Any Power mod for Versa yet?

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OK, long story short....

Versa is just slow after 110km/h.... and I feel quite worry to even buy this car, and drive it on the highway because of this reason....

Do anyone know any real modification for this car? (Cold Air Intake and the whole exhaust will be only good for like 5HP?)

I need way more than that, around 140HP, do anyone know what I can buy to increase the power?


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IMO the V is plenty fast enough, i feel that it is slow after about 90 mph (145 kph) which is fine because i rarly go that fast.

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Well, the '08 Lotus Elise has a 1.8 liter which pushes 190HP (218 with supercharger) so it is possible to squeeze power out of a 1.8 liter.

Seriously, I don't think that there currently are any real power upgrades available for the versa (ported heads, new camshafts, etc.) It is just too young of a car for such things. But if you are a real gearhead, and not a bolt-on baby, you can design and machine such upgrades yourself rather than wait for the aftermarket companies to do the work for you.

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The real answer here is:If you want a fast car, buy a fast car...not a Versa. The Versa is not built for performance in any way. It has plenty of 'pep' for everyday driving, but if that isn't enough for you, then buy something else. It's that simple.

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Buy what I've got! My truck is completely stock and I beat BMW 325i's all day long. Its a fun/fast truck.

And Im getting my Versa back just for gas perposes...looks like Ill have it back in 2 weeks.

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07V84Z wrote:The real answer here is:If you want a fast car, buy a fast car...not a Versa. The Versa is not built for performance in any way. It has plenty of 'pep' for everyday driving, but if that isn't enough for you, then buy something else. It's that simple.
why when i can make the versa faster then those "fast" cars. and i dont know what kinda racing you do but the faster car doesn't always win...but it does help. i remember before the versa came out on the market, before there was a forum on this website, i wanted the car....and i wanted it specifically for auto crossing but thats still in dream state...soon coming to reality...i hope.

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Back when I drove my '94 firebird formula automatic I used to get a kick out of all of my friends getting excited about their modified 4 bangers. They would spend thousands on upgrades to their civics and neons and get really proud of their low 15 high 14 quarter mile times. Then I'd show them my low 14 timeslip on my stock formula.

Finally after adding nifty things like turbochargers, one of them actually beat my time. I took a couple grand, reprogrammed the pcu, replaced the exhaust, added a CAI, ported and polished the heads (myself) and installed roller-rockers. I went back to having the best timeslips of my group.

Any mod that can be done to a 4 cylinder can be done to one of the faster cars. I've seen camaros pushing about 2,000 horsepower. Of course this requires a lot of custom work, race quality superchargers, etc. but still, show me any 4 cylinder pushing 2,000 horses.

Still the draw to the 4 cylinder was mileage. My formula got about 12-14 mpg. I upgraded to a Lexus RX300 which got about 19-22 (currently the wife's car.) Now, 5 years later, I drive my Versa, and although I only get about 26mpg (lots of stop and go traffic.) I'm pleased. I've outgrown the "gotta go fast" stage, but am looking forward to my mid life crisis where I get to buy a really fast car.


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SuperTurbo wrote:OK, long story short....

Versa is just slow after 110km/h.... and I feel quite worry to even buy this car, and drive it on the highway because of this reason....

Do anyone know any real modification for this car? (Cold Air Intake and the whole exhaust will be only good for like 5HP?)

I need way more than that, around 140HP, do anyone know what I can buy to increase the power?
1. Build a turbo kit.2. Kill your engine and transmission.3. Buy an Evo X.

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Hi guys.

For Lotus's engine, although it's a 1.8L engine, but you are really talking apples & oranges so it will not work on the Versa block. You need to do a lot of work to make it happen.

Other than that, I actually make some typo... what I mean is get like extra 15-20more HP, so it get close to a 140HP range. Not 140HP increase.

Actually I do own a 07 WRX, but.... it's a history now since my dad total it and said some BS that the car is too fast, so he total my car.....

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Uh. The Versa has plenty of power for the highway.... If I don't pay attention to the speedometer, it'll float up to 80 MPH or even 85 on it's own and I'm barely pushing the gas. That says something to me. If you wanna see struggling to get to interstate speeds, try driving an original Geo Metro.

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As said before, even a toal of 140hp at the crank would be tough to get. This is built as an econobox, just happens to be one of the higher powered sub-compacts. The normal CAI and custom cat back probably would get you 128-130 crank hp assuming a lot of things I'm unsure of (ecu reaction, etc). There may be things down the line for more power (intake mani, header, etc), but for now there isn't really. There still isn't a full aftermarket catback system yet, its slow going.

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If you just have to get more power out of the Versa, do a custom exhaust with a high flow catalytic converter and muffler, CAI, wait for intake and exhaust headers and port them, wait for bigger camshafts and throw them in. Even after all that, you may have 130 HP to wheels if you're lucky. Kinda doubting it though.

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That's too bad, WRX is a really great car. I've had a few buddies who had them, and their potential take off speed is great thanks to that AWD. They are definitely a faster car - bigger engine, turbo, etc.

I don't know anyone who has pushed enough of a modification to a Versa to get much HP from it. You could try the basic few - new headers (probably custom, so you'll have to tune them youself) high-flow or straight pipe cat, high-flow muffler, CAI, port and polish the head. It won't add much in our car, but doing all that might squeeze out most of the HP you are looking for.

As for the Lotus, I was just trying to list the potential of a 1.8 litre non-boosted non juiced engine. It has higher compression ratios, a smoother head, better piston design and many other little things, but it still has 1.8 litres of displacement, the same is ours.

For that matter, I'm sure with enough work (in this case I'm talking really serious work - titanum pistons/rods, new crank/camshafts, twin turbos, etc.) you could probably bust 200 HP on this engine, but who wants to put $50K into a versa engine?

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Just thought of something. If you were good with custom work or could get a shop to do it for you, find a small low boost turbo and fabricate that on. That'll get you the extra power you want. I wouldn't get a full blown turbo unless you don't plan on the engine lasting very long...

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Yea... since it's my dad's fault, so he is trying to hold me into the insurance policy so that I pay part of his fault.....

Yea, I miss my 07 WRX. The new one 08.09 one is just **** compare to their older well build car....

For custom work or small turbo, I don't think I will go to that route since I don't want to void the warranty.... but for the market right now, the best sub-compact car is really the Versa ( I must admit that) only 2-3 things which bugs me is the 1. A piller (block a lot of view, and they make that so thick for some stupid reason)2. lack of another 10-20HP (With that, it will perform like a Corolla level)3. the small donuts 185 tires. (I don't know why, once it get a bit old the tire seems to squeak a lot)

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Shad0wXCalibur wrote:If you just have to get more power out of the Versa, do a custom exhaust with a high flow catalytic converter and muffler, CAI, wait for intake and exhaust headers and port them, wait for bigger camshafts and throw them in. Even after all that, you may have 130 HP to wheels if you're lucky. Kinda doubting it though.
Lucky would be 130 to crank, probably like 115 to wheels.

Someone needs to get to dynoing before anything can be said on the upgrade hp/torque changes.

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The Versa isnt fast. It wasnt meant to be fast. Nissan didnt intend it to be fast. It has enough pep to get onto the highway well enough. Leave it alone.

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1. Your father is an *******

2. I like to cruise on the 401 @ 120ish kph. That puts me at about 3,200rpm in 6th. As for "get up and go", get the 6pd manual, it definitely helps. Although I also hear awesome things about the CVT transmission.

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Kokanee wrote:1. Your father is an *******

2. I like to cruise on the 401 @ 120ish kph. That puts me at about 3,200rpm in 6th. As for "get up and go", get the 6pd manual, it definitely helps. Although I also hear awesome things about the CVT transmission.
1. yea... I know..... and it's sucks as hell because of that, plus he doesn't allow me to get another Turbo car back just because of his own issue...

2. Wow.... even @ 6 gear @ 120km need 3200rpm?? that's sky high.... or you mean a 5th gear?

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i wouldnt advise a versa for that.. The versa is just a small engine, that wont beable to handle alot of power without blowing shortly after.. I'm not much on cars, but i know what kind of power motors can handle.. I've blown a engine like the versa in my metro, because someone tried to make it faster..

I would look into dropping a V6 in the V, to get power and beable to turbo and all, but i dont think V6s from Nissan would actually fit in the body.. *shrugs*

Just leave the V and its original engine alone.. It really does have some power to it. I deliver with mine, and when i get on the interstate i'll start at 70, and without knowing i'll be up at 90 in no time..

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I have a CVT SL. The acceleration is good to me. It sits at one RPM instead of revving up making it seem slower... but it actually moves pretty nicely.
Kokanee wrote:1. Your father is an *******

2. I like to cruise on the 401 @ 120ish kph. That puts me at about 3,200rpm in 6th. As for "get up and go", get the 6pd manual, it definitely helps. Although I also hear awesome things about the CVT transmission.

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Yep 120kph @ 3,200rpm in 6th

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Yea... mod wise... I don't think this 1.8L can handle anything more...... May be like extra 10-20HP...

Speed wise, CVT seems to go faster, but still..... not good enough....

Now I am thinking Sentra SER without V Spec. Seems like that will be a better car for me!

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SuperTurbo wrote:Now I am thinking Sentra SER without V Spec. Seems like that will be a better car for me!
Bingo. Even the 2.0 Sentra would be a little better for you compared to the Versa.

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showthread.php?t=158428

Here you go. Turbo kit and the plumbing for the Versa... Not sure if I would run it, but if you want it, you can get it..

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Versafied wrote:showthread.php?t=158428

Here you go. Turbo kit and the plumbing for the Versa... Not sure if I would run it, but if you want it, you can get it..
Bad link.

And there have been a couple people who have had a turbo kit on a versa, but it has been completely custom and there is not tuning for them involved, so engine would go bye-bye soon.

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my_new_v wrote:And Im getting my Versa back just for gas perposes...looks like Ill have it back in 2 weeks.
Like... the same Versa... or a new Versa?

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Once you go Versa, you never go back?

rofl....shut up, EV.

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KimberKenobi wrote:
Like... the same Versa... or a new Versa?

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Once you go Versa, you never go back?

rofl....shut up, EV.


The same one I had before

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Yes that was the complete custom setup, to my knowledge it didn't have a tune, or was just a piggy back of some kind. The biggest part of the turbo kit was sold to a member on here to put it on (non-running I believe) then sold the entire car on ebay.


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