Fundamentally, this statement is wrong. You cannot vary compression ratio on any of those engines. That is a big deal. There is far more potential (and complexity) in tuning when adding that in. This engine has higher thermal efficiency than any of them. Based on the artificial nature of the output ratings, the initial offering is in no way the limit of the engine. Nissan has already stated that this engine is just the starting point for the architecture.
Well, this is pretty much where this class of luxury compact lifted wagons/hatchback/crossovers (or whatever you want to call it) seems to be headed.sev wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:35 pmI love my ex35, I do feel that this replacement is a step backwards. I'm sorry, I cannot be excited about a front wheel drive, transverse engined, CVT based platform replacing my EX35/EX37/QX50... As an enthusiast, these are all the wrong items that brought me to this platform initially.
I've been a BMW guy for almost 20 years. The EX35 gave the BMW offerings a run for their money in price/performance and most of all, beat BMW's by a mile on reliability. That's why I bought a Ex35.
I dont feel that any of those items remain with the QX50's replacement. I'll be looking elsewhere, like XIS says, probably Cadilac, Subaru, or something else sporty.
lne937s wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:43 amFundamentally, this statement is wrong. You cannot vary compression ratio on any of those engines. That is a big deal. There is far more potential (and complexity) in tuning when adding that in. This engine has higher thermal efficiency than any of them. Based on the artificial nature of the output ratings, the initial offering is in no way the limit of the engine. Nissan has already stated that this engine is just the starting point for the architecture.
Great post. I bought my EX35 because they are reliable, decent room with the hatch, RWD biased AWD and a great engine. The trans is meh, ok, and the phone integration pre 2010 could be much better (WTF do I have a CF card slot?), but those weren't why I bought it. It's a lifted coupe with a hatch, and I love mine. Glad it only has 78k km on it, going to last a long time. As an enthusiast, they are fantastic vehicles.sev wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:35 pmMeh, im with XIS, color me unimpressed. Sure the engine is a technological marvel, but they could have done more to be competitive on paper. I think overall we're losing out on another enthusiast model.
I love my ex35, I do feel that this replacement is a step backwards. I'm sorry, I cannot be excited about a front wheel drive, transverse engined, CVT based platform replacing my EX35/EX37/QX50... As an enthusiast, these are all the wrong items that brought me to this platform initially.
I've been a BMW guy for almost 20 years. The EX35 gave the BMW offerings a run for their money in price/performance and most of all, beat BMW's by a mile on reliability. That's why I bought a Ex35.
I dont feel that any of those items remain with the QX50's replacement. I'll be looking elsewhere, like XIS says, probably Cadilac, Subaru, or something else sporty.
That's just me, i'm sure the replacement will sell like hotcakes.
I'd love to be in the service dept after a number of these 4 cylinder inventions are on the market. Great to watch the techs trying to figure out why this and that is happening and how to go about figuring out the fix! Even if Infiniti has the software for the fixes.... where are those that understand how to work the computers to understand all the steps in trying to find out from all the choices what the fix is? In addition... most techs at new car dealerships are fresh out of mechanic school. I'm not feeling all warm and fuzzy having these newbies working on my New expensive Infiniti! Gheeze.EX35WinterBeater wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:28 pmGreat post. I bought my EX35 because they are reliable, decent room with the hatch, RWD biased AWD and a great engine. The trans is meh, ok, and the phone integration pre 2010 could be much better (WTF do I have a CF card slot?), but those weren't why I bought it. It's a lifted coupe with a hatch, and I love mine. Glad it only has 78k km on it, going to last a long time. As an enthusiast, they are fantastic vehicles.sev wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:35 pmMeh, im with XIS, color me unimpressed. Sure the engine is a technological marvel, but they could have done more to be competitive on paper. I think overall we're losing out on another enthusiast model.
I love my ex35, I do feel that this replacement is a step backwards. I'm sorry, I cannot be excited about a front wheel drive, transverse engined, CVT based platform replacing my EX35/EX37/QX50... As an enthusiast, these are all the wrong items that brought me to this platform initially.
I've been a BMW guy for almost 20 years. The EX35 gave the BMW offerings a run for their money in price/performance and most of all, beat BMW's by a mile on reliability. That's why I bought a Ex35.
I dont feel that any of those items remain with the QX50's replacement. I'll be looking elsewhere, like XIS says, probably Cadilac, Subaru, or something else sporty.
That's just me, i'm sure the replacement will sell like hotcakes.
That said, the general car buying public aren't enthusiasts. They are people who I think will eat this new car up. Actually when I read about this new engine, I actually got excited for it. Big torque from 1600 rpm sounds great, and the mpg upgrade would be very welcomed. But I won't be buying one.
Can't speak on behalf of Infiniti, didn't have many dealers as clients. But other OEM's tend to have pretty extensive training courses for things like this. I would anticipate there'd be at least one master tech from each dealer going to receive training, and they'd be the ones pulled onto these jobs until others are fully trained. Just a hunch though.Bocatrip wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:43 pmI'd love to be in the service dept after a number of these 4 cylinder inventions are on the market. Great to watch the techs trying to figure out why this and that is happening and how to go about figuring out the fix! Even if Infiniti has the software for the fixes.... where are those that understand how to work the computers to understand all the steps in trying to find out from all the choices what the fix is? In addition... most techs at new car dealerships are fresh out of mechanic school. I'm not feeling all warm and fuzzy having these newbies working on my New expensive Infiniti! Gheeze.EX35WinterBeater wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:28 pm
Great post. I bought my EX35 because they are reliable, decent room with the hatch, RWD biased AWD and a great engine. The trans is meh, ok, and the phone integration pre 2010 could be much better (WTF do I have a CF card slot?), but those weren't why I bought it. It's a lifted coupe with a hatch, and I love mine. Glad it only has 78k km on it, going to last a long time. As an enthusiast, they are fantastic vehicles.
That said, the general car buying public aren't enthusiasts. They are people who I think will eat this new car up. Actually when I read about this new engine, I actually got excited for it. Big torque from 1600 rpm sounds great, and the mpg upgrade would be very welcomed. But I won't be buying one.
They got rid of that? Seems silly. Maybe it just wasn't on the trim level they had at the show? Doubting it, since I'd think the show one would have all the bells and whistles.Eamess wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:55 pmI sat in the new QX50 tonight at NAIAS in Detroit. It was comforting. The appearance is something I got used to very much. The specs, not so much....except for the welcoming 27 mpg. With that said on mpg, I might as well wait for an electric vehicle daily driver. What drew me to the Ex35/37 was probably the powered rear seat downs for cargo space.... It turns out the new QX50 lost that option.
The rep said that they will be available for test drive in March and I'm honestly waiting for the drive to convince that it's good.
I tell you what, I have had my QX30s for only a week now and already missed that power rear seat option twice!
I asked the representative and that kind of option won't be available. I was very surprised considering how the Ex35 were advertising that function and it was fun in its own right to hold the button and watch the seats return.EX35WinterBeater wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:53 amThey got rid of that? Seems silly. Maybe it just wasn't on the trim level they had at the show? Doubting it, since I'd think the show one would have all the bells and whistles.Eamess wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:55 pmI sat in the new QX50 tonight at NAIAS in Detroit. It was comforting. The appearance is something I got used to very much. The specs, not so much....except for the welcoming 27 mpg. With that said on mpg, I might as well wait for an electric vehicle daily driver. What drew me to the Ex35/37 was probably the powered rear seat downs for cargo space.... It turns out the new QX50 lost that option.
The rep said that they will be available for test drive in March and I'm honestly waiting for the drive to convince that it's good.
That said, the power rear seats a frustration in their own right. Because of the lack of rear seat space, they usually won't go down or up by themselves, because the head rest hits the front seats. Anyone else have that issue?
When I bought my 08 EX35 last summer, it was really between them and the first gen RDX. Sporty, smaller SUV was the goal. I enjoyed both but what drew me to the EX was the interior, it was just significantly nicer IMO. Although I still look at the RDX, a turbo engine just opens up opportunities.XIS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:34 amBack to the engine.... ugh. Have you checked out the specs on the new RDX and it's beast of a 2.0 turbo? 272 hp, 280 lbs of torque (stock...you know Hondata will come out with something to add 30-40 hp & torque also)
22/28 mpg, combined 24 (2-3 less than the QX)
Oh...and a 10 speed tranny with paddle shifters instead of the buzz-killing CVT.
I still think that after 20 yrs, this engine would be a bit more powerful and they should have at least a 7 speed DCT paired to it)
Something tells me (logic) that the 2019 RDX will be quite a bit more fun than the 2019 QX50
Maybe you'll go full circle and end up in another RDX sometime in your future .XIS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:34 amBack to the engine.... ugh. Have you checked out the specs on the new RDX and it's beast of a 2.0 turbo? 272 hp, 280 lbs of torque (stock...you know Hondata will come out with something to add 30-40 hp & torque also)
22/28 mpg, combined 24 (2-3 less than the QX)
Oh...and a 10 speed tranny with paddle shifters instead of the buzz-killing CVT.
I still think that after 20 yrs, this engine would be a bit more powerful and they should have at least a 7 speed DCT paired to it)
Something tells me (logic) that the 2019 RDX will be quite a bit more fun than the 2019 QX50
After driving with Nissan's ATTESA on the EX35 and the SH-AWD on an MDX, I've come to prefer Acura's AWD system. I've never really had an issue with ATTESA; but it was more of a reactive system. SH-AWD, on the other hand, is more predictive and makes the ATTESA in the EX look primitive in comparison. Ford's Twinster AWD system in the Focus RS is similar to SH-AWD in terms of it's general architecture.XIS wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:57 amI had the Gen 1 RDX and added Hondata and it screamed! BUT the MPG was beyond unacceptable (13-17 max average...19 on hwy) and the ride was horrible. The handling (SHAWD) is exceptional though. I traded it for my My EX and it has such a nicer exterior, interior, ride, MPG, etc...
The new 2019 RDX will be much nicer than the 1st gen (and 2nd gen) in every aspect.