nice car cody. what kind of paint did you paint the motor with?codyace wrote:
I actually had tried to go the past 3 weeks at ATCO, but had so much other **** going on in life that I couldn't!
I'm also hoping for similar trap speeds....I just wish I was a better driver, to get the ET's to back it up too. Used slicks are a MUST purchase this winter/spring.
As far as the dyno, it's regarded as being the most accurate and middle reading ones in the general 100 mile radius. I too thought my dyno was high at first, but when compared to the many other cars (both n/a, turbo) it reads darn near dead on to what it should.
About Swain Technology Coatings, Inc. from http://www.swaintech.comMustangManV6 wrote:What is swained? Never heard of this
The manifold and turbo were honed by Extrude Hone (www.gethoned.com) It's a high tech puddy that they force through the part, and being that it's liquid based, it flows much like air would, and shines/ports/cleans up everything. SVT Contours had their intakes factory extrude honed...Deadrodent wrote:Hey cody, did you hone the manifold/turbo yourself? if you did you think you could enlighten the rest of the forum on how to do this? I'm looking to use a similar setup as you
I hear ya on that...no use in running that big lazy housing. They put down good power, but I absolutly lag...and .86 housings spool like t3/t4's do...redtop91 wrote:Nice work. It is good to see this as I will/was considering getting the larger A/R for 400 whp. Less lag and equal power FTW!
The paint is called 'Aluma-Blast'. You can find it at most automotive stores in the Northeast....being that my dad/uncle run a truck repair shop, we had cans of it laying around from painting truck engines and trannys etc etc....corey240 wrote:nice car cody. what kind of paint did you paint the motor with?
Eyh, I'm making 400 on a intitial tune without my water/alcy injection or cam gears....If I make 420 whp and 360 ft lbs when all said and done, I will be a very happy man, as it will make big turbo power, with small turbo spool....agian those .86 housings are a tad lazy....t3/t4 spool-esque....FusionR300zx wrote:now slap on a .86 real quick and lets see the difference
http://www.swaintech.com....MustangManV6 wrote:What is swained? Never heard of this
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It's an actual Ford Cobra MAF (p/n: F1SZ-12B579-A). It's been the MAF of choice at Jim Wolf Tech, and is easy to find. Wireing it is extremely easy as well! You do however need the ECU programmed to except the larger (3'') maf however. (FWIW: JWT also offers the 90mm Lightning Truck MAF program as well.plainzwalker wrote:When the OP said Cobra MAF, is that the Ford Cobra or a brand name? If its the Ford one, how does it benefit? Is it hard to wire up?
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I honestly forget. I got in on a group deal, and then also recieved a military discount...I'd like to say in the 100ish range...Poor_S13_Driver wrote:Awesome build my friend. I am very curious about swain coating and just went over their website. Sounds awesome. If you dont mind me asking how much was the coating for the exhaust manifold?
SAFC's are simply a 300 dollar way to hack up your harness. For everyone that thinks they need it to correct a 'rich' ecu, there are an double amount of those who have screwed somtehing up by not having them tuned.Poor_S13_Driver wrote:Another thing I was curious about is your JWT tune. I noticed you dont have a SAFC like I see most other people using to correct the notoriously rich tune associated with his ecus. Yet it seems like your car is running on something very precisely tuned to be making those awesome numbers. Thanks again
Torque just seems "low" because of the Intake Manifold. The Greddy Intake Manifold is larger and is meant to flow more air at higher RPM which keeps torque higher towards redline which makes for more HP. Stock Manifold flows best at midrange which at high rpm the torque dies off and so does the HP. Remember, HP is just a calculation of an amount of torque over a period of time.redtop91 wrote:+1 to that. Quick question to the OP. While 400whp is an amazing feat on the .64 I have a qualm with the wheel torque numbers. Why so low? Was it tuned for max hp at the expense of torque? Or was it a balanced tune? I'm curious because I am mimmicking your setup.
Tune is a balanced tune...not for high hp or trq...I wanted somethin safe for HPDE days, and for the street. 330 ft lbs is (IMO) on par to where a smaller t2 based turbine turbo should be.redtop91 wrote:+1 to that. Quick question to the OP. While 400whp is an amazing feat on the .64 I have a qualm with the wheel torque numbers. Why so low? Was it tuned for max hp at the expense of torque? Or was it a balanced tune? I'm curious because I am mimmicking your setup.
I'm goin to disagree. After dynoing my pals turbo sentra with damn near similar mods, we found that both cars ended having the exact same spool up (he has stock intake) and trq numbers until the top end, where the combo of intake and turbo compressor choice came through. I think with these smaller based turbos, that the greddy IM isn't killing low end like it does on the bigger turbo setups, mainly because we're not fighting any lag.DrifterProdigy85 wrote:
Torque just seems "low" because of the Intake Manifold. The Greddy Intake Manifold is larger and is meant to flow more air at higher RPM which keeps torque higher towards redline which makes for more HP. Stock Manifold flows best at midrange which at high rpm the torque dies off and so does the HP. Remember, HP is just a calculation of an amount of torque over a period of time.
I really believe that's doubtful, really do. Even FWD guys aren't seeing gains/losses like that with O2 and O2 style manifolds when using such small turbos. I don't see a little t28 based turbo making 350 wheel foot lbs on a 2.0 without cam gears, and really spinning it. I understand the whole long runner = torque, but there IMO isn't enough volume in that manifold to support the long runers. Now what would be intersteing is the greddy plenum's size, with some matched longer runnersDrifterProdigy85 wrote:Need a better comparison IMO. There two differently setup motors. Dyno yours at 17psi to match your friends 17psi and see what torque is. Higher boost creates higher torque readings. And yours matches your friends torque @ 17psi from the intake manifold. If you would of had stock IM @ 20psi, you would have been more at 350tq.
S13FASTBACKSR wrote:i thought cam gears didnt make any power or torque gains..i thought they were pointless or bought just for more precision timing?
By advancing exhaust cams at a minimum (usually 2-3 degrees) you will always find increased low end torque and let the engine breath easier on smaller turbo/oem manifold. After looking into it, I have seen examples of this in FWD SR setups, and thought it would be silly to not try them out for their cost and at a miminum to keep manifold pressure lower.S13FASTBACKSR wrote:lol well its what i heard so then i figured a good person to ask would be scott of enthalpy and thats pretty much what he told me, is that cam gears are just for more precise timing, they dont really make any power gains
My car, being such a smaller respnsive turbo, may not like thoe 4.36's. I loved my 411's in my Mustangs/Trucks, but it may make 1 and 2 even more useless than they are....however I would love to try them someday for kicks.Deadrodent wrote:how would a lower gear ratio affect the powerband? let's say a 4.36? would you lose a considerable amount of top end power?
Supposedly yes, but we recently ran my pals Sentra with open downpipe, and saw NO noticable spool up or tranisient response gains. Maybe 100 rpm...maybe.Deadrodent wrote:on another tangent, would an exhaust cut-out increase response?