cheap exhaust alternative for 2.5ers

[chiapetchua01]

hey guysso hussain and me met up today to unbolt my exhaust from behind the resonator to create a "straight pipe" effectso I tried it aaaaand i wanted to kill myself loli drove 40 miles iwth it unbolted on the freeway and my god, my ears hurt so bad jesus it was brutally loud

so when i got back to my apartment, I decided to bolt it back up and hussain gave me the idea of leaving a little space. So I left a little space of about maybe 1/4in or so nice burble when i turn on my car and all the way to 2.5k revs where my intake takes over in noise

So consier it guyscheap alternative takes about 5-10 minutes or so

[08Coupe]

It's really a RedNeck Mod But if your going to do that use washers and TIGHTEN the bolts so your exhaust doesn't fall apart! It ranks right up there with punching holes in the muffler with a screwdriver

[BlackMetal]

why would anyone do this??? why would you drive around with a created leak?if ya can`t do it right don`t do it at all. It`s ghetto, and car people can tell the difference, not so sure you`d get the thumbs up as you drove by...

besides do you want carbon monoxide, etc etc possibly getting inside...

dumb move IMO...

[chiapetchua01]

gotchathanks for advice guysi guess i'll bolt it back up

[Hussain]

why would anyone do this??? why would you drive around with a created leak?if ya can`t do it right don`t do it at all. It`s ghetto, and car people can tell the difference, not so sure you`d get the thumbs up as you drove by...

besides do you want carbon monoxide, etc etc possibly getting inside...

dumb move IMO...

car guys would hear the difference and you wouldnt get the thumbs up as you drove by? no, that statement is wrong. i've had an electronic exhaust cut-out on my car for quite a while so i have a switched mounted in the car and when i press the switch a valve opens up and bypasses the exhaust and 3rd cat... the only reactions i've ever gotten were or oh ya and several of these from car people on the streets AND AT THE TRACK. have you ever even heard it before?

[Hussain]

i agree with 08coupe though, it would be a good idea to put some washers in there and tighten it up.... as for people not liking it, as long as you like the way it sounds, thats all that matters.

[chiapetchua01]

thanks manthe hardest part with the washer is i don't know if i have the strength to wedge it that openi'll give it a shot next week

you going to be in davis anytime soona gain man? After next week or 2 weeks or so, should have eibachs, my custom shift boot, led, and new brakes on.

[BlackMetal]

car guys would hear the difference and you wouldnt get the thumbs up as you drove by? no, that statement is wrong. i've had an electronic exhaust cut-out on my car for quite a while so i have a switched mounted in the car and when i press the switch a valve opens up and bypasses the exhaust and 3rd cat... the only reactions i've ever gotten were or oh ya and several of these from car people on the streets AND AT THE TRACK. have you ever even heard it before?

whatever floats your boat man... it is still a created leak, it ghetto and your prolly young...

the track is one thing, back in the day we just dropped the exhaust at the headers, no big deal.

not to start a bash fest, but the people giving you the thumbs up prolly didn`t KNOW how it was done... remember how s***ty a blown header gasket sounds like, same principal here... just more of an open space and I don`t need to hear it, bc I will be installing an exhaust the correct way... to each his own... and FYI I`ve been in motorsports for over 30+ years... and I have a different hand gesture when it comes to half a** mods or repair work.

understand your cut-outs, we had cable operated back when... or just a Y at the header collector with a BO plate...

seriously, not busting your stones, but adding washers to open the pipe and cruise around on the street all the time is just wrong...
Modified by BlackMetal at 10:19 PM 9/19/2009

[chiapetchua01]

its fine to each his owni'll leave it for a few days then make a decision

[BlackMetal]

LOL, reminds me of the high school days when people drilled holes in their mufflers...LOL...

[Hussain]

theirs a couple things wrong with what you said. first off, i'm probably young? you do realize that Jeff Gordon has cut-outs on one of his cars and i wouldnt consider him young. Also, go look up the chevy project X.... its a 1957 i believe and its been their project car that they've been modding from then till now and it has electronic exhaust cut-outs and i wouldn't consider them young either.... also these two statements contradict each other

if ya can`t do it right don`t do it at all. It`s ghetto, and car people can tell the difference, not so sure you`d get the thumbs up as you drove by...

the people giving you the thumbs up prolly didn`t KNOW how it was done...

also, i do have a legit exhaust set-up, 2.5" cat-back exhaust with a magnaflow muffler and quad tips....

define "ghetto"? modifying it to sound a particular way is customizing it. if thats considered ghetto then most members on this forum are guilty of it.

[BlackMetal]

hahahahahahahahahahaha, C`mon now, lets be realistic here. Ghetto = the way it it modified, created leak... and yes young... cup drivers have nothing to do with this... I have seen exhaust shops conjure up their own cut outs before you were born... and my friends before I was born, and before they even hit the market... Ideas are good, conversation about them is good, and trial and error on mods is good. just my opinion about spacing with washers is , well my opinion and it`s just not the way to do things... understand...

no need for anymore explanation, we are noyt going to agree on this...it`s about the space in the joint, not about YOUR car with YOUR exhaust mods...

[Hussain]

lol ok, we can just agree to disagree, we just have different opinions and thats fine.... on a side note,

i'm not trying to bash the 2.5's in anyway, they're fast and good on gas and everything but ive never heard a good exhaust on a 2.5s. Aaron wanted to go straight piped and i suggested unbolting the exhaust to sort of get a feel for straight piped before actually doing it (a free way of testing it out). he hated the loud drone his whole way home and wanted to bolt it back up.... the 2.5s has a resonator and muffler (3.5se doesnt have a resonator) so for the 2.5s i think would sound best with just a resonator, no exhaust... no resonator or exhaust makes it a little too loud but just no muffler may be perfect.....

[BlackMetal]

lol ok, we can just agree to disagree, we just have different opinions and thats fine.... on a side note,

i'm not trying to bash the 2.5's in anyway, they're fast and good on gas and everything but ive never heard a good exhaust on a 2.5s. Aaron wanted to go straight piped and i suggested unbolting the exhaust to sort of get a feel for straight piped before actually doing it (a free way of testing it out). he hated the loud drone his whole way home and wanted to bolt it back up.... the 2.5s has a resonator and muffler (3.5se doesnt have a resonator) so for the 2.5s i think would sound best with just a resonator, no exhaust... no resonator or exhaust makes it a little too loud but just no muffler may be perfect.....

I can agree with you here to one extent bc I don`t have experience with the 2.5 exhaust tone yet, and thats why I`m reading all these threads concerning such.

now that explanation would have shortened the discussion quite a bit as it was being done as a test.

I once had a 98 Ford ranger, 2.5 L 5 spd, decided to split the exhaust using a dual outlet Flowmaster 50 series ( I think, can`t remember) and dual tails and tips,,, wow did it sound like crap...even going thru the gears sounded like crap, to me, but when I sold the truck, I saw the owner several years later and the truck remains the same, same appearance with cap and same exhaust, so somebody did like it...

my inquiry into the exhaust for the 2.5 is bc I can not hear the car, I`m watching the tach and feeling the car for shifts. unlike the days of the old school rides where I heard and felt the torque of the larger V8`s without really watching the tach until it was necc.

on a side note* before the "X" pipe became popular with the Mustang crowd, ei: bassani etc. My good friend had custom made an X pipe for my 466 BB Torino Sport, several with different approach and exit angles to optimize the exhaust pulse/scavenging to suit the torque curve, cam, converter, gearing, engine rpm`s etc blah blah blah, end result was axle pinion gear/spider gear shaft breaking torque. those tests cost me a whole third member set-up...

[Throckmorton]

Chiapetchua01 “its fine to each his own i'll leave it for a few days then make a decision ‘

This might help you in your decision: California Vehicle Code Division 12 - Equipment of Vehicles Article 2 § § 27150-27158.5 Exhaust Systems http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/tocd12c5a2.htm

Adequate Muffler Required 27150. (a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.

Modification of Exhaust Systems 27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system so modified.

Hussain “also, i do have a legit exhaust set-up, 2.5" cat-back exhaust with a magnaflow muffler and quad tips.…”

I hate to burst your bubble, but you do not have a CA legal exhaust system. You know this from this thread:

8-05-09 http://forums.altimas.org/zerothread?id=440813

[Hussain]

sorry, California slang lol i didnt mean legit as in legal, i meant legit as in an actual exhaust system... California slang, sometimes we say that. by legit exhaust i meant a actual full exhaust system... plus i disconnected the wire to my cut-out and soon will take it off of the car and have a legal exhaust system... reason for taking it off, it got stuck open on me lol had to manually close it.... it works now but just dont want the hassle of it someday staying open again....

I once had a 98 Ford ranger, 2.5 L 5 spd, decided to split the exhaust using a dual outlet Flowmaster 50 series ( I think, can`t remember) and dual tails and tips,,, wow did it sound like crap...even going thru the gears sounded like crap, to me, but when I sold the truck, I saw the owner several years later and the truck remains the same, same appearance with cap and same exhaust, so somebody did like it...

my inquiry into the exhaust for the 2.5 is bc I can not hear the car, I`m watching the tach and feeling the car for shifts. unlike the days of the old school rides where I heard and felt the torque of the larger V8`s without really watching the tach until it was necc.

My good friend had custom made an X pipe for my 466 BB Torino Sport,

ya i know what you mean, different people like different sounds... were you going to go with a custom exhaust or Stillen, Artisan, Greddy, etc? i LOVE MAGNAFLOW and the artisan exhaust uses a magnaflow muffler (i think a magnapack) but it doesnt have the sound i like (again, some people may). i've heard some nice custom Borla exhaust on the 02-06 2.5s altimas on youtube. if you decide to go custom exhaust, you should try listening to some of those clips.

oh and got any pics of the Torino? sounds sweet.