boMex wrote:Maine....the "other" double clutching is just dumb as sht ricer bs. I'm glad that you and a few other seem to know what double clutching is. Most newbs think it's power shifting (which doesn't really help you) or Heel&Toe (which doesn't actually use your heel or your toe)...damn...so many dumb asses.... Swift Drift I"m looking at you (maybe if your posts were a little bit more readable you wouldn't come off as such a meathead...no 'fence)
SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:you have no clue what double clutching is then. double clutching is the first step to learning proper heel-toe technique. double clutching is about matching engine speed/revs for smoother downshifts. Heel-toe is only used when you are braking, toe on the brake, heel to double clutch and match revs while you are braking. Anytime you just wanna downshift and dont need to brake all ur doing then is double clutching, there is no heel-toe involved because you are just letting the engine naturally slow down till you match revs in a lower gear.
Team503 wrote:C-Kwik has it right on double clutching.
And to explain heel and toe better, the idea behind it is rather simple. When on a racetrack, you need to brake and use the accelerator at the same time (that's a gas pedal for those of you who don't know) for various reasons - trailbraking, keeping revs up, etc.
Since it's assumed that you'll need your left foot to operate the clutch pedal, there needs to be a way to brake and rev at the same time - say, coming into a late apex turn and rev-matching to the gear your shifting into, but trail-braking on your way into the apex.
So the simple solution is to use yiour left foot for the clutch, your right heel for the brake, and your right toes for the gas. Some people switch the heel and toes around, which is fine, it's whatever works for you.
Why do you think the gas pedal and brake pedal are placed close to each other, roughly even, and roughly with the same amount of travel, while the clutch is WAY off to the left, and has twice the travel the other two do?
Cars are DESIGNED to be heel and toed. For those people out there who didn't know this, now you do. If you're talking smack, and you were wrong, I would highly advise learning what the hell you're talking about. Read some books, go to a driver's school. Hell, go autocross (http://www.scca.org). But learn what the hell you're talking about, ok?
Tai Mai Shu wrote:I tell you I think the F&F has gotten some of these guys thinking aobut stuff that isnt true. Kind of sad. Most people (including myself) use it to stop the weight from sifting forward when I downshift so that my tail end doesnt become loose and I go into a spin....
PS Double Clutching and Heel toe (which some people do use, the twist there ankle to the side so the top of there foot is on the brake and the (heel) is on the gas...they have nothign to do incommon. the only thing in common they have is they use the gas and the brake. Double Clutching is when you are lets say in 1st, then press the clutch into Netrual tap the gas and then put into 2nd, its raither easy. my friend uses it on his talon AWD, his 2nd gear sycro is messed up.:rolleyes
skatanic28 wrote:not too sure about your definition of double clutching..the way you decribe it simply sounds like rev matchingtrue double clutching would be to be in first, clutch, put it in neutral, declutch, clutch, shift to 2nd, then declutch and continue..