Drivers Seat Mod?

[Di Versa Fy]

We just drove our brand new Blue S hatcback home! The dealer did a terrible job prepping the car and there's already some fine scratches in it. Otherwise I love her so far.

So I noticed that my S model driver seat has the pop out for the height adjust that is standard on the SL. Does anyone know if the parts could be ordered or aquired at a junk yard to mod the S seat to be hieght adjustable?

Also is it possible to add steering wheel audio controls from the SL to the S? Are the wires already in the wheel housing or you'd need the hwole harness?

I also bought the ARM rest from Courtesy Nissan. Has anyone else done this mod? Any instructions for it?

Finally are the headlights auto off? Is there a mod for that?

One more thing! I'll be ripping the stock stereo out and installing a Clarion DUZ385SAT Double din unit. Does anyone have any special advice other then using the instructions posted here? Also does anyone want to buy the stock unit?

Thanks
Modified by Di Versa Fy at 7:02 PM 5/14/2008

[Gr8dave37]

I would be interested in the stock unit if it's the one with the input jack. plus it depends how much you want for it.

[Di Versa Fy]

I would be interested in the stock unit if it's the one with the input jack. plus it depends how much you want for it.

The Stock unit from S models doesn't have the Input jack thus why I'm trashing it.

[Ever Victorious]

I would be interested in the stock unit if it's the one with the input jack. plus it depends how much you want for it.

He already stated that he has an S model. You're looking for the HU out of an SL.

So I noticed that my S model driver seat has the pop out for the height adjust that is standard on the SL. Does anyone know if the parts could be ordered or aquired at a junk yard to mod the S seat to be hieght adjustable?

Noone, to the best of my knowledge, has tried this. More than likely, all of the mechanisms in the lower seat pad are all one piece, so you're talking about swapping out the whole seat. Or all of the seating surfaces if you don't want to have one mismatched seat, since the S and SL use radically different fabrics.

Quote »Also is it possible to add steering wheel audio controls from the SL to the S? Are the wires already in the wheel housing or you'd need the hwole harness?[/quote]The steering wheel audio controls ONLY exist on the SL with the Convenience package. It is tied into the HU and Bluetooth systems. There is no simple swap here. Furthermore...

Quote »One more thing! I'll be ripping the stock stereo out and installing a Clarion DUZ385SAT Double din unit. Does anyone have any special advice other then using the instructions posted here? Also does anyone want to buy the stock unit?[/quote]Aftermarket stereos are NOT compatible with the OEM steering wheel audio controls on the Versa. There is no point in trying to refit the wheel controls if you are planning to change out the HU. SOME HU's are compatible with AFTERMARKET wheel-mounted control systems. You can look into that, if you'd like, but it's a dead end to look at the OEM unit.

The stock S radio is the absolute least sought after radio. It's got poor power output, no MP3 capability, and no aux input. Even your most basic sub-$100 aftermarket stereos are better. Honestly, it's a fancy paperweight.

[Mr. LS]

Aftermarket stereos are NOT compatible with the OEM steering wheel audio controls on the Versa. There is no point in trying to refit the wheel controls if you are planning to change out the HU. SOME HU's are compatible with AFTERMARKET wheel-mounted control systems. You can look into that, if you'd like, but it's a dead end to look at the OEM unit.

The stock S radio is the absolute least sought after radio. It's got poor power output, no MP3 capability, and no aux input. Even your most basic sub-$100 aftermarket stereos are better. Honestly, it's a fancy paperweight.

Actually yes they are, a company makes a module that you have to wire in to the steering wheel controls which will make the stock buttons work with an aftermarket stereo.

As for your other questions, if you get the SL seat, you could swap the seat covers, keep your stock fabric, and gain the height adjustment.

You could also add everything the SL has, but goodluck finding the harness, computers, components, etc. The car is just too new.

[reyes1212]

I want to change my seats...to some nice Sparcos

[Mr. LS]

I want to change my seats...to some nice Sparcos

why would you get rid of your side airbags for some seats that belong in a race car?

[justmerging]

Nissan only sells the front seats as an assembly which includes the lower adjuster assembly with the seat back cushion already attached. No lower cushion included. These parts from the dealer are over $1000 and it would look rediculous without a matching lower seat cusion. You'd be better off trying to get a pair of seats out of a wrecked SL for that kind of money. then at least the fronts would match.

[reyes1212]

why would you get rid of your side airbags for some seats that belong in a race car?

Because I wouldn't mind. If I get in an accident it better not be fatal lol

[Ever Victorious]

Actually yes they are, a company makes a module that you have to wire in to the steering wheel controls which will make the stock buttons work with an aftermarket stereo.

Ok, so the next thing that would be questioned... what's needed for the refit? If the controls run through the BT module (I haven't read the wiring diagrams), would it even work on a car without the convenience package?

[IMHungry]

Why didn't you just buy the SL in the first place?

[Di Versa Fy]

Why didn't you just buy the SL in the first place?

People keep saying buy the SL but let's think about that for a minute.

The S cost me 15,800, this was with a bad trade I had so I didn't get a great price. But I'm basically 700 over invoice. The SL would have been about 17,000 or more plus added tax. So what am I missing here? I bought a new stereo for $200 and an arm rest for $160. So I'm at $16000 or so now with no tax paid either since I did it online. Plus the SL costs more to insure. I don't like sunroofs and didn't care for that stereo either. All I like is the arm rest and seat. Thus why buying and SL doesn't make sense to my situation.

[biggie]

The headlights on my SL do cut off after a while of having them on with the key off. Not sure of the S model, but would assume it is the same.

As for buying the SL over the S, if you really have to have the hieght adjustment and end up having to buy a factory seat, it'll be more than the $1000 difference in the 2 models. Much less the wheels, factory stereo with wheel controls and other stuff that you'd get on an SL.

[keanucosmo]

I also bought the ARM rest from Courtesy Nissan. Has anyone else done this mod? Any instructions for it?

Remember search is your friend.

zerothread/329121

[keanucosmo]

I'm with you. I wanted cruise control on my 07, but I wasn't going to spend $2000 more on an SL to be able to get it. The only reason I would buy an SL was if I just had to have CVT, but I prefer MT.

[Mr. LS]

Why didn't you just buy the SL in the first place?

Kinda have to agree here, I mean in the long run, you think about how much are you REALLY going to end up spending here. You have steel wheels, no cruise control, no rear seat armrest, no map lights, no center armrest console, I mean you don't get A LOT of things.

Now what if later on you say as the OP is now where he wants the steering wheel controls and the SL seat. Those things alone are going to bring the cost up about $1000. What if you end up wanting some new wheels? That is another $600 or so for rims and tires give or take. I mean you are going to bring your cost RIGHT back up.

Ok, so the next thing that would be questioned... what's needed for the refit? If the controls run through the BT module (I haven't read the wiring diagrams), would it even work on a car without the convenience package?

It's a seperate brain, your controls will send the needed signals to the brain and then transfer the signal via RF to your aftermarket stereo. NOW the catch is that this module only works on stereos which accept a remote control to use on the stereo.

OR If you have enough intelligence for it, you could open up the stereo yourself, solder connections on the board, and make your own harness to the stock controls and your aftermarket stereo to control the features you want. There are endless possibilities.

You could even make your cruise control buttons control atleast the volume if anything....

http://mustangworld.com/ourpic...s.htm

[TheClevelandSound]

Y didnt u just buy an SL?

[Ever Victorious]

It's a seperate brain, your controls will send the needed signals to the brain and then transfer the signal via RF to your aftermarket stereo. NOW the catch is that this module only works on stereos which accept a remote control to use on the stereo.

perhaps I should have clarified: Getting the SL Convenience package's wheel controls to work with the STOCK stereo on an SL or S.

Kinda have to agree here, I mean in the long run, you think about how much are you REALLY going to end up spending here. You have steel wheels, no cruise control, no rear seat armrest, no map lights, no center armrest console, I mean you don't get A LOT of things.

I'm assuming that he has an '08 S, which means Cruise is available as an option. But the power package + cruise = $1000 on the S, so you're halfway to an SL with just those two options there. Even if he has only the power package, that's still $700 of the $2000 difference.

He didn't say whether he got the S with or without the power package, but I have to assume it's with, since the S w/o power package is actually quite a rare configuration.

That said, Di Versa Fy, it still doesn't change that right now, to swap your seat to have the SL adjustment, you'd either have to be incredibly lucky and find a wrecked SL in a yard, or you'd have to buy the seat(s) from your Nissan dealer.

And unless you want to put seat covers on already, or don't mind driving around with one mismatched seat on a brand new car, you'd be talking about buying ALL seating surfaces in the car to make it match. Even a junkyard would probably charge you CLOSE to $1000 for all of the seats in a wrecked V.

Though if you're willing to spend that kind of scratch, you could always get your SL seat, then have your seats re-covered by Katzkins... we gad a forum member who paid $700 to have his SL's seats recovered in leather.

[Mr. LS]

perhaps I should have clarified: Getting the SL Convenience package's wheel controls to work with the STOCK stereo on an SL or S.

I'm assuming that he has an '08 S, which means Cruise is available as an option. But the power package + cruise = $1000 on the S, so you're halfway to an SL with just those two options there. Even if he has only the power package, that's still $700 of the $2000 difference.

He didn't say whether he got the S with or without the power package, but I have to assume it's with, since the S w/o power package is actually quite a rare configuration.

That said, Di Versa Fy, it still doesn't change that right now, to swap your seat to have the SL adjustment, you'd either have to be incredibly lucky and find a wrecked SL in a yard, or you'd have to buy the seat(s) from your Nissan dealer.

And unless you want to put seat covers on already, or don't mind driving around with one mismatched seat on a brand new car, you'd be talking about buying ALL seating surfaces in the car to make it match. Even a junkyard would probably charge you CLOSE to $1000 for all of the seats in a wrecked V.

Though if you're willing to spend that kind of scratch, you could always get your SL seat, then have your seats re-covered by Katzkins... we gad a forum member who paid $700 to have his SL's seats recovered in leather.

Like I stated in the post, you would just need to open up the HU, and make solder connections, did you bother looking at the link?

Yea no matter what it makes sense to get the SL in the begining, BUT he can take the cover off of his S seat and put it on the SL seat, there is no difference in the actual COVER itself, it is in the seat bottom.

[Ever Victorious]

Like I stated in the post, you would just need to open up the HU, and make solder connections, did you bother looking at the link?

No, partially because nothing you said in your previous post mentioned anything about OEM radios... you specificially said aftermarket radio in both paragraphs.

Also, I tend not to read mustang-related forums for nissan-related information. Even though electronic stuff translates over a lot of the time.

I'm also never going to crack the case on an OEM electronics piece on any car I drive as a daily driver. Too much work, can't afford to have anything go wacky. But that's just me.

Quote »Yea no matter what it makes sense to get the SL in the begining, BUT he can take the cover off of his S seat and put it on the SL seat, there is no difference in the actual COVER itself, it is in the seat bottom.[/quote]That still requires obtaining a seat. And I don't know about where you live, but the last time I checked, newer-model car seats from junkyards are over $200 in good condition, and a lot of yards will charge $400 for a single seat in flawless or near flawless condition. This is not the kind of car you're going to be able to find in a Pull-a-Part and score a $40 seat in.

Also, changing the seat cover over isn't nearly as simple of a task as just simply swapping a seat. Perhaps my position as Mr. Pessimist annoys you, but I like to prepare people for the worst-case scenario in case, god forbid, the OP has less than your level of mad skillz yo and can't transfer the cover over himself. Remember, not everyone on this forum is 1337 m4st3r m3ch4nic like you. In fact, there are more non-mechanical people here than mechanical people... which is unusual for an automotive forum and perhaps something that will shock you personally to know.

[reyes1212]

I concur.

[illf8ed]

In fact, there are more non-mechanical people here than mechanical people... which is unusual for an automotive forum and perhaps something that will shock you personally to know.

Are you sure? maybe we should do a poll on it... seriously.

[Ever Victorious]

Are you sure? maybe we should do a poll on it... seriously.

I'd take you up on it if I seriously thought that the non-mechanical people would even bother to answer the poll.

Most of them post very rarely, and since you're still a noob, I know you wouldn't know this. Or who they are.

You're new enough that you wouldn't know that with about 100 or so Versa owners on the board, only 30 ever bother to vote for ROTQ, which is another reason that a poll would be a ridiculous way to prove it.

But hey, what do I know? I've only been here since the first wave of Versas hit the shores, and I only used to be the forum moderator. I guess I'm wrong about everything and a jackass.

[marleyfan]

I guess I'm wrong about everything and a jackass.

FINALLY !!!

jk EV

[Ever Victorious]

FINALLY !!!

jk EV

Well, I guess it wasn't that much of a secret...

[Di Versa Fy]

SL = $17405 MSRP S = $15900 MSRP

Both Automatics

Both with same options added. (Floor Mats, Spoiler, ABS, Splash Guards) (and cruise on S)

I could care less about wheels and the rear cupholders/armrest, so for me all I want from the SL is the seat adjust, center armrest, and audio controls.The stereo I bought for $200 has the ability to use factory wheel controls. The seat I can see would be a problem now that I know more but I can live without. The armrest arrived today. So for essentially $400 I've got my bit of SL bling that I need. So enough already with the should have gotten an SL crap.

[Great White Versa]

so for me all I want from the SL is the ... audio controls.

The stereo I bought for $200 has the ability to use factory wheel controls.

If you went with the S you don't have the steering wheel audio controls. If you've found a way to install those, i would love to know. That's what I wish I had (and an iKey) most.

[bikeman]

SL = $17405 MSRP S = $15900 MSRP

Both Automatics

There's quite a difference in in the transmissions. For some of us, the CVT was a major selling point.

David

[Ever Victorious]

If you went with the S you don't have the steering wheel audio controls. If you've found a way to install those, i would love to know. That's what I wish I had (and an iKey) most.

For that matter, if you went for the SL, you still don't have them unless you also got the convenience package.

Base SL's don't have wheel-mounted audio controls.

[KimberKenobi]

I guess I'm wrong about everything and a jackass.

*dies... again*

Yea...

SL = $17405 MSRP S = $15900 MSRP

Both Automatics

Both with same options added. (Floor Mats, Spoiler, ABS, Splash Guards) (and cruise on S)

I could care less about wheels and the rear cupholders/armrest, so for me all I want from the SL is the seat adjust, center armrest, and audio controls.The stereo I bought for $200 has the ability to use factory wheel controls. The seat I can see would be a problem now that I know more but I can live without. The armrest arrived today. So for essentially $400 I've got my bit of SL bling that I need. So enough already with the should have gotten an SL crap.

Okay, I'm bitting...S Hatch (manual)- Splash guards- Power package- ABS- Cruise Control- $14,900

SL Hatch (manual)- Splash guards- ABS- $16,000(already has the "power package" and the "cruise control" built in)

Difference of $1,100 and you get:- hight adjustment on driver's seat- door pockets- map lights- glasses pocket- premium fabric (lasts longer, feels nicer, looks prettier)- arm rest- nicer HU with AUX input- alloy wheels- fog lamp wiring (I believe this isn't part of another package, but just on all SLs, but I could be wrong about this one)

In your example above, the difference is really $505 once you factor that the difference between the transmissions is $1,000. Plus, you didn't add the "power package" on the S which comes standard on the SL. Essentially, your "benefit/cost analysis" is wrong.

I'm not saying you should've gotten an SL, but if you're going to do an analysis as to why one is more monetarily prudent, maybe you should take the time to know enough to do it correctly... (forgive my Aspie bluntness, but that's the best way I can state that.)

OOh... and thought about that $1,000 for the CVT... a 4-speed automatic essentially needs it's fluid changed 3 times in 100,000 miles (right, 30K, 60K, and 90K?) which is $125 each time + the cost of the fluid... (unknown) and they're saying that the CVT only needs to be changed at 100K ... Plus, it gets better mpg than the automatic for anyone who is commuting (and would likely be rolling through the miles) so some of that $1,000 may be recouped in less expense elsewhere...