240 or WRX

[Onizuka]

i want a nissan stagea, its my favorite car on the planet.

[lessthanjakejohn]

i want a nissan stagea, its my favorite car on the planet.

who wouldn't? http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/html/stagea.html

[Holisticbeatz]

a 240 isn't a trend. Go and buy your damn Subaru. All aboard the bandwagon!

[ZERO]

Subarus are great cars. I love boxer engines, hell... my dream car is a 1973 Porsche 911 RS.

IMO Subarus are really fun to drive, but I wouldn't want to own one. Plus, WRXs (not STIs) come with a transmission problem already out or the factory. They have a weak second gear. Not only that but they are becoming a fad and if you know anything about the tuner world, it's all about how unique you can be. Why start out with a disadvantage?

If you want a WRX go for it. After all it is you who will be driving it and enjoying it, so why should you care what everybody else has to say? Define your goals and go for them. Don't let anyone sway you, but think things through before you take a decision... just my contribution.

[JustinStrife]

A friend of mine is getting rid of his 88' RX-7 Turbo II and buying the new Subaru STI. All he talks about is how it will own all. He's a cool friend and all(he's helped me get into imports and has taught me alot along the way even tho he's several years younger then me) but I wanna beat the piss out of him for his arrogance. He won't get the STI till October for his b-day(when he has the 15k down payment he's saving for) so that leaves me time to decide whether to go balls out with my Sil-Eighty and RB25DET engine swap, or just get an EVO and take him to town on his home court.

Ahhh either way I'm gonna humble that kid to everyone elses' levels...

[SmithSR]

Insurance on a WRX sucks. From a performance standpoint, go WRX. Yes the 240 has great potential, but the WRX is much easier to get high HP out of (your almost 100 HP ahead to start with). Plus like everyone already mentioned, AWD!From a looks stand point, go 240. I personally think the WRX is ugly, looks kinda like a frog to me.

this whole thread may be dead, but i must comment. Porsche's president says matter of factly that the design of their headlights comes from "nature", specifically, frogs. You sayin a Porsche is fugly??

[Matthew]

The fact that you have a suscription to Super Street proves that you do not value your money.I dont care about what car you get, but cancel that suscription and get one to GRM.riceboi!

[JJ240]

I read super street. Its funny and has some cool cars. Theres nothing wrong with reading superstreet. Just dont try to plan and build your car with it.

[gibbo80]

If you got a 240 and took the extra 10 -16k money saved and threw it all back into the car i think you could probably have a car that could beat the wrx in everything except rally caring and grocery hauling (if you got a s13 hatch you might be able to keep up in the grocery hauling:pface ) Just the thoughts i have.

Why have a car that if someone else goes to the dealership can have the same car when you could build a car that you would probably have a hard time seeing again on the road.

[big jon's 240]

You sayin a Porsche is fugly??

No, but a WRX sure is.

And JustinStrife, dont get an EVO if you want to beat your friends STi, it wont get the job done. The STi is faster than the EVO 8.

Oh, almost forgot, the EVO 8's are fugly too!

[JJ240]

I think lancers look better than wrx personally. Lancers have as much potential as an STI, just have to do a little to catch up. Unless you want to take off the straight track, then the lancer could win stock I think.

[nnkfws333]

Well think about it? How much was a 240sx back then and then compare that to a WRX. There about the same price. I always look at it stock for stock. the only problem I see with doing swaps and mods are you always run into problems with maint. Just my two cents.

[JustinStrife]

I don't really like the Evo 8 as they call it. My favorite was always the Evo III and Evo VI(can we say Bozz Speed Evo VI?)

Oh well looks like I'm just gonna have to build an STI killer Sil-Eighty and call it a day

Nissan power baby!

[wingzero]

Evo IV and V are my favorites, cosmetically.

I would take a wrx in a heartbeat, but on the other hand, I have fallen in love with my 240 and civic, and would never agree to getting rid of either one. But I don't think the WRX is ugly, if anything I'm glad they came up with an original design, it'll take some time for it to grow on us, did anyone see Jun's wrx on the cover of last month's super street? That is a seriously sweet-*** car, both in looks and power, but mostly power, damn! But boxer engines are a bit more of a pain to work on, and I can barely afford the insurance for my 240 and civic (I'm not even paying insurance for my 240 anymore because it's been sitting in the garage for the last 3 months) I'm pretty sure there's no way I'd be able to afford insurance on a wrx. But they are pretty fast. but when the evoVII comes out, it will be obliterated. After that car comes out, people will have a very hard time talking smack about four-bangers or Japanese cars......

P.S. reading super street doesn't make you a ricer. Even though most of their readers are ricers (look at the reader's ride sections and read some of the letters they get), they do have some of the best feature rides of any magazine, but they are a bit light on the tech aspects, a lot of the stuff looks like it was written to high school kids, I'd stick to SCC for anything tech-related. But SS is still a good mag, funny too.

[JustinStrife]

Well I was given about 30 SS and SCC magazines from my friends while I was in the hospital(two weeks of hell not including the downtime at home on disability)

I agree SCC is a better magazine for technical stuff, but I still enjoy SS just to check stuff out.

[JJ240]

I feel like sport compact tries to be more of a respectable "motor trends" type of car magazine, but i dont want a magazine for any technical info or stock car comparisons or anything so i prefer SS for pure entertainment

[nlzmo400r]

A friend of mine is getting rid of his 88' RX-7 Turbo II and buying the new Subaru STI. All he talks about is how it will own all. He's a cool friend and all(he's helped me get into imports and has taught me alot along the way even tho he's several years younger then me) but I wanna beat the piss out of him for his arrogance. He won't get the STI till October for his b-day(when he has the 15k down payment he's saving for) so that leaves me time to decide whether to go balls out with my Sil-Eighty and RB25DET engine swap, or just get an EVO and take him to town on his home court.

Ahhh either way I'm gonna humble that kid to everyone elses' levels...

well considerint the EVO isnt as fast as the upcoming STi, i wouldnt rush out and get one, unless u plan on modding it of course

[SmithSR]

With all due respect, Nismo400R, just coz a car may be capable of high speeds does not mean some young jerk with no skill can operate it properly. I'm sure we've all seen the idiot try and launch his FWD too hard.

[SmithSR]

I must edit myself. I was not referring to any member of this board with my comment "the idiot". I was speaking of the occasional rice a rony in his dodge neon or Focus or some other crap heap.

[KoukiS14]

I've driven lots of 240s, test drove ONE WRX. . now that you know where I come from. .

I didn't like driving the WRX NEARLY as much as I do the 240sx. . it's quick, but I can't imagine making it FASTER will make it better. . it doesn't feel special, it's definately not a sports car. . .it can't fill the spot the 240sx does. .

I'd take it for DAMN sure though, but not in lieu of the 240

my .02

[JJ240]

A friend and I are planning a test drive-a-thon soon. I really want to try the new STI and EVO, anyone know when the STI will actually be on lots?

[nlzmo400r]

A friend and I are planning a test drive-a-thon soon. I really want to try the new STI and EVO, anyone know when the STI will actually be on lots?

for a brand new STi on hte showroom floor the day they are available, expect an easy 37k, and really, the EVO is based now at about 33-34k

[nlzmo400r]

With all due respect, Nismo400R, just coz a car may be capable of high speeds does not mean some young jerk with no skill can operate it properly. I'm sure we've all seen the idiot try and launch his FWD too hard.

no offense taken man, i know, ive seen so many rich old guys who buy vipers, and get beat badly by much more underpowered cars, it all depends on the driver, hoewver, i was just ASSUMING that both guys are about equal drivers, and if the drivers each had a decent launch, decent shifts etc. then id have a hard time believing the EVO would come out on top

[implict]

240sx.

[nlzmo400r]

240sx.

short but sweet, depends on what ur lookin for tho

[nismodave]

Wrx vs SR 240.....no comp!!!!

Driven 2 of them (wrx) nice grip.....too heavy feeling... feels like a sedan.

Plus Ive smoked modded ones EASILY!

My 2 cents.

[Cold_Zero]

A friend and I are planning a test drive-a-thon soon. I really want to try the new STI and EVO, anyone know when the STI will actually be on lots?

I have been told September for the Indianapolis area.

I have owned both cars and I love both cars. As people have said, both cars are totally different.

I will list the reason why I bought my WRX.1. Performance from the factory. I am buying a house this month and I didn’t want to have a project car/JDM engine for my daily driver. Sheot happens and if you have to make a decision about making a house payment and fixing your car, the car will loose.2. The car has a warranty. My 1991 240 didn’t.3. The WRX has a huge aftermarket following. You can order parts from Japan, Europe, Australia and America. The problem is not finding aftermarket parts; it’s deciding what to buy from the myriads of parts.4. Subaru has been limiting the production numbers of WRX’s. They have not over saturated the market with WRX’s. This will help resale value and you don’t see a lot of them out on the road. It kind makes you stick out in the crowd.5. The WRX comes in a wagon and a sedan. I know that a lot of people prefer a car that is a coupe (since it looks sportier), but I like the functionality of having a Sedan that people can actually sit in the back of. When we went down to the last BG meet, we had 3 tall guys in the car. 6. It comes with an all wheel drive system. In rain and in snow, the WRX acts like a champ. This winter here in Indy has been pretty brutal and having AWD has been a God sent. When people talk Sheot about the WRX, I just ask them if they can run full boost in the snow. 7. The WRX has a lot of untapped potential. By just freeing up the intake and the exhaust will make the WRX scream. Some WRX owners claim that they have freed up 40hp by removing the cats in the car. 8. When I bought the car, everything that was in its performance class was way too expensive. BMW’s and Audis were way over priced and didn’t produce the numbers that the WRX could.9. The car will do 140mph from the factory. It may not be Q45 fast (have to give Fred his props), but for a subcompact that is about as fast as I want to be going.10. The Impreza has had a good life in the 2.5RS, WRX, 22B and the STi all over the world. Subaru has ironed out a lot of problems to get the car where it is today.

I hope this helps you a little bit in your decision. Both cars have their advantages and disadvantages. You really need to decide what you want to do with the car, how much you want to pay to buy the car, maintain it and insure it. Both cars have big Internet and enthusiast followings. You can find fellow enthusiasts in any part of this country.

BTW for the people that say the headlights look ugly? Don’t worry you wont see them for very long. Seriously, there are tons of tricks and mods you can do the front headlights. I have seen people put on Rally lights, STi lights, projector lights and modify their lights (baking them in an oven to open them put and then painting them.)

[Cold_Zero]

if you get the rex, dont push 18PSI on stock eveything!

see here: http://www.i-club.com/forums/s...ber=1

read it all =D

Can a stock SR20DET or KA24DET run on 18psi? 18psi on any engine seems to be a lot of boost.

[wingzero]

On an Sr20, anything past 13-15 psi (15 is really pushing it) is asking for trouble on the stock motor.

[JustinStrife]

Definetly depends on what you're looking to do with the car. I'm in agreement with pretty much everyone here!