BMW 135i vs G35/G37

[joe603]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...I mean how can anyone actually like the styling on new BMW's??

Yes the IS-F is hot...but the exhaust is a miss.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Well if i had an extra 30k I would go out and buy the new ISF! And take BMW M3's all day long! LOL

And yea that would really piss them Germans off!

A luxury Lexus that will beat their (on a pedistal) M3

DJ

[plane16j]

i work for bmw here in phx az...the only bmw i would personally buy if i had the money (and wanted luxury as well as performance) id get the 335i or the 06' m3 their fast as f*** and have a great top end, i wouldnt get the 135 because there not the prettiest and ive seen it in real life.but i personally think in the bmw your mostly paying for luxury and convience (alot of older people even buy the 335i. older as in elderly lol and they probly wont ever go over 50mph in it ) anyway , theres everything and more in those cars than you could imagine. i dont care much about the luxury part of a car i want a fast car that looks kinda sporty. like evo or sti. or a fully rebuilt forced inducted 240sx

[gwoods]

Are you at the Chapman BMW?

[plane16j]

sure am chapman bmw on camelback

[gwoods]

Cool! you guys have 135I's in already?

I may have to take a long lunch and come drive one next week if you do.

[plane16j]

no we dont thave them yet i picked up a 328i @ a car bmw car show where they had one on display.. but yea it'll be a fast car i'll let you know when we get them...and i also cant wait fro the the 08' m3...

[Sentientbydesign]

A few thoughts to add.

The 1 series is supposed to be mild hybrid from my research. BMW won't ever market it that way, but I read that the power steering, brakes...etc were electric driven as well as a few other "hybrid" type mechanics.

I just bought an 05 6MT coupe. Prior to driving a G35, I test drove a 2003 335i and a 525i. I absolutely hated both of them. They felt like huge bricks on wheels. I could barely feel any torque, acceleration didn't start to show until high speeds. The interior looked like something out of my mom's old Mercury Lynx.

I can't lie and say that BMW didn't do a great job on exterior styling (not including the 1 series), but the interiors were horrible. And the boat-like feel was far from acceptable.

Take my comments with this in mind. My previous car was a 96 I30 with 275,000 miles on it. It felt better off the line and in turns than either of those bimmers.

[etschell]

difference between a cactus and a bmw?

on the cactus the pricks are on the outside.

i will have to disagree, turbo cars have way more problems and these new bmw turbos are overheating off an on. and for any members who are sucking this cars nuts because it is "fast" a POS neon srt-4 (yes that is 4 cylinders not 6) will drop it in a heartbeat.
Modified by etschell at 12:35 PM 1/2/2008

[gwoods]

I'll have to hold off on the BMW then because I am not a prick

[Sentientbydesign]

I second that.

Most bimmer owner do give off an air of superiority. I feel like a pessant bowwing down to royalty around most of them.

And after driving one of their cars, it's like watching those teenagers take a placebo instead of X and get "high".

[JenelOwnd]

I would just like to say, that the only reason those bimmers were better than the g37 is because of its TWIN TURBO.

which if a g37 would have also, would own the 135i and 335i

[abdoman]

I would just like to say, that the only reason those bimmers were better than the g37 is because of its TWIN TURBO.

which if a g37 would have also, would own the 135i and 335i

That's like saying the only reason the GTR is so good is because it's twin turbo. Take out the turbos and the vette would own it.

BMW has done a great job on the new engine. Great HP and excellent mpg. Just overpriced.

[Jacko3]

I have only driven a BMW once, and the drive was exciting. I think it was a 3.28 I. Had good torque but no speed. Basedon what I have heard about the 135I, I wonder why the 3.28 was not improved? Why waste the resources and engineering on a 1 series? The 1 series is probabaly going to end up being a money tank, a maintenance nightmare, with lots of power/torque. With its size and cost, I would rather buy a Mitsu Evo or a WRX Sti. BMW is not know to be good with small cars. They have failed miserably, year-after-year with small cars. I doubt this will be different. Leave the small car to Mitsubishi and Subaru---these manufacturers understand how to make a small car talk and act like a big car.

I have driven a Lexus IS-350. Was relatively fast like the 2008 G-35 Sedan, but interior, while nice, felt cramped. I felt a sense of urgancy to jump out of the car. Toomuch claustrophobia. In addition, its handling on curves and turn, can be scary and troubling. Handling is an issue with the IS-350.

The same issue was identified with the Cadillac CTS.

There is one car, that I thik is being seriously ignored in terms of performance and handling. That car si the 2008 Honda Accord Coupe V-6, 6MT with 18 " wheels. Of all the cars I have driven, I find its handling and performance pretty close to that of the G-35. It was even cheaper. The problem with the car is its interior. I wondered if Honda engineers were blindfolded when they were designing the interior of the car. Its interior ergonomics is awful. Has lots of space though.

The 2007 and 2008 G-35 Sedans and the G37 have one thing in common---they all have the most unusual acceleration of any car of that size I have ever driven. The acceleration seems limitless--which is odd for a street car.

I bought my G-35 Coupe because ti remains the most sexy car ever built in the last 6 years. A car that draws the emotions, a car that makes drivers want to drive it, and on lookers want to kiss it. Till date, no other auto manufacturer of common cars has come up with anything that looks just as beautiful, even after 6 years. That is a remarkable feat Infiniti should be proud of. I have even suggested that the infiniti designers probably made love to beautiful women, the night before they came up with the design of the g-35 Coupe.

On top of this, it is important to note that the G-335 is not the best at anything, except pure beauty. The G-35 Coupe's pricing, reliability, safety, aesthetic appeal, handling, power, maintenance, resale value, appears to be the most balanced and optimal among its peers and competitors. In my opinion, this type of optimal strategy, is hard to beat or even come close to. It is this balance that makes it hard to explain why many people love the G-35 Coupe.

The Evo and WRX sti are faster than the G-35 Coupe but not as luxurious in their interior. The 335I is faster than the G-35 Coupe, but not as cheap as the G-35 Coupe and and not as cheap to maintian either. The Lexus IS-350 is faster than the G-35Coupe but does not handle as well. The Mercedez is more luxurious than a G-35 Coupe but not as cheap and as nimble as the G-35 Coupe.

I can't seem to find a car that has all these charcteristsics in one stop. The G-35 Coupe is the only car I know that has achieved the ultimate balance in all areas of any car issues. The Japanese call this, Omotanashi, Wa, and Takumi.

If you know a car that can beat the G-35 Coupe in the segment listed below, please let me know. I am all ears.

A. pricing B. reliability C. safety D. aesthetic appeal E. handling, power, F. maintenance G. resale value. Don't forget the unique exhust sound of the G-35 Coupe. Till date no other competitor has produced a sound, as sweet.

[Sentientbydesign]

The 1 series, I was told, was supposed to be BMW's answer to a demand for power and fuel economy. Though they won't call it a hybrid, it borrow a lot of technology from the current mild hybrid vehicles. Again, this is what I've heard.

After driving a 325i and a 525, I'm not impressed with BMW anymore. I thought their interior looked like something from the 80s and the acceleration on the two autos I drove was terrible with noticeable shift points that my old *** I30 didn't exibit with over 3 times as many miles.

I've joked with my wife about taking a Bimmer body and shoving a Nissan Drivetrain and interior into.

I also couldn't deal with the floatiness of the suspension. Made me feel like I was driving a F150 (no exageration).

[smockers83]

The 1-series is also supposed to be geared towards us youngins out there who are just graduating college or have graduated in the past few years. At least in terms of pricing. From what I've heard.

[etschell]

35k is not for people who just got out of college IMO.

[smockers83]

Think of it in relative terms for BMW. There are people here in their young 20s who have bought/leased Gs. The 128i opens at $28,600 (I know its not 135).

Something that I haven't seen talked about yet, from a quick glance, is a CVT transmission from BMW? Is that really true?

[plane16j]

i drove the 08 m3 coupe and sedan....their great i was kinda disappointed with the body style. though i thought it would have been more graphic. all it really is, is a 328 with a v8 and of course all the drive train and suspension changes. but it is still is a cool car.

[rn79870]

My neighbor just brought home a new Cadillac DeVille. Loaded, off white and beautiful. I hate to admit it, but Cadillac makes a really sweet looking car. I wouldn't mind being stuck in that thing for a cross country trip.

What does this have to do with BMW...I dunno, nothing I suppose.

[G_whizz]

Apparently the concept came up 500 years ago??!!

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/cvt.htm

[Number1gsxxr]

I second that.

Most bimmer owner do give off an air of superiority. I feel like a pessant bowwing down to royalty around most of them.

I think one of the reasons for this is you have to be pretty well off to afford a BMW. I bet if you look at professions of people who drive BMWs you would find a ton of lawyers and doctors, etc. Not always, but most of the time, people with a lot of money will look down of those who don't have as much. That's not to say G owners are any different. I'll admit that I have felt that way some times. I don't have a ton of money but moving up in the world from a '92 Plymouth Laser, I sometimes look over at the car next to me and say to myself "it sucks to be you".

I almost bought an '06 325i with sport package but it didn't even have power seats. Even though it was the base model, that's unacceptable in a "luxury" car. Instead I got a car that was two years older but had way more bang for the buck.

[adren77]

I don't know why people bash on BMWs. They make awesome cars.

[mo$]

I drive an E46 M3. love it. best handling car I ever owned. I love the look. BUT also the most expensive to upkeep. I am looking at the G car. Has anyone here ever owned an M then flipped to a G35? I would love your perspective. The G has some serious sex appeal. I raced a few, but I dont know if the 2 cars compare well. I think for the diff in price of the 2 one could bolt on FI and have some serious fun.

I been called a DIK, but I was that even when I drove a ragtop 300z and a GS 430. I dont think the car you drive forms your personality. That would be pretty shallow. The G crowd has its cult, the GS430 has its cult, the M has its cult. Its just what you like. I am serious about the G car and like any insight from drivers of the M and the G.THX

[Sentientbydesign]

I personally bash on Bimmers because 90% of the owners I've come in contact with act "holier than thou" and the 2 Bimmers I've driven were horrible.

Antiquated interior. Top heavy. And very rough auto trannies.

[plane16j]

i drove the 135 today

[gwoods]

AND????

I thought it wasn't due out until May? Where did you find one to drive early? Oh don't you work at the BMW dealership on McDowell?

I am going to test drive one too!

[plane16j]

no i work @ the one on camelback

[gwoods]

Car and Driver got 0-60 in 4.7 seconds out of their 135I

1/4 mile in 13.3 at 106 mph

That should be good enough to beat a 425 hp SRT-8 LX car!!!!

[tollboothwilley]

I love BMW's

My first car was one and I don't regret anything besides the upkeep.

As for the ///M 3 difference and the G....

take the extra 30G's. Go FI and throw on some sweet suspension upgrades and I don't think you will ever be sad you did. Sex on Wheels!!