he doesn't feel like pumping more money into it. That's a great attitude. Find a spot that will make you happy.ffrpwner wrote: I mean what fun is my car gunna be
When I say 5k plus this is what I mean...If you add up the prices of this stuff at like importpartspro it comes to around $4,000 and thats taking middle/low prices of stuff. And I didn't even add up everything on that list. That isn't even including your custom made dps and intercooler piping or your dual air intake (which if you get the Selin kit, is around 600 bucks.) 5k plus means what you would pay at a normal place...not AMS pricing. Are you seeing the amazing deal you are getting? How are they even making money? They are giving the stuff to you. And I told you in a pervious post about if something seems too good to be true...ffrpwner wrote: vikesfan im not supporting ams and im not trying to fix or do my part to fix a problem that will never change im doing whats good for me and when im getting all these parts which add up to 1600 not 5k for 800 bucks plus free shipping then i cant complain...
That's a very general statement only true to MSP vs AMS. What happens when the innovator outsources their work/business to China? (hence the walmart analogy, which does in fact apply towards even the z32 crowd) I've found that there are some innovators that actually are trying to help the target audience, and then there are those that are merely trying to come out with the next hottest product to make a quick buck.BigTDogg (MA) wrote:
The copies are no where near as good. Why? Because they send the original to China and say "here, make this". Having worked with Chinese manufacturers for many, many years, I can assure you the products are garbage. AMS never said what their manifolds are made of. Never. Why? Because they probably don't even know. Never mind the fact that AMS doesn't even inspect their outgoing products, as shown by the poor guy who got a set of manifolds with a hole in them.
So let's recap: no engineering, no quality assurance, and no respect or caring for the end user... yup, sign me up, AMS sounds awesome
Well if you have driven cars that fast it might take quite a bit to scare you lol. I just think that if power is goal it is better to get the best quality parts you can. I don't feel like spending 2 grand on intercoolers/piping/throttle bodies but I know if I wait it will be worth if. I don't know if you ever check out SZs blog but if you don't check this out.ffrpwner wrote:Actually right now I barely brake loose in first all I have is test pipes cat back pop charger and jwt ecu pop upgrade. I guess if I can get to 370 ill be cool and I've driven around in my friends 700whp sti and I've driven my other friends 500whp supra so I'm aware of how fast anything over 350rwhp is for a street car but right now my car doesn't scare me and that's what's I want haha but I get it if you guys are really this against ams they must be doing something wrong. I'm still in consideration of the manifolds but yeah idk. I'm still gunna do this build but ill push it back a year so I can to a motor rebuild at the same time
Your exhaust did sound good in the video you posted as well, and it is very unique. The only two things I'd suggest for the list you have above: See Joe (Member Sppdracer) for a DXD Southbend clutch. I've been very happy with mine, and he gives great customer service. And for the EPROM chip, I'd contact SZ as they also do EPROM tuning. If you're in Cali you can go there and dyno and they'll write you a custom chip.ffrpwner wrote:well the thing is i like the single its always been unique to me so i wanted it....i get lots of complements on the exhaust and hearing the turbos spool all the time is amazing haha...but for my build i had two exhaust options. buy a supra hks muffler and have a 4 inch single exit exhaust with 3 inch down pipes and a y pipe right after the down pipes.....but my other option was a full 3inch dual exhaust hks style....idk what im going with now but thats the last part im worried....right now im going to find some rebuilt or fairly new stock turbos since the turbos i have right now...i just dont trust them with the 110k miles they have on them haha.
So my updated list for a 380whp goal.
Newer or rebuilt stock turbos.
sz down pipes
my custom exhaust
bigger injectors
EBC set to 14 or 15psi
god speed smic or fmic (havent decided yet)
all new piping
lots of deletes
new rear main seal
stage 2 or 3 clutch
light weight flywheel
one piece drive shaft.
and ill get a upgraded chip from jwt
i thought you already have a jwt ecu/chip?ffrpwner wrote:
and ill get a upgraded chip from jwt
IMO BDE needs too much modification to get installed compared to the WinFactory setup. If you want a more simple drop in fuel rail system the WF is the one to go with.BigTDogg (MA) wrote: Something like the BDE top feed fuel rail, or the WIN Factory version would be a great way for you to go with injectors. The replacement injectors are much cheaper than the Nismo or Jecs, and more predictable and available than the Deatchwerks.
My AL driveshaft is an 18 pound savings over stock. No real difference in engine rev speed like a flywheel, but 18 pounds of even static weight is huge!ffrpwner wrote: I was going to get a aluminum drive shaft
Rager wrote:
ffrpwner wrote:Well i have a friend that dd's his twin turboed hr350 that dynoed at 460rwhp its actually very street able. but 380 should be enjoyable. haha it does take alot to impress me especially after spinning all 4 wheels at 50mph in my friends 700whp sti!