evo 8

Post by **SilviaLuvr** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

I just seen one today...ON THE ROAD! At first i thought it was an SR-4 b/c i was behind another car and then when the road opened up into two lanes i seen "Evolution" then i seen spining enkie's and then FMIC. I was like "no fkn way!"

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

that was probably me...hahhah...j/k

that **** was so fas(well to me at leat)t i finish 1 avenue with 2 gears only! i couldn't even go to 3rd....in nyc 1 avenue is similar to like3 or 4 block.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

well, sure the evo, STi and 350/g35 are all priced in the same ball park, whoever said that the 350 would out perform them is wrong in almost every way possible, teh 350zs arent THAT fast, o-60 in 5.9, not exactly mind boggling, and skidpad is ruled by the evo (cuz sti isnt out yet), and 4wd is going ot beat it on a road course, and the power is damn near the same, the evo does o-6o in 5flat, now thats quick, to me, for hte money, the EVO, but id get the 350 cuz it looks 10x better, its a 2door, GReddy's turbo for it puts u at about 38o hp, and its a nissan, the 4g63 may not be showing its age, but its gettin there, i say time for a make over, nice cars either way

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

how come many people think the evo 8 is ugly or something? i think the evo 8 is hot and i don't think the 350z look 10x better, imo.

if i have a choice to buy those car i would choose the evo8. =D

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

well u see, the 350 LOOKS sportier to me, its a 2door 2seater, just looks plain sexier, but i know the EVO is amazing looking too, and will out handle it anyday, for hte money, the EVO is an obvious winner, but ill still take the Z

Post by **SilviaLuvr** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

sportier yes. then a gain you are comparing apples to oranges if i may boldly say. Name one really good loking rally car...thats what the EVO is. a rally car. I don't think that mitsu, subura, pueguet and everyone else really cared that much about the car looked. As long as the car performed. I don't even think they where intending it to be a street car. thats my opinoin on their looks. Back with the 350, the 350 is a track car. In track, the designer focus is on areodynamics something that americans love. curves! Not to compare just for arguments sake, look at the ferrari, lambo's, vipers, vetts, etc. they all have those exotic curves indacating that they can...(can't think of the word soooo__________).

oh yeah the 350 runs 5.6 0-60 and 1/4 miles in 14.3 "track" "Road & Track"

Post by **gibbo80** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

The way motor trend was talking the evo 8 was faster than the sti and 350. I also heard that the sti and evos were gonna have something like the skylines where you can adjust the power like 50% front 50% back or like 80% 20% or anything you want. That would be nice.

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

the EVO 4wd system isnt remotly related to the GT-R's. the GT-R stays RWD until it looses grip then it sends torque to the front wheels. Like i said, if it were me with 35K in my pocket, i would just get a legalized R32 and beat the shiznit out of the EVO8.

Post by **SilviaLuvr** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

gibbo80: it's like an ajustable boost system right?

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

hes talking about torque split, no production cars have factory option manual torque split controllers (maybe the EVO8 but i havent heard that)

Post by **Repo Man** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

nlzmo400r wrote:well, sure the evo, STi and 350/g35 are all priced in the same ball park, whoever said that the 350 would out perform them is wrong in almost every way possible, teh 350zs arent THAT fast, o-60 in 5.9, not exactly mind boggling, and skidpad is ruled by the evo (cuz sti isnt out yet), and 4wd is going ot beat it on a road course, and the power is damn near the same, the evo does o-6o in 5flat, now thats quick, to me, for hte money, the EVO, but id get the 350 cuz it looks 10x better, its a 2door, GReddy's turbo for it puts u at about 38o hp, and its a nissan, the 4g63 may not be showing its age, but its gettin there, i say time for a make over, nice cars either way

The EVO is indeed very good on the skidpad and slalom. A roadcouse is not the same thing. There are a lot more variables in a roadcourse and I don't think the EVO will be appreciably if any faster than the 350Z on said course.

The 4g63 HAS been given a makeover. Have you read about the setup? I would like to see you expound on why that engine is becoming geriatric.

Zero to 60 in five flat is ok but not stunning. What is impressive is the capability of coming close to that on a compromised road surface. C&D tested a 1986 Buick Grand National 0-60 in 4.9 seconds back in 1985. That's before some of the members on this board were even born. Keep in mind the weight of that car, 2wd on sorry Goodyear Eagle tires. So I'm not exactly blown away by the EVO's 0-60 time.

Post by **Stee Flo** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

Actually the sti comes with the Driver Controlled Center Differential (DCCD) and power can be adjusted as much as 65 to the rear i think.

Post by **PabloHoney** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

The first run of EVO 8s will not come with the active center diff. I don't know why Mitsubishi didn't include it (other than cost issues). From what I hear later in the first year, the ACD will be an option.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

repo man wrote:The EVO is indeed very good on the skidpad and slalom. A roadcouse is not the same thing. There are a lot more variables in a roadcourse and I don't think the EVO will be appreciably if any faster than the 350Z on said course.

The 4g63 HAS been given a makeover. Have you read about the setup? I would like to see you expound on why that engine is becoming geriatric.

Zero to 60 in five flat is ok but not stunning. What is impressive is the capability of coming close to that on a compromised road surface. C&D tested a 1986 Buick Grand National 0-60 in 4.9 seconds back in 1985. That's before some of the members on this board were even born. Keep in mind the weight of that car, 2wd on sorry Goodyear Eagle tires. So I'm not exactly blown away by the EVO's 0-60 time.

wow, u really think an evo wouldnt take a 350 on a road course, hmm, i respect ur opinion of course but begg to differ (depending on course), bottom line the evo is just faster, atleast so it seems, and as far as the 4G63, i should have worded my statement differently, and i have seen that they gave it a makeover, and the 4G63 was so much ahead of its time, that it doesnt really show its age too much now, but id still like to see them use something different, just for a change, subaru went to a 2.5, and my guess is by evo 9 or 10, mitsu will follow, but as far as buying the evo or 350, i still stand on a 350 and lighten her up a bit, she seems to have a lil pudge on her, id like to see a 350 get down to jus under 3klbs or so, that would be awesome, and i def want to see a comparo if one happens, i suspect one should come up on best motoring

Post by **ZERO** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

I dont know about the 4G63s though... The 4G63 produced between 1995 and 1999 have a factory defect called crankwalk and Mitsubishi will not take responsibility for this.

I would wait a while to see how it develops. This is why you see some people with 2nd gen eclipses swapping their engines for 1st gen 4G63s.

Crankwalk has been attributed to many things, but nobody has ever been able to point out what exactly causes it. What happens is that the thrust bearings move out of place and all the internals get disaligned and...well, you get the picture. So, for now I dont trust any 4G63 that is not a 1st gen...

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

o, is this the problem ive heard with most mitsubishis , and 4g63s have been produced since ATLEAST '92

Post by **93semax** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

There was an EVO at raceway park in english town, nj this past sunday. It ran a 12.5XX... you could barely hear it go down the track. I doubt it was stock..but it was the biggest surprise of the day. Here is a pic.

http://urbanracer.com/gallery/...0.jpg

Post by **ZERO** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

nlzmo400r wrote:o, is this the problem ive heard with most mitsubishis , and 4g63s have been produced since ATLEAST '92

The Eclipses that have this problem are 2nd gens. They were produced from 1995 to 1999. In other words 1989 to 1994 were ok(this is to my knowledge). The only other problem that eclipses suffer from is a weak transmission... I know all this because one of my good friends is kind of an Eclipse freak and he almost convinced me to buy a first gen

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

oo, well i guess its a good thing he didnt convince u, what kind of car are u driving now??, and as far as that evo running 12.5, thats fast as hell, easily a second faster than stock, im guessing nitrous or an upgraded turbo, from the pic, the wheels are stock, so im guessing hte tires are as well

Post by **ZERO** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

Well... right now im driving a 1991 Honda Accord stationwagon. This was my first car. It is now for sale back home in Puerto Rico. Hopefuly it will be sold soon so I can get my 240 and an RB20 swap...

Dont laugh at my car. I still kicked some arse. They are highly underrated because they are wagons. I once hit 125mph with the stock F22 (2.2L single cam 125hp). I beat the BMW 318 that was racing me. Twice.

Post by **gibbo80** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

repo man wrote:The EVO is indeed very good on the skidpad and slalom. A roadcouse is not the same thing. There are a lot more variables in a roadcourse and I don't think the EVO will be appreciably if any faster than the 350Z on said course.

The 4g63 HAS been given a makeover. Have you read about the setup? I would like to see you expound on why that engine is becoming geriatric.

Zero to 60 in five flat is ok but not stunning. What is impressive is the capability of coming close to that on a compromised road surface. C&D tested a 1986 Buick Grand National 0-60 in 4.9 seconds back in 1985. That's before some of the members on this board were even born. Keep in mind the weight of that car, 2wd on sorry Goodyear Eagle tires. So I'm not exactly blown away by the EVO's 0-60 time.

Those buick grand nationals were turbo and pushing a hell of alot of boost. I know it was over 20 im thinking like 22 but not for sure

Post by **JustinStrife** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

Between the Subaru and Mitsu, I'd take the Evo anyday. I'm partial to Evo's from way back. I'd love to get my hands on the Evo VI they had on SCC(I believe) w/ 450hp(was de-tuned 200hp and 300 lbs) Oh well I'll just have to settle with an S13 and an RB25DET swap

Then again... A GT-R would be cool....

Post by **Sopdadope** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

gibbo80 wrote:Those buick grand nationals were turbo and pushing a hell of alot of boost. I know it was over 20 im thinking like 22 but not for sure

Grand nationals pushing 22psi of boost run deep into the 11's if not faster...

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=6137

dayum...

is it me or do all buick grand nationals have auto trannies

Post by **Sopdadope** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

repo man wrote:The EVO is indeed very good on the skidpad and slalom. A roadcouse is not the same thing. There are a lot more variables in a roadcourse and I don't think the EVO will be appreciably if any faster than the 350Z on said course.

The 4g63 HAS been given a makeover. Have you read about the setup? I would like to see you expound on why that engine is becoming geriatric.

Zero to 60 in five flat is ok but not stunning. What is impressive is the capability of coming close to that on a compromised road surface. C&D tested a 1986 Buick Grand National 0-60 in 4.9 seconds back in 1985. That's before some of the members on this board were even born. Keep in mind the weight of that car, 2wd on sorry Goodyear Eagle tires. So I'm not exactly blown away by the EVO's 0-60 time.

The EVO 8 has the Z beat in every category from braking, 0-60, 1/4 mile, road-holding, slalom, skidpad, you name it. It may not have the sex appeal of a Z but in reality, is the superior real world car. Not only is it more practical but a necessity in northeastern winters.

Post by **Just another 240** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

haha guess what people, i don't remember if i mentioned this yet (too lazy to look back at the early post) when i was prep-ing the evo8 the dealer want to change the leather shiftnob to an aluminum one. After that they gave me the leather shiftnob! muahahhahaa. =D

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

lessthanjakejohn wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=6137

dayum...

is it me or do all buick grand nationals have auto trannies

all grand nationals are auto

Post by **JustinStrife** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

It was a BOZZ Speed Evo VI. Highly tuned and RHD. They spent countless hours with different drivers and technicians to get the suspension dialed in right for that car. But that car was a BEAST.

Later on down the road when i'm picking $ from the trees in my backyard I want to import an Evo VI and do a Bozz conversion. I have to say in a humbled way, that that car in the magazine, is the only true car I like better then the Supra Mark IV and the Sil-Eighty...

*sniffle* Sorry guys.. I can't help it..

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

yes the evo is superior than the 350z in almost every way, but the 350z are so much sexier, man it just kills me to see the 350 get man handled by a 4dr, 4cyl car (although the evo, along with the sti, has to be the coolest 4dr sedan around)

Post by **JustinStrife** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:47 pm

Update. I saw my first Evo 8 today at work. A guy my age was driving it. HELLA SWEET. I can't say anything better to describe such an awesome car. I wasn't sure what I'd think of the looks, but it looks better in person. I'm partial to the Evo VI, but I wouldn't mind an Evo 8 now..

Wow... Beast... WRX eater...

Nice family car...

evo 8

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