Clutch question: Rb20/25 vs RB26

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
Count Zero
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Ok, question for those who might know:

I need to replace the clutch in my R32.

Looking up clutches, the ones for the RB26 are all twice as expensive as the ones for the 20/25.

But I know for a fact that people can take a 26 and put the 20/25 transmission on it without changing the clutch...

So what the hell is different?Why won't a 20/25 clutch fit onto the 26? If the transmissions are interchangeable (the 26 transmission is what was used with a 20 motor for the R32 GT-4 model), then what's different on the flywheel/crank that they'd not be the same clutch?


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Jables
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The difference between the 26 ( in most cases ) and the rest is the 26 is a pull style clutch and the earlier 20/25 and push style clutches.

A 25 flywheel will bolt right on a 26 and you can use the 25 clutch. Then if using a 25 transmission you are then converted to a push style clutch.

Hope this helps.. If not feel free to contact me anytime..

Count Zero
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I just may hit you up on that offer...I emailed SPEC via the website, but not gotten response yet.

But I'm still confused. I thought the push/pull was just on how the slave cylander either pushed or pulled the lever to press the throwout bearing against the pressure plate.If it's different all the way to the clutch and flywheel, how can you take an RB26 motor and mount a RB25 trans up to it without changing the clutch (which as I said, I've talked to guys who've done that and they said they didn't change the clutch).

Now, The R32 changed from push to pull mid year, but since I was able to swap an R33 trans into it (got one for $150 and was easier than pulling the gears out and rebuilding them), that would definitely mean I have a "standard" RB26 type, correct?

Man, I'm giving myself a headache again. :DI'll probably just give you a call tomorrow. Thanks for the offer.

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Jables
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Sorry you never received a response. sometimes the generic mail box gets overlooked i guess.

Just give me a call and we can hash it all out no problem. If you call in and use my extension number and i don't answer just leave me a message. I'll get right back to you.

Count Zero
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Hey, sorry I've not called....had to go to Canada for work, and now the holiday stuff has me all busy.

I'll call Monday and hopefully sort out all my confusion.

Thanks!

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Jables
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Sounds good to me.. I'll be back in the office bright and early monday morning!!

Count Zero
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Spiff.And I got paid more this month than I was expecting, so actually have the money for it now. (I hate end of year...I'm always broke from about mid october to mid jan)

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Late model R32 rb26 has pull clutch. most 93-94 r32, r33 and r34, these are NOT compatible with Rb20 and 25 clutches. If your r32 is a push type clutch your golden for an Rb20 and Rb25 clutch, as they are the same. I'm using an OS giken twin push made for rb20/25/26 on my 25. You'll notice they list on their site the part #'s change on late model R32's and for r33/34's for the reason I stated above.

MOST GOOD clutches for the pull transmissions like OS Giken require the pull to push conversion kit hence the higher price.

Here is a PUSH r32 GTR clutch. Check your car.http://www.skylinesaustralia.c...da572

Good GTR information, and a good site you should visit-> GTRCanada.com


Modified by Zacho2 at 8:47 PM 11/29/2009

Count Zero
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It's a 1990. And it's definitely a push-type. I know that much.

Hrm. So I might be able to save some money? I like the sound of this.

Wait, does this mean that a VG30DETT clutch would work as well? Or are they different flywheels?
Modified by Count Zero at 10:53 PM 11/29/2009

Zacho2
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You're in luck then. Feel free to use an N/A Z32 clutch as well if you are PUSH. ACT offers a whack of N/A Z32 clutches that will work great.

Count Zero
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This makes me happy.....though I'm tempted to pull the trans off before buying anything, just to make sure.

Gavin Johnson
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im happy with my act 6 puck for an rb20, since were aloud to have them in canada the auto parts stores stock them in theyre warehouse :D

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Jables
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It was a pleasure speaking with ya Count Zero.. Let me know when you get the unit in the car!!! And ill shoot you some other information here shortly!

Count Zero
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Big thanks to Jables here for getting me hooked up with just the right set up I need.....should have it installed by next week (depending on when my friend with the garage can help me do it).

I'll make sure to snap some pictures as we work.
Modified by Count Zero at 4:10 PM 11/30/2009

Count Zero
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Xmas came early:

Can't wait to get it in and see how she runs with it.

Count Zero
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Dredging up this old thread, because...well, I wanted to. :P

I've now had the above clutch in my car for a solid 6 months, and lots of playing on the highways and even a couple or so short drift events.
Just gotta say, it kicks a**. NO slippage at all, even when I intentionally rev it as I shift to get a nice 4wd scratch in 2nd and even 3rd.
Clutch kicks are solid, but smooth.
Pedal play is the same: solid, but smooth. Doesn't even kill my leg the few times I got stuck in "rush hour" traffic.

Jables definitely hooked me up with a quality product here. Will be looking to them when I need a new clutch for my Driftstang in the future. (it's a dedicated drifting car, so you KNOW I'll be needing a clutch sooner rather than later) :D

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I would be scared if I got a 4wd scratch when I shifted lol. AWD trannies are too scary.

amorasin
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Which SPEC clutch is that? I'm about ready to order a clutch for my rb20, either something like yours or an OEM unit and need a little more confidence booster before i go forth.


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