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NolimitZ32 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:51 am
From all your description I really want to ride in this thing to see what the SCV8 feels like. The 4.09 gears are hilarious with any amount of TQ applied, when the discos spool on mine in 1st, 2nd, and sometimes 3rd, there is side step. Great job again man!
Agreed, seems like a REALLY fun car for sure. Funny as I also thought about swapping my NA's rear subframe into the TT at one time as an easier HICAS delete, but then realized the fact mine also sidesteps 1-3rd w/275's on the rear that the 4.10 ratio would not help that in the least!
And yeah, Z32 ownership is as close to rockstar status as I ever wanted (actually, never wanted)...as the downside is that the Smokies also notice and I wish I was paid for how many times one has followed me around a bit to see how I was driving. And at other times regular drivers move out of my way when they see the low sleek ZMissile in their rearview...cracks me up!


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itsa300zx wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:27 pm
Would you like to try an OEM modified shifter? I can make it to what ever reduction you want, if any. I have a core coming in this week, let me know if you are interested and I’ll hold this one for you.
I think I can learn to like the Z1 shifter. Most important thing is at WOT rowing through the gears I see (knock on wood) little to no possibility of a missed or money shift - the feel is great. The notchiness is just something I'm sensitive about since my T56 days. I appreciate it, though! And I know, still gotta send you my old shifter :inout:

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NolimitZ32 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:51 am
From all your description I really want to ride in this thing to see what the SCV8 feels like. The 4.09 gears are hilarious with any amount of TQ applied, when the discos spool on mine in 1st, 2nd, and sometimes 3rd, there is side step. Great job again man!
I really wish I had more Z32 owners in the local area that were active. Our local FB page is a ghost town! I'd love to give some rides out.

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AIV System delete. Simple and quick delete, shave about 10lbs off of the front. Time lapse of it is on my IG @LS3_LaFlare

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Finally deleted the clutch line tonight. I also 'fixed' the intake to facilitate a larger filter - and gained back 1lbs of boost as a result! I still plan on having a metal intake welded together real nice, with some powdercoat on it. Powdercoated black, then I'll do the throttle body and maybe the supercharger black!

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Intake filter size difference.
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Nice work, continuing to look awesome.
Just some food for thought with your diff swap; Have you considered a diff from a 97-01 Q45? They have the same hgearing as the z32 tt diff that is direct bolt on to the NA. I'm currently running one on mine and have been happy with it. A TT speed sensor was needed to keep my speedo correct.

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itsa300zx wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:49 am
Nice work, continuing to look awesome.
Just some food for thought with your diff swap; Have you considered a diff from a 97-01 Q45? They have the same hgearing as the z32 tt diff that is direct bolt on to the NA. I'm currently running one on mine and have been happy with it. A TT speed sensor was needed to keep my speedo correct.
Interesting! Is 3.69 is the only gearing available (I would like 3.27 or something around there if possible)? Man, you just saved me a ton of work like switching axles, and changing driveshaft! They are LSDs as well? And TT speed sensors mounted to the diff, correct?

Im going to try and find a Q45 diff locally and maybe install this weekend or next.... BIG THANKS.

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The R200 comes in many ratios but the 3.69 is common. All you need to do is swap over the input flange for the DS over: yes they are VLSD
http://fgy33.tripod.com/id28.html

I got mine from whitehead performance out of Ontario Canada since they are hard to source hear. Hey can actually customize any ratio you want. This is the quote for the owner Mike when I ordered mine.
" I can still source the 3.7 diffs from USA. I pull other diffs from Japan, usually the weird ratios like 4.6 or 4.9 or 3.133 or 3.36"

speed sensor in the trans
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TT blue gear: NA's have a red gear and are not interchangeable.
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More info if you do decide to go R200V, here's some good stuff I dug up during my past research:

According to my internet research, Nissan produced R200 series diff with the following ratios:

Z33 – MT – R200 – 3.538
Z33 – MT – R200V – 3.538
Z33 – AT – R200V – 3.357
Z32 – VG30DETT – R230V * 3.692 (6×1 output shafts) This is the Twin turbo
Z32 – VG30DE – R200V – * 4.083 (5×1 output shafts) This is the NA
G35 – Sedan – AT – R200 – 3.357
G35 – Sedan – MT – R200V – 3.538
G35 – Sedan – AWD – AT – R200 – 3.357
G35 – Coupe – MT – R200V – 3.538
G35 – Coupe – AT – R200 – 3.357
G35 – Coupe – AT – R200V – 3.357
Q45 - Coupe - ?? - R200V - 3.13 *
Q45 – G50 – R200V – * 3.538 * need to swap side flanges or TT hubs and axles.
Q45 – FY33 – R200V – * 3.692 * my current direct swap
J30 – R200V – 3.916

* Denotes bolt in replacement; the rest require welding in new subframe components
V= viscous limited slip

Pay attention to five and six bolt flanges and 27 vs 31 spined shafts

The 90-95 Q45 R200V short nose 3.45 diff is a bolt in to NA subframe, but has six bolt flanges, and require either flange swap or TT hub swap.

Inaddition, the Z33/z34 R200V diff can be bolted up to the Z32 sub frame using these adapter kits: Be sure to confirm with them before hand.

https://www.enjukuracing.com/products/g ... yline.html

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itsa300zx wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:15 pm
More info if you do decide to go R200V, here's some good stuff I dug up during my past research:

According to my internet research, Nissan produced R200 series diff with the following ratios:

Z33 – MT – R200 – 3.538
Z33 – MT – R200V – 3.538
Z33 – AT – R200V – 3.357
Z32 – VG30DETT – R230V * 3.692 (6×1 output shafts) This is the Twin turbo
Z32 – VG30DE – R200V – * 4.083 (5×1 output shafts) This is the NA
G35 – Sedan – AT – R200 – 3.357
G35 – Sedan – MT – R200V – 3.538
G35 – Sedan – AWD – AT – R200 – 3.357
G35 – Coupe – MT – R200V – 3.538
G35 – Coupe – AT – R200 – 3.357
G35 – Coupe – AT – R200V – 3.357
Q45 - Coupe - ?? - R200V - 3.13 *
Q45 – G50 – R200V – * 3.538 * need to swap side flanges or TT hubs and axles.
Q45 – FY33 – R200V – * 3.692 * my current direct swap
J30 – R200V – 3.916

* Denotes bolt in replacement; the rest require welding in new subframe components
V= viscous limited slip

Pay attention to five and six bolt flanges and 27 vs 31 spined shafts

The 90-95 Q45 R200V short nose 3.45 diff is a bolt in to NA subframe, but has six bolt flanges, and require either flange swap or TT hub swap.

Inaddition, the Z33/z34 R200V diff can be bolted up to the Z32 sub frame using these adapter kits: Be sure to confirm with them before hand.

https://www.enjukuracing.com/products/g ... yline.html
You just did all the legwork! Man I can't tell you how much I appreciate this. From what I gather, all 350z's come with VLSD EXCEPT for the base models, so the autos (touring models) have 3.357 and that is EXACTLY what I want. You even included the conversion bushings! They are in the $2-300 range and is much cheaper than having to swap driveshaft and axles as well! :woot:

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A few upgrades, FINALLY got the right fans for the job, as well as upgraded the shot steering rack bushings (11 to 1 o'clock on the steering wheel did not move the wheels due to the slop in the rack that was caused by oil / PS slagged and torn OE bushings).

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Playing fan tag: Dual 11" SPAL fans is what I started with, but they were pullers and I reversed polarity to make them pushers, but, due to their curved blade design, did not flow anywhere near their designed CFM. 16" Mishimoto fan wouldn't fit. SPAL 13" High Performance PUSHER fan did the job, it fit snug, and got temps from 185 to 178 in a few seconds at idle on a 60* day. Should have no problem during the summer, and if it does, I'll run the current 13" and an 10" high performance pusher beside it.

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I plan on removing the OE hood latch and adding hood pin/latches.
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The little upgrades are starting to come together. One thing I also did was break the flat piece of plastic(?) on the clutch pedal that made contact with the clutch interlock button on accident (it fell and hit my ankle one day, in pieces), making it impossible to press the button to start the car with clutch in. I ended up tying the wires together so now I can start the car without pressing the clutch. Hopefully Florida finishes my registration tomorrow so I can have a fun weekend filming some stuff!

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Snagged a G35 rear differential for $120 locally. VLSD 3.54.

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Went ahead and removed the old NA 4.10s today. Had to remove the H-pipe before starting, and I took this time to look over everything to make sure the 500 or so miles I put on the car with the custom driveshaft didn't cause any issues.

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I initially had some concerns about the length of the driveshaft (thought it maybe too short), but no marks on the yolk, nothing loose, no noises as well.

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Easiet differential to pull, but I've only dealt with a Hyundai Genesis Coupe and a Pontiac GTO. So maybe that isn't saying much.

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Had to take a hammer to the trunk spare wheel area to get to the right side subframe mount.

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Some comparison shots between the G35 MT 3.54 VLSD, and the NA 4.10 LSD
I will have to swap over the axle stubs, swap over ABS sensors, and open up the companion flange holes so it will bolt up to the driveshaft. I am not sure if the companion flange will swap over, but I will try that first. Thanks again to itsa300zx for getting the ball rolling on this. I am $178 into this upgrade between gktech bushings and the G35 diff itself, and welcome the much lower cruising RPM, higher top speed, and better MPG!

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No worries, you are doing ALL the heavy lifting here. LoL. I have not done a Z33/g35 diff swap myself and very curious on how that will turn out. I went the easy route with a q45 r200 3.69 vlsd diff direct swap.

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Welp, about as fast as the project started it ended LOL nothing swaps over. At. All. If it was a TT diff to begin with, the stubs would swap over I'd assume with the G35 diff, but the NA diff stubs are too small. I seen a few threads stating the stubs would swap over, including someone who put (or was going to) a NA diff into their 350z, and confidently stated the axle stubs and companion flange would swap over, but that is very wrong. I will just grab a TT diff to swap and upgrade the axles and hubs because that is probably the smarter route anyway with the increased torque. I'll also need to revisit my driveshaft at that time since NA and TT have the different. In a way, I'm happy this didn't work out because I'd feel much better with the diff being mounted on 4 corners rather than 3.

So, I tossed the NA diff back in after a clean up, some new poly bushings in the front, and some subframe collars. Something I will be doing is swapping out all the old bushings, and adding swap bar and other suspension components because while I was under there everything just looked so old.

Light wash, but as usual, my phone decided to die at an inopportune time! My cleaning wasn't very thorough, but you could at least see the gray in the cover.

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Poly bushings up front

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I tried to get the diff bushing out of the subframe after removing the cups, but nah, after feeling defeated by the failed project G35 diff swap, I wasn't in the mood to heat/cut/press, or generally fight to get the old bushings out.
ODDLY ENOUGH I drove the car BEFORE I added the subframe collar kit and it was night and day feel as far as throttle response and shifting!

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A few days later the subframe collar kit came in. I must admit I thought there would be a night and day difference with them but there was not. On a short drive, and WOT pulls, the rear felt floaty BUT that may be because I can feel the lack of traction a lot better. I'm probably not explaining that properly, but I will give it a long and harder drive and come back with my findings. Shifting is so much more enjoyable with the improved throttle response, and the clunk rowing through the gears at WOT are gone, but much of that credit probably goes to the poly bushings on front of the diff. There was also a slight (emphasis on slight) whine (not my supercharger LOL) from the rear or trans after the subframe collar kit but idk if its in my head, from the blower (new filter took me from 5lbs to 6lbs of boost). The slight whine is only up and over 2500ish rpms, no vibrations, clunks, etc on deceleration, but also I didn't pay it much mind, I only noticed on the way home. It is a very nice comforting whine, almost like the whine from the cockpit of a GT track car in Forza LOL but a lot changed in a short period of time so it is really hard for me to give a solid review on such a short drive, but given the age of the bushings, I would definitely install the collars and bushings AGAIN and recommend them to anyone. There is a video from Z1 on YouTube of their subframe collars install before and after, and you can see how much the subframe moved around on/off throttle and it was pretty much eliminated after install.

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Of course, this install was not without drama. The front passenger side subframe mount or arm (?), was bent (the one on the left). I was concerned and almost panicked at first sight, but decided just to torque it up and it seemed to bend back in place one the subframe collars were in and I approached 80ft/lbs of torque. I won't loose sleep about it.

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You can see one installed on top here

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Sorry to hear the G35 diff did not work out. I feel bad for leading you in the wrong direction.

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itsa300zx wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:30 am
Sorry to hear the G35 diff did not work out. I feel bad for leading you in the wrong direction.
Nonsense! You were super helpful man, but I got some misinformation on other forums about the stubs being interchangeable. This still would've worked if I got 350z axles or TT axles (6bolt stubs) and changed the wheelhub to my understanding (I have seen with my own eyes an LS swapped z32 launching from a dig with 350z rear end setup, and g35 diff is the same). I was still able to upgrade bushings and stuff with it out so it was not for nothing, and labor was super easy.

Only reason I decided to go TT route is because you showed me the speed sensor, stronger axles, the TT diff is mounted at 4 points instead of 3 like the G35, and I had some concerns about wheelhop with that setup.

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Got some new tires Friday. Went with Toyo Proxes r888r in 305/35-18.
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Good god almighty that stance. THIS THIS kids is what STANCE is supposed to be! Love it.

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NolimitZ32 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:18 am
Good god almighty that stance. THIS THIS kids is what STANCE is supposed to be! Love it.
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Things moving slowly, but I just got my degree in Aeronautics from Embry Riddle! A little break in schooling so I snagged a Winfactory CSL-R Rear Competition Sport Lip Spoiler (ridiculously drawn out name LOL). I also orders a shorter radiator, so I'll be able to fit an intake UNDER the hood! I'll be sure to post up the changes, but for now, here is a test fit of the spoiler:

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Man, thats a sweet build!

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Well. It was a good run, albeit short, but a good run nonetheless. But America is where my heart is LOL sold it and bought a 2010 C6 Grand Sport manual in Blade Silver Metallic (A z06 without the aluminum frame, fixed roof, and LS7 - has a hand built LS3 w/ forged crank + dry sump instead). I will be tossing a ZR1 blower (LS9 2.1 liter supercharger) on it among some cosmetic things. I'll still be around to answer questions and such, but moved on.

Simply put: Everyone I know has muscle cars, I always wanted a vette, and so I just made an impulsive decision to switch to a better platform. There is no single instance why I made a sudden change, it just kinda happened

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If domestic is where your heart lies no one can fault you. Sad to see the beastly Z32 go, hope it went to a deserving home.

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WOW, I don't know what to say. Hope the new owner appreciates all the hard work that went into it.
Nice looking Vette anyways.

Do you still have the OEM shifter for the Z laying around? I'm still interested.

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NolimitZ32 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:47 am
If domestic is where your heart lies no one can fault you. Sad to see the beastly Z32 go, hope it went to a deserving home.
Yeah, I sold the shell complete with everything EXCEPT the supercharger, engine, and wiring harness. So the new owner will just drop in and go. Sold 20min after I posted it lol

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itsa300zx wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:44 am
WOW, I don't know what to say. Hope the new owner appreciates all the hard work that went into it.
Nice looking Vette anyways.

Do you still have the OEM shifter for the Z laying around? I'm still interested.
I do, that thing is in my garage somewhere. I have stuff to mail out Monday so I'll try and remember to ship it to you.

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Sweet thanks bud, let me know how much and I'll PP the funds.

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Well I had my fun with a Supercharged G8 GT that I built, so I decided to put this setup into another Z32...

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Yanked the engine out. It is a LS2 with LS9 cam, dual valvesprings, hardened pushrods, 0821 heads, etc.
LSA supercharger with Kong Performance dual pass lid.

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I am not one for expensive wheels, but I saw some Work D9R locally and had to have them. I think they look great on the z32. It was out of necessity as there was some ugly (IMO) XXR 531 wheels with torn tires on the car at purchase.

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I have a MASSIVE heat exchanger from the G8 that will take a bit of effort to fit. But IATs will not be an issue. I plan on road coursing the car this go round... But anyway, I'll just continue this thread with my new build instead of making another. I already stripped out some useless stuff, did some cleaning, and filmed along the way for YT! But I'll skip all the fluff and get to the good stuff soon - pulling the fuel tank and cleaning / installing new pump, fuel lines, etc..

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