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eastslider
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i need help with my ca18. i will get u up to speed with my project. i have a problem. i put a sr20det igniter chip inside and im not too sure i have it wired right. but i looked at my friends sr harness and i wrote the colors down. then i looked on the internet for the ca18 ignitor wire colors. then i matched um together. but it runs like **** it starts and stumbles at around 350-500 rpm then dies. and it will only start when i put gas into the intake mani. and i just switched 2 wires on the ignitor because i think its wrong and it was the 1 and 2 spark plug wires. will that make a difference? and should the ecu pin outs be 1pin-1coil--red2pin-2coil--red/yellow3pin-3coil--red/green11pin-4coil--red/lavender by ecu connection and blue by ignitor ??? and i have still to start it with the coil wires switched. and im not too sure if my injectors is working properly i took them off too but im not to sure on how to test them. because when i crank it after i took the spark plugs off to test for spark it never smelt like gas. ugg i hope the remedy is to just clean the injectors. and by the way this is a fresh engine swap so i dont have any prior history on it.. man i am just at awww right now about this because i was so stoked to drive turbo and go slide with so much more power and yeah can someone help me out if a lot of people are willing to help out on here i will post up a vid of my struggling solder.


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eastslider wrote:i need help with my ca18. i will get u up to speed with my project. i have a problem. i put a sr20det igniter chip inside and im not too sure i have it wired right. but i looked at my friends sr harness and i wrote the colors down. then i looked on the internet for the ca18 ignitor wire colors. then i matched um together. but it runs like **** it starts and stumbles at around 350-500 rpm then dies. and it will only start when i put gas into the intake mani. and i just switched 2 wires on the ignitor because i think its wrong and it was the 1 and 2 spark plug wires. will that make a difference? and should the ecu pin outs be 1pin-1coil--red2pin-2coil--red/yellow3pin-3coil--red/green11pin-4coil--red/lavender by ecu connection and blue by ignitor ??? and i have still to start it with the coil wires switched. and im not too sure if my injectors is working properly i took them off too but im not to sure on how to test them. because when i crank it after i took the spark plugs off to test for spark it never smelt like gas. ugg i hope the remedy is to just clean the injectors. and by the way this is a fresh engine swap so i dont have any prior history on it.. man i am just at awww right now about this because i was so stoked to drive turbo and go slide with so much more power and yeah can someone help me out if a lot of people are willing to help out on here i will post up a vid of my struggling solder.
Are you sure you got your injector plugs on the right injector? Sounds like you have the plugs crossed. As for the power transistor, why didn't you use the one for a CA. They go for less than$100 and there are plenty of them. My suggestion is to not play with that SR thing before you mess-up something. Be patient and do it right the first time. But definitely check the injector plug location because it sounds as if you've put two of them on the wrong injectors. Good luck...............

Dee

eastslider
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can someone help me with this?? does anyone know how to wire in a sr20det ignitor chip into the ca18det wire harness? this is so crazy there is no info on the on the internet. i would have thought that peps know how to do this.. i guess it is impossible cuz with all the info i collected looking at my harness looking at the sr pin outs looking at the ca pin outs i cant find anything on making it run... all i can hear is a piston fire like 3 times then thats it it just cranks. i should have just bought a sr20det......way more info

bentvalves
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Its doable because I remember wiring a ca18det igniter into my buddies SR powered s13.

eastslider
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ks13 wrote:Its doable because I remember wiring a ca18det igniter into my buddies SR powered s13.
do u know the color of the wires? i know the colors that go to the ignitor form my friends sr20 harness. what color wires go to the color wires to the ignitor and then to the coil packs?

bentvalves
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the colors I do not recall man sorry : /

eastslider
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can someone please help me??? i dont know already ...

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Nunook
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ok just to make sure the ignitor is good:

you have the side with 4 pins and the side 5 pins.A) if u check continuity with the positive lead on the middle of the 5 pins side:- with the negative on any of the 4pin side should NOT have continuity.- with the negative on any of the other pins in the 5pin side you should have continuity.

B) if you put the positive lead on the first pin in the 4 pin side and the negative on the first pin in the 5 pin side you Should have continuity.(same for second pin, etc...)

If you switch the leads(negative lead on the 4 pin side) then you should NOT have continuity.

That should be good enough to test the ignitor. There is more, but this is all taken from the manual. Atleast from there you will know if the ignitor is good. Ill try to figure out the wiring from the two fsm and post it up in alittle.

eastslider
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i dont know how to check for that.. and the ignitor is good because i just bought it and it sparks all 4 but it never came with clips so i made my own connectors and i dont know what connector goes where. because there are 4 pins on the sr20det ignitor on one side and 5 on the other. so i think i have them in the wrong way thats why it is not starting. and there is fuel it is starting to come out of the the turbo exhaust elbow. can some one help me resolve this problem. i dont know if the spark plags are at the right cylinder. do i damage the engine like this? if the spark is just off in the rotation? not the timing belt? help

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eastslider wrote:can someone help me with this?? does anyone know how to wire in a sr20det ignitor chip into the ca18det wire harness? this is so crazy there is no info on the on the internet. i would have thought that peps know how to do this.. i guess it is impossible cuz with all the info i collected looking at my harness looking at the sr pin outs looking at the ca pin outs i cant find anything on making it run... all i can hear is a piston fire like 3 times then thats it it just cranks. i should have just bought a sr20det......way more info
reason why theres no info is because we do things right and get the correct ignitor. Good luck with yours though, if you look a few posts down there is a guy selling 4-5 ignitors for like 30-50 bucks.

eastslider
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great thats for the insight

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Nunook
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ok so far i have:

ON FOUR pin side:pin 1 - coil 1 - R/Lpin 2 - coil 2 - R/Wpin 3 - coil 3 - Rpin 4 - coil 4 - R/G

ON Five pin side:pin 1 - ign 4 - R/Lpin 2 - ign 3 - R/Gpin 3 - middle is Black - ground.pin 4 - ign 2 - R/Ypin 5 - ign 1 - R/W

all these is with tab on top from left to right. Also does it make a difference if its s13 sr or s14? if you had the plugs it seems to be color for color.

eastslider
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hi thank you all for putting ur 2 cents i looked at my friends ignitor chip wiring on his sr and color matched them the red and lavender stripe wire is the red and blue wire on the sr and the red and yellow wire is the red and brown on a sr and i needed to get a injector resistor. i grabbed 4 10v 10 ohm resistor wired all 4 together on one side and that side connects to the red wire and the rest of the 4 wires " yellow,green.blue,white go to the otherside no order required. yep so my injectors wernt firing too but i just need a maf i am using a e60 maf and it runs like **** i cant even drive it it bogs down.. my friend is gonna give me a sohc maf. and i hope that solves the problem if not then ull see me posted up..........peace


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