Brake Pads (video inside)

Post by **maxpower** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

KVR Carbons vs. Axxis Metal

please post the following:

-brand/composite of your brake pads-price/value-YOUR quick comparison to oem factory pads

video coming soon...

-----------------------------------Being the naive and 15 yeard old kid that I am, while street racing the other day I was in a situation where I had to break quickly from 95mph to about ~50 because of a handicaped driver in a v8 suv, and noticed my oem breaks weren't very effective (they are also worn).

Now, I am not looking for a caliper/rotor upgrade.many are stating that the Axxis metal pads need to be *warmed up* to reach optimum performance levels - eh?The KVR carbon kevlar pads seem like the practical solution for my street racing setup (5-lug. SE, factory wheels/rotors).

Also, why are there different pads set aside for ABS-equipped cars.

Post by **Nathan** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

You probably wont get much help...this forum is against street racing for the most part. As for me, I have no advice for you, sorry!

Post by **maxpower** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

EDIT

the street racing insert was placed in refrence to a previous thread on the subject, which was later locked due to the totalitarian nature of one of the moderators.

Now, lets stay on topic please...

Post by **SeVa-S13** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

Yeah....so you're only 15 *and* street racing? :thinker

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

rarely will you find a pad/rotor combo that'll stop you in fewer feet then OEM. The cross drilled madness (mostly) helps with long term racing and extreme brake temps. Helps combat brake fade which is the biggest brake problem in racing.

Are you allowed to drive at 15 in Philly?

Post by **Phax** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

maxpower wrote: Being the naive and 15 yeard old kid that I am, while street racing the other day I was in a situation where I had to break quickly from 95mph to about ~50 because of a handicaped driver in a v8 suv, and noticed my oem breaks weren't very effective (they are also worn).

I'd like to submit for everyone's consideration that the only handicaped person in this situation is the mentally handicaped individual who started this thread in the first place. Max, I seriously pray that you wreck your car into a light-pole sometime soon and save a family the anguish of dealing with the fallout from your ignorant stupidity.

Post by **maxpower** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

there's no PM here nor is there a complaint forum..so let me say this..

phax, shutup. kthx

learn to read (english text is read top-bottom). not only does my first post indicate I was using a bit of teh funny, or atleast trying to, but I REPLIED to confirm this.

anyways, doesn't anybody care about the quality of their break pads? not just performance...there's also break dust, rotor warp and a few other things that come into play...

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

maxpower wrote:anyways, doesn't anybody care about the quality of their break pads? not just performance...there's also break dust, rotor warp and a few other things that come into play...

Anybody that cares about their own safety should care about the quality of their BRAKE pads. But how does brake dust file in under quality? That's more of an annoyance and at most a cosmetic problem. And rotor warp isn't from your pads it's from improperly torqued lugs or they came into contact with water at high temps or haven't been turned in a while. There's many many threads here on NICO about brake fluid, pads, rotors, heat soak...blah blah blah that can help you keep your brakes performing at max potential. Search.

Regardless, what are you asking?

Post by **maxpower** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

Mayhem_J30 wrote:Anybody that cares about their own safety should care about the quality of their BRAKE pads. But how does brake dust file in under quality? That's more of an annoyance and at most a cosmetic problem. And rotor warp isn't from your pads it's from improperly torqued lugs or they came into contact with water at high temps or haven't been turned in a while. There's many many threads here on NICO about brake fluid, pads, rotors, heat soak...blah blah blah that can help you keep your brakes performing at max potential. Search.

there are different type of pads. ceramic and carbon just to list a few...they heat up at different rates and release dust based on whatever they are made out of...why are you going off on this? i want to keep my wheels clear, so cosmetics AND performance are both important

if nico was the easiest and most organized place to search, then there would be no need for posting, right? forums exist for a reason...i made this thread hoping to get a general idea of what pads EVERYONE is using; sort of like a survey...instead phax the preacherman came along.

Mayhem_J30 wrote:Regardless, what are you asking?

read my post. i asked to reply with what pads you have and how much you paid for them. also, there was a question about ABS specific pads.

Post by **fiznat** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

ah comeon guys give him a break. it's an honest enough question.

I dont know much about breaks in general, but I know a friend of mine got some special pads with these metal shavings in them (for longevity, I assume), and now they squeak all the time. Not a really loud squeek like the sound the squeal plates make, but more of a long, dull, annoying squeal. Just a warning- cause he took it to a mechanic and they just said it's the pads and you cant do anything about it. OEM should be fine, as long as you take good care of them and you dont do anything stupid.

Post by **Infamous** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

wow, i feel so old, and i dont even have my permit

Post by **Cloudedone** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

OK man break time huh? well brake pads and rotors only don't really help shorten your breaking distance by much, they make it so you can brake longer before hitting brake fade. (you know when you are stopping quickly allot of times in a row, when the break pedal goes all the way to the floor and nothing really happens? thats break fade) If you wanna fix that, get some crossdrilled or slotted rotors, or both and some good hi-perf brake pads... I Personally still have stock, but am planning on getting EBC after my 300zx brake upgrade.

if you wanna shorten your 60-0 or 100-0 times, upgrading your rotor size and # of pistons per caliper fixes that. look into the 300zx upgrade (there is ALLOT of info already on this one, search and you should find most of it) or check out the brake upgrades available at http://www.stillen.com.

I wont pick on you for street racing or being 15, but i will say that you need to remember your asking a QUESTION, which means you need someone else's help so making your question polite and not making it sound like an order is a big step in the correct dirrection for next time.

-Galen

Post by **maxpower** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

thanks for your reply and info on brake fade.

I am not looking for a caliper/rotor (z32) upgrade at this time, just a decent set of pads.

woudl you explain the difference between Axxis metal or ceramic pads and KVR carbon pads?

Post by **Cloudedone** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

there are too many types of metalic/semi metalic/carbon/ceramic type of pad's to talk all about them, i know there are big diferences between them though.

A Car enthusist wants to make a desicision for him/herself, i say give me what to research, and i'll research it myself. Pick what works for you, its your car, put in the wrench and research time youself... you'll feel that much better about it when your done.

So, what you should research is what you already stated, the pad, research on the developers site, car mag's sites, yahoo.com, find the FACTS, not OPINIONS, find what each pad is made of, then find out which type of metal is best, make phone calls to company's and ask questions... but most of all, make the desicsion yourself.

-Galen

Post by **yellwmonky** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

[quote=" maxpower learn to read (english test is read top-bottom). [/quote]

DAMN!! And all this time i was reading from left to right !!! :help

Post by **Infamous** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

ceramic pads nearly stop (bot not 100%) of all brake dust, so if you find yourself cleaning your rims (caps?) everytime, it might be a good idea

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:27 am

ceramic pads should only be used with ceramic treated rotors, period. a ceramic pad will not take any of the head made by the frictional force, leaving all that heat into the rotor, usually leaving heat spots at best, and cracks and warping at worst.

Im dead serious. I put 4 sets of ceramic pads on different cars(ford expedition, supra, 300ZX and a integra) and every one of the cars came back later with heat spots on the rotors. UNless your rotor is cooled very well, avoid a ceramic pad.

typically, you can use a itanium rotor with a ceramic surface and a ceramic pad..but that gets expensive.

-chet

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