5 speed swap in progress!

[94_240sx]

sweet! ahh i have a non abs 5 speed driveshaft already, i just forgot to put that in the pic!

cool.

hmm, how much did a new pedal cost you.. just the pedal? .. im thinking about just going to the dealership and ordering new bellhousing bolts and new pedal plus bushing, spring and all that...

I think it was like $40-50 including tax. I get some discount though. It's 46540 and some small stuff comes with it.http://www.courtesyparts.com/b....html

Like I said, the longest bell housing bolt(75mm) is no longer available, so you have to get it from a hardware store. Check this thread for the bolts part numbers.

http://my240.epijunkie.com/Aut..._body.

oh and i think im missing the retainer spring to my transmission... where can i find one of those?

Is it 30534? If so, it's just a couple of dollars.

[okinawa drift]

oh wow $40 for the pedal, yeah i think i'm just going to try and repair mine.. haha if that fails then i guess i'll buy a pedal

oh by the way what kind of paint did you use to paint your housings for your clutch and brake pedals? it looks goodand did you sand them? or sandblast them? im using 80 grit to sand all the rust off mine.. but its a pain in the *** to get in the corners inside..

and i tested out my drive shaft to see if it would fit right.. since someone said the dust cover i have may be to an sr, and the ka drive shaft would not fit.. but it fit, its just there is a little gap so dust could still get in.. i guess i could just tape it for now.. haha

[spooled240]

i think 94_240sx has got it from here

[okinawa drift]

also i took off the damper

so now do i just connect the hardline directly to the slave cylinder hose?

like this

haha heres the pedal housing.. pain in the *** to sand... still in progress :S

[94_240sx]

I used plain silver spray paint from Autozone. I just cleaned, roughly sand them and painted over.

Yes, that dust cover doesn't belong to s13/s14 KA. I've never seen SR dust cover before and I know how it looks like now.

You need to bend hardline like this to connect to the bracket and soft line. Be careful not to get a kink. Get Line Wrench from parts store. It's very useful. You won't strip the nut.

Man, looking good so far.

[okinawa drift]

you think i will be able to just live with this dust cover and just maybe tape over it to seal it?.. also when you bent the hardline did you just bend it or did you use some tool to bend it?

i just used vice grips to take the nuts off worked really well, did you have to drill a hole in the frame to mount that braket? or is there a hole in the frame already?

also can't exactly tell where you started to bend it... hmm

this the spot?


Modified by okinawa drift at 9:25 PM 4/29/2008

[94_240sx]

you think i will be able to just live with this dust cover and just maybe tape over it to seal it?

No, driveshaft will rotate, so tape won't work. Try to turn the driveshaft with your hand and see if it touches the dust cover. If so, you better remove it and get the right one. s13 dust cover is like $10 from the dealership. Or you can remove it.

Quote ».. also when you bent the hardline did you just bend it or did you use some tool to bend it? [/quote]With hands...

Quote »did you have to drill a hole in the frame to mount that braket? or is there a hole in the frame already? [/quote]All s13s have threaded hole for the bracket, so you don't have to worry about it.

Quote »also can't exactly tell where you started to bend it... hmm this the spot? [/quote]Yes, that's the spot. Install the hardline and bracket first and bend it. That's the best way to do it.

[okinawa drift]

alright, damn bending the lines with your hands, thats scary haha... im thining about using a pole as a guide or something, but i'll give it a go with my hands when its in.. we'll see how it goes

also what is better to use .. a 1 1/2 hole sawor1 3/8 hole saw

also i was searching for parts does this look about right... im gonna write this down and take it to a local nissan dealership

Engine / Bellhousing Bolts Bolts = 08131-0601A / 60mm length / 4 needed ... $1.44 eaWashers = 08915-2401A / 4 needed …………….. $0.26 eaBolt = 08131-0701A / 70mm length / 1 needed …. NAPAWasher = 08915-2401A ……………………….. $0.26Bolts = 08124-0301F / 35mm / 2 needed ……... $1.72 eaNuts = 08911-2401A / 2 needed ……………… $0.58 eaBolt = 08124-0601F / 65mm / 1 needed ……… $1.85 Nut = 09811-2401A / 1 needed …….. ……….. NAPABolt = 08071-0251A / 25mm / 1 needed …….. $2.86 eaStarter Bolts = 01121-03751 / 95mm / 2 needed ……. $2.58 ea

Bushings / Clutch Pedal Bush Pedal = [46530E] …… $5.99 Bush Pedal = [46534] ………. $6.06 Pad Pedal = [46530N] ……$5.14 Spring Return = [46586] ……$7.34


Modified by okinawa drift at 12:46 AM 4/30/2008

[1jz240sx]

looking good bro. keep up the good work

[94_240sx]

also what is better to use .. a 1 1/2 hole sawor 1 3/8 hole saw

1 1/2 is better. 1 3/8 hole saw is a little too small I guess.

Nut = 09811-2401A / 1 needed …….. ……….. NAPA

It's not 08911. 08911-2401A is the right number

Bushings / Clutch Pedal Bush Pedal = [46530E] …… $5.99 Bush Pedal = [46534] ………. $6.06 Pad Pedal = [46530N] ……$5.14 Spring Return = [46586] ……$7.34

46530E, 46534, 46530N...etc. These are not part number. You should print out the diagram and take it with you to the dealership.

[KFL]

hmm is the holes for the Master cylinder supposed to have that THING sticking out like that?

should i rip that out? ... i already tried and bent the wall behind it slightly... wtf is that? this normal?

1-Yes this is normal for a s13, a s14 is all flat no bolts

2-You have a s14 clutch pedal fyi, a s13 pedal has a metal spacer that goes into those metal sockets in the picture. Then it has some thread for it to catch the clutch master cylinder. My only thing would be some play side to side, then again it might work.(Never installed a 14 pedal into a 13)A S14 pedal goes all the way in and sits at firewall.

Clutch pedal is held in by 3 bolts, 2 on clutch master cylinder, and 1 on upper pedal.

A buddy of mine installed a s13 clutch pedal into his s14. We had to use washers..to space it out to get the upper bolt on pedal to line up.

When drilling with a holesaw have a good drill, my buddy fragged his firewall,warped,distorted slightly using a weak drill. WIth a good drill it only take 30seconds. You can mark the center of hole with marker, use a very small drill bit use that hole to line up the holesaw done in less than 30seconds.

Don't worry about the dust cover until trans is in, there is always a little slack in driveshaft so it may turn out to be correct. Also I put in a s13 trans into my s14 recently, I had the same identical dust cover,,they changed across some years. I had to pull it off and install my s14 dust cover.

[diggles240]

...'Also I put in a s13 trans into my s14 recently'

sorry for threadjack okinawa.

KFL- i am starting my swap into my s14 and have all s13 parts. any pain the arse things, in general, that i should be aware of- major issues with swapping bellhousings in order to keep the s14 crank angle sensor configuration? also, is the s13 flywheel dustplate interchangeable? thanks man.

diggs

/threadjack

[KFL]

sorry for threadjack okinawa.

KFL- i am starting my swap into my s14 and have all s13 parts. any pain the arse things, in general, that i should be aware of- major issues with swapping bellhousings in order to keep the s14 crank angle sensor configuration? also, is the s13 flywheel dustplate interchangeable? thanks man.

diggs

/threadjack

-flywheel,dustshield etc. is the same across the board for the ka24de.-you have to use a s14 driveshaft for ur car abs, non-abs. -you have to used a manual s14 speed sensor

-bellhousings you can either swap the s14 over onto the 13 or just drill a hole for the sensor and tap a bolt to hold it in place. -if you use a s13 clutch pedal you have to use washers to space it out, to line up the the upper clutch pedal bolt. Do not bolt it in until you have got that 3rd bolt lined up and have proper amount of washers in place.-if you want no check engine lights you have to use a manual ecu if your car is a 96 I would look for a 96..though I would think a 97/98 would work but are harder to find.

You can find the electrical stuff you have to do..neutral position,reverse lights you don't need to do the other things unless you want a straight to the tee stock setup..push clutch pedal down to start etc. http://www.ka24development.com....html*Crank angle just counts number of teeth, from memory doesn't do much of anything just some obd2 mumbo crap.

[okinawa drift]

1-Yes this is normal for a s13, a s14 is all flat no bolts

2-You have a s14 clutch pedal fyi, a s13 pedal has a metal spacer that goes into those metal sockets in the picture. Then it has some thread for it to catch the clutch master cylinder. My only thing would be some play side to side, then again it might work.(Never installed a 14 pedal into a 13)A S14 pedal goes all the way in and sits at firewall.

Clutch pedal is held in by 3 bolts, 2 on clutch master cylinder, and 1 on upper pedal.

A buddy of mine installed a s13 clutch pedal into his s14. We had to use washers..to space it out to get the upper bolt on pedal to line up.

When drilling with a holesaw have a good drill, my buddy fragged his firewall,warped,distorted slightly using a weak drill. WIth a good drill it only take 30seconds. You can mark the center of hole with marker, use a very small drill bit use that hole to line up the holesaw done in less than 30seconds.

Don't worry about the dust cover until trans is in, there is always a little slack in driveshaft so it may turn out to be correct. Also I put in a s13 trans into my s14 recently, I had the same identical dust cover,,they changed across some years. I had to pull it off and install my s14 dust cover.

hey, you sure its to an s14? this came out of an s13 hatchback, and this pedal compares to the clutch pedal for 89-94..

heres some pics of the fix!

haha and still sanding the housing

also went to autozone today to buy some stuff for the pedals / engine / transmission, the 1 1/2 hole saw didn't come with the other peice it connects to :S.. hmmm..

is this everything for the transmission? like am i missing anything?

and does anyone know the size of the bolts that go here for the slave cylinder

[okinawa drift]

anyone know the difference between s14 and s13 clutch pedal? im pretty sure mine is an s13 clutch pedal lol

[94_240sx]

Looks like mine, so it's from s13.

Pedal repair looks pretty good, man.

I think you need 14mm bolts for the slave cylinder. Do you have some bolts laying around? Try some.

You don't miss anything on the transmission. Replace throw out bearing for sure. Here's the write up.zerothread?id=316626

Clean up the bell housing. It's just dusty, so it'll come out easy with some degreaser+tooth brush. Keep us posted.

[okinawa drift]

w00t! alright thanks

oh an did you clear coat your clutch pedal housing after you painted it? mine looks kind of ****ty lol, you can see my finger prints... ****! did you wet sand yours after you spray painted it?

looks good man

[94_240sx]

I like rebuilding stuff, but that's too far. I just roughly got rid of rust & grease and spray painted with $5 rattle can. It took less than 5 min to do so. Use cloth hanger, so you won't touch the housing when you spray paint it.

[okinawa drift]

damn i should of did the cloths hanger with my clutch housing, my brake pedal housing turned out alot better than my clutch pedal housing.. and less work.. lol

heres some pics.. you can see my fingerprints on the housing

[okinawa drift]

i used anti-seize lubricant for the spring, you think that would be ok? lol it was silver

also i am having a really hard time trying to get the auto brake pedal out.. i managed to get all 4 nuts off, i just have to wiggle it out somehow.. i just left the steering column in, i tried removing it but it did not work out..

the only thing that is preventing me from removing my brake pedal is the brake master cylinder is in the way, i tried pushing it out, but it won't go out far enough... should i disconneect the hardlines and just removed the brake booster?

[BMAR240SX]

Why didn't you just cut the pedal in half or something in stead of installing a another one?

[94_240sx]

also i am having a really hard time trying to get the auto brake pedal out.. i managed to get all 4 nuts off, i just have to wiggle it out somehow.. i just left the steering column in, i tried removing it but it did not work out..

the only thing that is preventing me from removing my brake pedal is the brake master cylinder is in the way, i tried pushing it out, but it won't go out far enough... should i disconneect the hardlines and just removed the brake booster?

There are 2 nuts on the column. Did you remove them too? You can drop the column more if you remove them.

Open the hood and try to pull the booster from the firewall.

[okinawa drift]

i did, i managed to pull the booster about 6 inches away, but it wasn't enough clearance to get the brake pedal out.. i was afraid if i pulled it out further i would bend something... should i disconnect the hardlines?

[94_240sx]

You have to press the pedal and wiggle it out.

[okinawa drift]

i was, its just the metal rod from the master cylinder keeps getting caught on the brake pedal housing :S

[Trax07]

I pulled the booster all the way out snapped off the lil white thing but no biggie and I also took off the 12mm bolts to let the steering column sorta hang...

[okinawa drift]

ahhh i see, did you disconnect the hardlines to the brake booster? or did you just bring it as far back as you could? im afraid of bending the hardlines. .lol

[94_240sx]

I didn't disconnect the hardlines. If you do, you'll have to bleed the lines and it's not fun.

[okinawa drift]

ahh i managed to drop the steering column to the floor and YANK the automatic brake out, but now ... how do i install the other brake back in? lol.. is it going to be as much a struggle to get it in there as it was to get it out?

[pflicht]

Its coming along pretty well! I like. Im just glad, though, that I don't have to do this swap.