E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

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E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:13 pm

Just testing the water to see if any one is interested in a set of template/copies of the lower engine gaskets for the Datsun E-1 motor. Pretty sure some of the same gaskets will work on the J13.

Let me know as I have painstakingly copied them to PDF and they are true to size. All you need to do is hit print on some nice 25+lbs paper or nice card stock, verify fitment, and then make your own gasket.

No gasket is larger than a single 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper. I'm working on the oil pan gasket as it is obviously larger than 8 1/2 x 11, so 'cutting' this one into two pieces.

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:13 am

So here is what I have -

Oil pump to block gasket (part no. 15066-30000)
E-1 MK-3/4 Oil filter housing to block gasket (Part No. not depicted)
Mechanical fuel pump gasket (Part no. 17039-30000) requires two and template can be used to trace a blank cover
Front Plate to block gasket (Part no. 13037-01300)
Back Plate to block gasket (Part no. 32011-09400)
Timing cover gasket- cork type at 1/16 in thick (Part no. 13044-08000)
Water Pump to block gasket (Part no. 21074-08000)
Water Pump back plate gasket (Part no. 21014-08000)
Thermostat gasket top (Part no. 11062-30000)
Thermostat gasket bottom (Part no. 21207-30000)
Water outlet to heater gasket (Part no. not depicted)
OE Fuel filter strainer gasket (Part No. 16407-87260)

Also have -
Windshield wiper mount to fire gasket, rubber at 1/8 in (Part no. 26352-04100)
Transmission lever cover plate gasket (32169-00100)

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Re: E-1 Low Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:32 am

Okay, finally figured out how to scan, upload, and change files and programs for the lower engine gasket templates.

Let's see if this works.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] ... 619820743/

Again, I have these in true size in pdf. Just let me know if you would like a copy.

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:02 am

Hey there 320 fans, just got an update from Japan, via Bowling Green, Ohio on the E-1 gasket set- and here it is...

I regret to inform you that per sales department from Japan, we are no longer manufacturing the gasket
for this engine type.

We greatly appreciate your interest in Ishikawa Gasket.
Best Regards,


Well we tried, but I think this answer was expected. You may not recognize the Ishikawa Gasket name, but back when they did make the gasket sets for the many Datsuns models they were known as Cherry Gasket - you can occasionally see these gasket sets for sale on eBay for the 240/260/280 Zs and there is one on there now for any Datsun with an E-1 engine.

So in the mean time the templates are the best route to go to make your own gaskets with new and much improved gasket material. Remember these gasket set are up to 30, 40, and 50 years old so even if you are able to find/win a set these gaskets have zero moisture content which means they are brittle and have shrunk from their original size by a few millimeters.

So do not chuck your E-1 motor just yet. All and I mean all parts are out there and available (okay, maybe not a brand new crank, but I'm working this one too). They just might be made in England, but that's okay.

If you have a specific question or inquiry let me know as I know or know where to get you an answer with part number, pics, and supporting data and references for your E-1 motor.

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Atabale » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:22 pm

Sir

I am a new owner of two 320 and will register their vin no. soon. I would gladly have a pdf copy of all the gaskets.

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby difrangia » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:37 pm

Li'l Truckie wrote:Hey there 320 fans, just got an update from Japan, via Bowling Green, Ohio on the E-1 gasket set- and here it is...

I regret to inform you that per sales department from Japan, we are no longer manufacturing the gasket
for this engine type.

We greatly appreciate your interest in Ishikawa Gasket.
Best Regards,


Well we tried, but I think this answer was expected. You may not recognize the Ishikawa Gasket name, but back when they did make the gasket sets for the many Datsuns models they were known as Cherry Gasket - you can occasionally see these gasket sets for sale on eBay for the 240/260/280 Zs and there is one on there now for any Datsun with an E-1 engine.

So in the mean time the templates are the best route to go to make your own gaskets with new and much improved gasket material. Remember these gasket set are up to 30, 40, and 50 years old so even if you are able to find/win a set these gaskets have zero moisture content which means they are brittle and have shrunk from their original size by a few millimeters.

So do not chuck your E-1 motor just yet. All and I mean all parts are out there and available (okay, maybe not a brand new crank, but I'm working this one too). They just might be made in England, but that's okay.

If you have a specific question or inquiry let me know as I know or know where to get you an answer with part number, pics, and supporting data and references for your E-1 motor.

Li'l Truckie

Li'l Truckie,
This is good stuff that you are putting up for all. I'm a new owner of a 320 that is in need of an engine re-do. I have been gathering interchange and source info for the E1 for the past several weeks. I've acquired a few parts and am on the trail of more like a hound dog. I will be trying to contact you but I guess that I don't have enough activity yet to contact members. I am in Oklahoma. Not an abundance of Datsuns here in the heartland. I guess that when they got used up they got recycled. I'd like a copy of the gasket file/files also.
Steve

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:35 pm

Steve,

Welcome aboard! E-1 rebuild? No problem. I promise you will not have to work too hard in finding parts. Let me know what you need or are looking for and I point you in the right direction. I rebuilt one last year and it was simple enough. Means Motors in Wichita did the machine work. I took it to them in parts and they gave me back a put together with all new standard size rings and bearings all around. The head was rebuilt with applicable parts I sourced on eBay. My bill was around $850 for Means Motors and probably another $500 or so for parts that I resourced here and there.

Yeah, sorry about Oklahoma. I think I got the best your state had to offer with a rust free one owner '71 510 from OKC, a parts 510 from Tulsa, and a 320 and 222 both from the Tulsa area.

Here to support,

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby difrangia » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:45 pm

Crap-a-mundo, truckie. I'm gonna have to see what I can do bout sealing up our northern border. Too many jewels leaking out up there. Yeah, A 220? WOW!! I've acquired a few amazing cars just hiding in plain sight within 150 miles from home over teh past twenty years. I'm in east central OK.

Looks to me, so far, that the pistons might be a difficult item to source in oversize. I know that there are others that will interchange (J13 at the top of the list). I have no idea what I'll need on the pistons & bearings till I tear her down. I'd consider picking up a set of .5mm - 1.0mm oversize pistons if they come along. Looks like standard/undersize main & rod bearings are available on Ebay when size is determined. Don't want to wait too long. Seems Australia might be a source if required.
Also want to determine if any other cams are interchangable. I'd like to have something just a little warmed up (lift/duration) and pick up a few horses with a Weber gas-maker.
Thanks for the quick response and info.
Steve

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:45 pm

Steve,

Tracking you need to wait until the tear down, that's fine. Might search through NAPA on line. I've seen bearings and rings and by size in one of my saved Datsun vehicles. You will have to put in each model by each single year as NAPA has yet to figure out that an E-1 motor in a 1962 PL-320 is the same E-1 engine in a 1965 410. So they may list a particular part that works on numerous Datsun for one specific model for a single year, you just have to find the model and year for that specific part number.

Example is the Hitachi distributor. NAPA only lists the Echlin distributor for a 1962 320, period. However, we all know this same part works on many Datsun models with an E-1 engine with the Hitachi distributor.

Here's a link for compatible internal engine parts, no idea how I came across it, nor have I figured out how to find the homepage. So lots of Sprite/Midget, other MG and Datsun stuff works; pistons, rings, bearing, thrust washers etc. Just scroll down a little 'til you see 'E-1'

http://www.farm.net/~mason/datsun/datsun-parts.html

So you can compare the information from this website to the parts catalog for Victoria British or Moss Motors and order the correct part with the correct specifications you need.

Cam, yeah, I don't know if a 1098cc cam from the BMC A motor, Sprite/Midget, will work or not as the E-1 is a copy of this motor. Nissan just made the E-1 a little bigger at 1189cc. I also do not know is what else Nissan changed. I know the E-1 has a six bolt flywheel while the Sprite/Midget only has 4. I have also notice other subtle difference in the BMC A motor and the E-1 through trial and error.


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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby difrangia » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:56 pm

Andy,

Lots of good info; I'm eating it up.

I believe that this is where the Mason Datsun-parts came from.

http://www.farm.net/~mason/datsun/

You may have seen this, but it has some good information and nice photos of the different model variations.

http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki ... ?title=320

And this for some parts possibly available:

http://www.manxsr.com/datsun_parts_page.htm

You seem to have a bit of experience with and access to the similar British motores. Do you know anything about using a MGA or MGB timing cover to get the modern front crank seal?

Steve

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:41 pm

Steve,

Thanks for the info and links. Datsun 1200 is a new one to me. Seen and visited Manxsr, my one '65 is pictured in front of the Canton Plant.

MBG/MGA, no have not tried these. I found my MGB and MGA catalogs (the A is in the Healey and Sunbeam catalog), and will check the part number for the 1500/1600 MGA and 1800 MGB motors. I can tell you for sure the 1098cc/1275cc seals do not work, not even the mechanical fuel pump gasket is the same. Kind of like Nissan turning there E-1 up to 11 on the volume...just a little better

Let me know if you are having issues accessing the PM/NiCo email on the User Control Panel.

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:44 pm

Steve,

Ventured down to Lenexa, KS this afternoon and can confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that the 55-62 MGA 1500/1600 and twin cam oil pan gasket and timing cover gasket are an exact fit! The side cover gasket also works, this is the gasket for the cover to the tappets/lifters. So I'll replace the pan gasket on my '64 this weekend and paint the pan at the same time.

Will post some pics to flickr tomorrow.

Think I'll head back down and size up some more parts as in the past I pretty much stuck with the Sprite/Midget parts. Let me know if you have any particular parts you would like some info on.

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby difrangia » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:02 am

Andy,
Thanks for that info. I'm really interested in if the timing cover itself for the MGA or MGB is usable in order to get the neoprene/nitrile, etc seal. I understand that the E1 has a felt seal on the front. I've acumulated pretty much all the stuff to change the water pump, thermostat, and lower hose in the next few weeks and will start to get real good acquainted with the little beast while I continue to gather goodies for a full rebuild.

When I get inside my E1 I'll be exploring an alternative rear seal (machining required). I gather from forum searching that the 'dog-turd' rope/graphite rear seal causes some people grief. I have experience with 55 Chevy 265 V8's usage of the rope seal. I have no qualms about installing the E1 rope, but might like investigating alternatives.

How ablot oil pump interchanges/sourcing? Have any leads or info on that issue? The clutch stuff & O/S piston issue look to be my biggest unknowns at this point. I've located a couple of 1.0mm O/S pistons and need two more (new or good used) to get that out of the way.

Also need to locate and acquire a windshield wiper motor.

Andy, did you get my e-mail with the toy photos? Also, I'd like the file with the full size gaskets. Thanks.

Steve

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby difrangia » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:07 am

Andy,
Forgot to add to the last mail; I'd sure like to have an E1 camshaft and pair of calipers in hand and cut loose in a British shop to do some comparing on various Britt cams for interchangability possibilities. Finding a dimensional interchange could provide the possibility of putting a little more grunt into the little E1. That's something that you might investigate if time permits.

Steve

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:32 am

Gotcha!

Gimme a few,

Andy

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Atabale » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:10 am

Sir

Please may I have a PDF copy of your gaskets for the E1 engine.

Thank you in advance

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Atabale » Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:39 pm

wow! thank you for all the hard work, I truly appreciate it!
regards

ab

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:25 pm

No problem. I have the ones for the transmission, just need to find them on the computer.
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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Parking Space » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:44 pm

Any and all gasket pdf would be helpful here too.

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Li'l Truckie » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:21 am

Parking Space,

If you will scroll through the Running on a Budget thread you will see just about every gasket and some parts, with pics, I have purchased for my '63 from Victoria British here in Lenexa, KS. These are for a 55-62 MGA and some parts from the 3 x Main Bearing early MGB will also work. For well less than $50 you can have all new engine and transmission gaskets! You can get these parts from Victoria British here in Kansas, Moss Motors out in California, or other specialty vendors on the internet or off of eBay.

Victoria British is only 40 minutes from where I live, so its easy to pop in verify part(s) fitment and either purchase it or change out for another part. I get immediate service with - no shipping, no returns, no restock fee, no waiting.

If in doubt just ask/post and I can help verify the part # and fitment for you. I'm heading down today to get a some parts and might have some breaking new for the 320 world...if the part will work.

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Re: E-1 Lower Engine Gasket Templates

Postby Parking Space » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:40 am

Thanks. This will be a great help.


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