BMW 135i vs G35/G37

[gwoods]

Okay the 335i vs G35/37 comparison has been done to death. What do you think about this match up BMW 135I Vs G35/37

The 135 is about the same price as a new G35/37 is lighter and makes more torque. I think this 135I is the car to watch out for from BMW. It isn't out until spring 08. It looks like it only comes as a 2 door coupe. The motor is the same factory restricted inline 6 with 2 turbos (and hopefully an oil cooler) that the 335i comes with. It will have a 6 speed manual or auto-stick.

I am going to go test drive this car as soon as it is out!

http://www.automobilemag.com/r....html

Jeff
Modified by gwoods at 11:47 AM 12/9/2007

[vortechg35]

Looks like a nice car but i hate the color they chose to promote the car.

[gwoods]

Yeah I'm not a big fan of red cars.

Silver and tan are my fav... I live in the desert my car is dusty seconds after its washed.

Jeff

[zozoka1212]

Nice pocket rocket but the interior still as boring as it was 5 years ago.

IMO if you buy a cheaper STI or evo you can have the same result for less money.

It is a downgrade from the g to 135i.

zozo

[joe603]

It's still an ugly BMW! I don't care if it had a sub 4 second 0-60...I eventually have to park the thing and look at it!

[Beancooker]

It's still an ugly BMW! I don't care if it had a sub 4 second 0-60...I eventually have to park the thing and look at it!

Thanks, I needed a good laugh...

[Kendahl]

If this were 2008 instead of 2007, a 128i coupe would have been on my short list. Its advantages over the 328i are that it's smaller and lighter. I wish it left out the luxury power accessories so that it would weigh under 3,000 pounds and cost about $25k.

A long time ago, I had a 1973 BMW 2002. It had power brakes only; everything else was manual. Since it weighed only about 2,300 pounds, performance with a 100 hp engine was quite good. Despite BMW's marketing pitch, the 1-series is not a reincarnation of the 2002. It's more like the 325 from 1992 to 1995.

I agree that there are cars which are great to drive but so ugly you need to be led to them blindfolded. The 1-series isn't that bad but it's nowhere near as good looking as the 3-series from 1992 to 2004.

In the end, I think the things that turned me against the 328i would do the same for a 128i. They are the run-flat tires, difficulty in finding manual transmission cars and the high cost of maintenance after the warranty expires.

[abdoman]

Your right - it's too bad it's so heavy. I was really hoping for a light weight car.

[gwoods]

I'm going to go drive it anyway!

The BMW dealership is right across the street of the Infiniti dealership in South Scottsdale.

I wish the G35 got 295 lb of torque damn BMW with their straight 6 torque monster! I can't beleive the tiny power output from a car with 2 turbo chargers ?

Obviously BMW is protecting the M3's market share.

I ran into a guy at the dry cleaners last week. He starts chatting me up about the G35 I'm driving. During the conversation he asked me what I would change about it... I said 50lbs more torque from idle and 300lbs less weight. Turned out he was the finance manager at one of the dealerships LOL.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

I want a Twin Turbo G35 6MT 07 Sedan Loaded With 450+ HP and 500+ lb of torque! lol

I want it to look stock so that no one will know it is a turbo

BMW's are Nice Cars But I really think it is their owners that are F***ed upThey think they are driving the best car and they arn't. not even close to being better built then any Lexus or Infiniti

Japan has them Germans Beat!

DJ

[Johnl135I]

Ok, lets open this debate. Based on the looks of the car, to each there own. I personally like the 135I. I also like the G37. I respect other cars and owners, but to call a 135I ugly... I'm not seeing it.

Ok, now lets talk performance numbers. This is a one sided debate as of this time. We have no firm numbers on what the 135I will do, just BMW estimates of 0-60 in 5.1 seconds. Now, based on this video from youtube, youtube.com/watch?v=aK8_DkEmLyo The 335I outperformed the G37. This G37 did perform better in the slalom, but it lost in 1/4 mile and 0-60.

Based on those numbers I believe the 135I lill edge out the 335I slightly, thus also beating out a G37.

[Johnl135I]

I want a Twin Turbo G35 6MT 07 Sedan Loaded With 450+ HP and 500+ lb of torque! lol

BMW's are Nice Cars But I really think it is their owners that are F***ed upThey think they are driving the best car and they arn't.

DJ

Whats wrong with an owner thinking his car is the best? As of right now I bet you think your car is the best? But with your statement your saying all BMW owners are F#### up. This is so untrue and very bias. We all meet other drivers of cars, example, an EVO driver who may be a jackass.... we'll not all Evo drivers are jackasses. Just because I meet one bad apple, does not believe all others are.

[gwoods]

About 1/2 the BMW owners I meet thing they have the best car in the world. thats why they paid the extra $6,000 for it over an Infiniti.

Here in Phoenix most of the A holes all have a H in a box on the back of their rides.

I think the 135I has great potential and I will test drive it when it is out. If it is better bang for the buck and I can live with the size I may trade my G.... I really really really LOVE my G35 though.

Jeff

[Johnl135I]

About 1/2 the BMW owners I meet thing they have the best car in the world. thats why they paid the extra $6,000 for it over an Infiniti.

Here in Phoenix most of the A holes all have a H in a box on the back of their rides.

I think the 135I has great potential and I will test drive it when it is out. If it is better bang for the buck and I can live with the size I may trade my G.... I really really really LOVE my G35 though.

Jeff

Well, based on the size of the car, I would guess your G35 is larger. Now, depending on your need (family, etc...performance desires) the 135I might fit you. The 135I will be my first BMW. I'm a tunner at heart and currently drive a Dodge Neon SRT-4 (Stage 3) with many mods. I also have an M35 for luxury. Based on the cost of an M vs a BMW I got more car and I love the M.

From a tunner aspect, I really like the 135I because I believe it has great potential to be a 12 second street car with minimal mods and luxury to boot. Based on what it would take to get a G37 to the power/speed ratio of a 135I, I choose to go with the 135I. I think the tunner market will do well with this car.

[ArEs23x]

I personally like the BMW 135i.. I think it will beat both the g35 and the g37 one of the contributing factors is being lighter and powerful. I dont have any complaints about the car except it looks good to me IMO

I am also looking at the Lexus IS F that car looka frickin sick

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Whats wrong with an owner thinking his car is the best? As of right now I bet you think your car is the best? But with your statement your saying all BMW owners are F#### up. This is so untrue and very bias. We all meet other drivers of cars, example, an EVO driver who may be a jackass.... we'll not all Evo drivers are jackasses. Just because I meet one bad apple, does not believe all others are.

OK I will let it go with Most BMW owners that know anything about the car are Asses!

I mean i could have a 911 Turbo and a 3 series owner would still have something to say about the preformance of the 3 series that is better than a 911... and there isn't any.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

I think BMW is just starting a new class so that infiniti or lexus will make a car in that class that will kick its ***!



I would love to see a g35 sedan convertable! That would be like the best of all worlds lol But you Need a Twin Turbo too

DJ

[abdoman]

You really don't know what your talking about. The only thing Lexus has on BMW or Infiniti is reliability.The only car that really competes with a 3 series (apples to apples) is the Infiniti. I have driven the CTS, IS350, a 335 coupe and a G35. The IS350 is way too soft to be a true sports sedan, CTS just doesn't have the edge, the 335 is a great car, but I just couldn't justify spending the extra money for the little extra performance you get.

[Kenrik]

Way to Heavy...

I really don't see the need if it is almost the same weight and just a few inches smaller then the three series (1.4 inches thiner.. woopp tee effing doo)

It looks ok but the curb weight is what's killing it! it's almost pointless! it's not a "New Class" it has almost the same specs as the 3 series.. Plus from the sound of it it will need a LSD sway bars and who knows maybe a whole new suspension setup to handle well. That's pretty crappy that you need to modify a brand new car just to get it to handle the way that it should. I prefer cars that lean in the direction of Oversteer rather then Understeer.. I mean heck why even have RWD if it's going to handle like a FWD car?

Where is the car company that can give me a Sub - 3000lb RWD sports coupe for under 30k??? Anyone?

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

You really don't know what your talking about. The only thing Lexus has on BMW or Infiniti is reliability.The only car that really competes with a 3 series (apples to apples) is the Infiniti. I have driven the CTS, IS350, a 335 coupe and a G35. The IS350 is way too soft to be a true sports sedan, CTS just doesn't have the edge, the 335 is a great car, but I just couldn't justify spending the extra money for the little extra performance you get.

I don't normally do this... But You are the one that don't konw anything...

I've owned a Lexus Is 350 and a IS 300... and Model year for model year they ROCK. The Is 350 with the sport Suspension Will rock the world of the Infiniti G35 and it is a much better made car. The reliabilty is the just what you get when you buy a well made car.

And if you are talking apples to apples the only cars that compete with the BMW 3's are the IS350 and C350 The G35 is a larger car than the 3's and the IS or the C class. The Cadillac isn't even a car i would look at for this class of cars so you can say what you want about that car but i think we will all agree on that lol

I think you need to drive car for car. Things like sport suspension make a big difference..

And for the record The Lexus IS F that comes out soon will be the car to beat. 8speed transmisson that shifts faster than a F-1 Transmisson. and a 5.0 V8 that sings with a grunt each time you get on the gas over 3k RPMs via a quad exhost.

DJ

[rn79870]

The linked article states the car is "172 inches long and 69 inches wide."When you compare that to a new Civic sedan at 174.8 inches long, this is going to be a more of a go kart than a car. On the other hand, that is a lot of HP for a Civic sized car.

[joe603]

And for the record The Lexus IS F that comes out soon will be the car to beat. 8speed transmisson that shifts faster than a F-1 Transmisson. and a 5.0 V8 that sings with a grunt each time you get on the gas over 3k RPMs via a quad exhost. DJ

Just saw the motorweek test on Speed...The car sounds great! However, the exhaust is probably the ugliest OEM design...ever! Why oh why would you stack the tips off center....

The IS-F is in the 60's...hardly comparable to the G35's price. It's closer to the GT-R, which will undoubtedly destroy the Lexus in any test. They have their crosshairs on the M3...

[USAF_G35_Guy]

OMG!!! I just threw up a little bit in the back of my throat

That exhaust is hideous!!!

The Lexus engineers were hittin the crack pipe that day

[adren77]

The Is 350 with the sport Suspension Will rock the world of the Infiniti G35 and it is a much better made car. The reliabilty is the just what you get when you buy a well made car.

And if you are talking apples to apples the only cars that compete with the BMW 3's are the IS350 and C350 The G35 is a larger car than the 3's and the IS or the C class. The Cadillac isn't even a car i would look at for this class of cars so you can say what you want about that car but i think we will all agree on that lol

I think you need to drive car for car. Things like sport suspension make a big difference..

And for the record The Lexus IS F that comes out soon will be the car to beat. 8speed transmisson that shifts faster than a F-1 Transmisson. and a 5.0 V8 that sings with a grunt each time you get on the gas over 3k RPMs via a quad exhost.

DJ

I will agree that the Lexus is a great car, but there is just nothing sporty about IS350. Why do you think nobody compares it to the 3 series?

As far as the IS-F, it will probably be just like the AMG, big, powerful and too heavy... doesn't make it a sports car though.

[abdoman]

Your right. When Lexus released the IS I was pumped until I drove it.

[jean8]

Hello everyone, I'm a BMW owner(335i), Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT not all Bimmer owners are f**k up, I don't think I have the best car in the world, if I had 100K I will not be driving a BMW I will probably be driving a 911 turbo. I don't have anything against infiniti, I think the G35 and the G37 are great cars, but I prefer my 3 series (that's just me).

Honestly I don't like the 1-series I think is horrible and the price difference between the 135i and the 335i coupe is only 5k. for that amount I take the 335i instead it have the same amount of power, only 190 pounds heavier than the 135i and way more room.

PROcede already came out with an ECU update for the 335i that gives you 400HP. Imagine what are they going to do to the 135i. is going to be a fast car.

[radio5boro]

It's still an ugly BMW! I don't care if it had a sub 4 second 0-60...I eventually have to park the thing and look at it!

that was the funniest thing ive read on these forums.. lol

[hughey]

I usually don't get into this kind of discussion, but... As a former BMW owner (7 and 8 series) I have to say that not all BMW owners are screwed in the head, just like all G35 owners don't care to bolt on anything they can find to make their cars a little faster. The whole point of forums like this is to share knowledge. I put up with a lot of gear heads when I owned my 850 just because it was a rare car and no one in town including the BMW dealership knew how to work on it. I would do the research, find the solution, then take the car in and tell the techs what they needed to know. Usually ticked them off, but I didn't waste a lot of time and money on replacing things that didn't need to be done. After having two BMWs and spending many thousands on repairs, I came back to the G because I love the looks and it is cost efficient to drive. It's also plenty fast for street driving, which is the only kind I do, so no need to mod... My point is, everyone owns the car they own because they think it's the best one out there. Spend more time helping the guy who might be getting ready to buy a car that looks good but that we all know has been trashed, and less time knocking someone else's ride and there will be peace in all of the world. OK, I'm dreaming...

Merry, Merry

[ugaexploder]

the 135i is going to be a scary car PERFORMANCE wise...it's every 16-20 year old's dream car probably. 300hp, 300 ft-lbs, weighs nothing. i mean how can you hate on a car like that even if bmw is the closest competitor to infiniti. bottom line is, bmw knows engines. as much as i hate bmw owners as well, they're going to add a nice addition to the lineup. if i drove a 335i i'd be kicking myself in the ***. cause i'm thinking, wow, i just paid 5-15 thousand extra dollars for a slower car (although the 335i looks a whole lot better). but at the end of the day, it'll be one of those cars that you have to pour your life savings into in order for it to be a balanced vehicle. you can have 600hp to the wheels, but if your car doesn't have the brakes to stop all them horsies or suspension to stay fast then what's the point? that's why i'm opting out of bmw forever, never will i own one...unless a bimmer can pull over 1 lateral G. so just like the guy from the '72 dolphins said. BMW: don't call me when you're in my neighborhood, call me when you're on my block

[ArEs23x]

OMG!!! I just threw up a little bit in the back of my throat

That exhaust is hideous!!!

The Lexus engineers were hittin the crack pipe that day

sorry but i actually think the car is hawt