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z.Leinbach
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So as of now I am currently shopping around for miscellaneous stuff lil things before I go all out on a jdm engine or a US spec engine if there is a difference first off.

Clutches: What yeilds the best durability, and can handle good amount of thrashing?? Gonna be one of my first upgrades because it's gonna be needed in the future.. (coming up on first winter with a standard :/ )

Ignition. How can it be upgraded. Not familiar with the coil on plug set up?

Brakes of course. Do the TT's have a stronger master cylinder and booster?? Or is that the same as well. And can the OEM calipers handle the "stage 5" hp?

Next engine itself. Should I go with a newer engine from lets say a 96 or 97?? Or OEM year??

And then as a dream build if can be done and I know some will ask why. But small quad turbo.. Why?? Minimal lag and lets of power instantly.. Well at least that's the idea


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1. US and JDM engines are exactly the same in terms of mechanical components and Upgrades.
2. There are a few clutches out there that are good, clutches are generally rated by torque handling capacity, let us know what torque you are looking to put down and we can make some recommendations.
3. Ignition upgrades aren't really needed on these cars unless you are knocking on 4 digits, main thing to make sure is that you have the phase 2 PTU installed, this was a recall back in the day but some of the older cars still run the old aluminum ones. if you have the black plastic one then the only thing left to do is to get rid of the harness, this procedure is covered along with many others in the "everything you need to know" sticky. Also I have seen a few people convert to VW Coils, there is a thread with the full write up hosted here on NICO as well.
4. brakes between the TT and NA are the same with exception of the 90 NAs which had thinner rotors. Uprgades of different levels are available from using 3000gt rotors and extension brackets for the front calipers to full aftermarket systems. a popular though very heavy upgrade is using the 350z akebonos.
5. The engines available in North America ended after 96, the 96 is arguably the "worst" engine as they did away with variable valve timing and lost power. The best engines readily available on this continent are the 94 and 95s because they has all the updated phase 2 parts and retained the Variable valve Timing System.
6. Good luck finding space under the hood for 4 turbos, the 2 stockers barely fit.

z.Leinbach
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At this current point in time I can't really decide weather if i really want to boost it or build a ripping high revs NA 6cylinder. :/ to many decisions an what not.

What year of injectors are best to handle the ethanol?

nissanfreak12
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with an NA, you will not get the power you can out of a TT. You can build a high rev NA, but will be very disappointed and spend a ton of money.

One thing you can do instead of quad turbo, which I agree with nolimit, supercharge and TT. the SC will take care of the low RPMS an the turbos will finish up the high so you can have large turbos and minimal lag. The honest question is, how fast do you want to go and how much money do you have?

cheap, fast, reliable, you can only pick 2.

z.Leinbach
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Where would the SC even go??? Haha there's absolutely no good clearance??

If I were to use the NA block where do I start with the little things?? Injectors an so on?? Or would a swapped TT

z.Leinbach
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The only thing I know of twin charging is be very careful as of to much whine and spool Can mean kaboom.

Would it be more cost effective to swap a TT engine or rebuild the NA block for it??

nissanfreak12
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SC would go in place of the plenum. Its been done, completely custom.

Cost effective, TT swap. But if your concerned about money, keep it NA till you have about 8k saved up. Or buy a TT already. When I did my swap, it cost roughly 6-7k, all the work myself. That also included a 5 speed swap with a good friend giving me a deal on a TT/5 speed stuff.Things kept coming up. Do it once, do it right.

z.Leinbach
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Why so much?? I've been checking around on eBay and there are various "crates" for 1600- 2400.

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Because there is always stuff you need to replace. Those "crates" are more than likely JDM engines. Bare minimum you would need is a 120k kit, new seals, Possibly new oil pan, oil pump, random hoses. new ecu, I would highly suggest a new harness since the engine is going to be out. New clutch, resurfaced flywheel or new one, etc.

Yes, you can get "crates" for relatively cheap but you have to remember those kids over the ocean like to beat the hell out of their engines because they know they have to get rid of them. Turbos will more than likely be blown, so those will have to be replaced. When you have the engine out, things happen and you find things to either replace or upgrade. I got my engine and trans for 1500 for everything, and it still ended up costing me 6-7k. Intercoolers were bad, turbos were bad, ecu needed to be reprogrammed, harness was garbage, etc. I was always told to give yourself a budget or goal, then double it. You will without think of it.

Now if you have a shop do the swap, you are easily looking at 10k+, might as well buy a TT car already, especially if it is a 2+0.

z.Leinbach
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Ohh ok. That makes sense, at this point i will be in the build and car pay off for the price of a unmolested TT hah, basically a swap would get me a faster accelerated TT for the same price??

nissanfreak12
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Yes and no.

Depends what or if you mod anything. One thing it will get you is knowing that all the maintenance is done, what work was done and if something breaks, its only your fault to blame. I wouldn't say same price, because in some places you can get a TT for very cheap, some very expensive all dependent on condition. If you do a swap say in a 2+2, convertable or slick top, it would be unique(for the most part) in the states, since they didnt come from the factory in the states as a TT. Truthfully, that would be the only real benefit in swapping a TT engine in a 2+0, unless you have some sort of sentimental attachment.

z.Leinbach
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No sentiment attachment, picked it over a VR4 3Kgt, haha, car I have is a NA 2+0 137,xxx miles needs some work naturally, actuator for the climate control so the air vents all work, door panel, seat, maintenance, and a new paint job (neighborhood rug rats like to run and fall into it with their bikes) but I'm gonna get her cought up on maintenance and little things before I devote to NA build, or TT swap.

What injectors would be best for ethanol?? I might have a couple on the way out... Been getting around 275miles to a FULL tank

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The best injectors, new style was designed to handle ethanol better. Just get the stock ones, no reason to get anything larger.

z.Leinbach
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Oh ok. Well on the matter of Twin turbos at work I put a bug in the ear of one of the sales guys to keep an eye out for an unmolested less then 160k 5 speed twin turbo version. So hopefully by the time I've paid more off on my Z I'll have one found by the new year or something like that lol

z.Leinbach
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Well to update this. I haven't found a TT but have found a jdm block and manual trans (awaits eye rolls and stoning), as well as a front clip all for around 4k with shipping and handling. And yes I'll be going through the engine for new seals and turbos. But the front clip will be the first thing to get unless I can fit a front mount behind the bumper with out alot of chopping


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