16 sec Q45 with Stillen Intake? I need help.

[i30pusher]

What's up. I now have 95 Q45. I ran last night and my best time was a 16.3 @ 89mph. I did this while manually shifting. Whats funny is, I ran a few months back with out the Stillen Intake and my best time was a 16.1. SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME! HOW CAN I GET BETTER TIMES?

[Q_SHIP]

Track conditions and air temp mean a lot. Don't be to worried.

[96Qowner]

I don't think anyone has claimed improved times from a Stillen intake on a Q45, anyway.

[squeefoo]

They suck in hot air from under the hood -lose it and breathe better.

My IAT was ~160F with it on....... run away !!

[jamesmost]

definite track conditions, as well for the intake to work properly your exhaust system will need tuning as well for better flow

[Q_SHIP]

I cant tell you that I have actually seen one but IAT 160!!!! Ditch it or improve upon it.

[Falkdesigns]

As I learned on here a long time ago, the factory intake is cold air to begin with, and a very well designed system. These are not cheap cars that are thrown together. These are premium cars with $$$$$ in development. Stock system sucks cold air from right behind the grille, it should get a ram effect at high speed too.

[elwesso]

The only mods I would waste my time would be (futile most likely) attempts to improve the stock design... Put another hole in it or something.....

I dont see how it gets any better than air right behind the grille!

[zinkie13]

Wes...You'll have to check out my CAI sometime. The I drilled a hole in the engine compartment to get to a space behind the bumper, just in front of the wheel well where the cone filter is placed. I definately noticed substantial gain from it.

[maxnix]

With all due respect Zinkie, it's numbers, not feelings that tell the difference. Back to back after switching intakes.

Barry Manilow is not an engineer!

[zinkie13]

Maxnix...the maker of the intake...did do dyno testings and posted them on the forum. It was terry vincent....You can find the picture and posts I'm sure if you would like to look...The actual RWHP gained was I believe an average of 11 hp on numerous runs.....Check it out

[rsiwicki]

Here are a few links you should check out that contain the most comprehensive summary of all know Q45 1/4 runs.....

zerothread?id=96693

zerothread?id=110848

Your stillen intake without a heat shield is no good. You have to build a custom heat shield which ain't easy, but necessary to see any benefit from the intake. I have one on my Q and like it with a custom sealed heat shield.

I can't believe the never ending debate of the pros and cons with and without the Stillen intake. I could be wrong, but I have yet to see a convincing post on NICO by somebody who has "actually" done the mod and say they don't like it besides Q45tech. We have so many people convinced that the mod does not work for which 99% of them have never tried the mod for themselves and they are just echoing the voices of others or other who has only tested the mod.

I will be in Orlando Sat night and Sunday....hit me an email if you want to meet up for an hour or less. Also there is another dude in Orlando with a very nice Q that I told him I would see as well when I go. Check my signature....the car is only slightly modded . Initially...I would half to say it is either your manual shifting or your Q is in need of some TLC. You should be in the high 15's at the very least....but a lot has to do with technique and practice so hard to tell as I don't know your 1/4 experience. I still learn a little something new about 1/4 racing every time I race and I have done well over 55 races...I just neglect to post them all. I have become a 1/4 junkie. If the track is open on Sunday afternoon...I might just join ya for a little 1/4 fun but have to wait to see as my schedule is very busy.

[FarFetched]

Where do you put Air TEmp Sensor when you install cold air intake?What would really look AWESOME is an OFF-ROAD SNORKEL such as this one This would definetely improve your OFF-THE-LINE performance Cheers!

[zinkie13]

Maxnix....here is the link to the post about my CAIhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=26004is 217 a similar number to what most g50's dyno?

[Q45Racing]

I've had my Stillen CAI for over 3 years now, and I wouldnt change it for the world. you can talk all numbers you want , but noticed a diff in throttle response, but what I did to cut down on the under hood heat, I removed my stock intake piping and routed a flexible aluminum piping up to the connector where the piping enters the air box, so cool air from the outside gets in. having a heat shield will also help. I'll try to post pics of what I'm talking about.

[Q45Racing]

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[Q45Racing]

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this is similar to what i did, but without the air filter shield, but it would work if i change my stillen filter to one that would fit

[Q45Racing]

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this retails for $119.00 might be able to modify one for your use., I would try but I'm gonna turbo my Q so it wont do me any good.

[Black95Q]

I lost like .2 secs by manually shifting... so unless you have the ECU/TCU combo its not worth it to mess with it. I'd just keep it in 2nd and floor it the whole way.

Does your car have any other issues? Your trap in a little lower but you should still break into the 15's easily. I ran my time below all stock with a bad alignment and poor tires.

[Fastlane]

My first runs were in the low 16's didn't launch very well but with a little experience I was running consistant 15.4's....... Keep it in second gear and don't shift into third until you are through the traps.___________________________________________________96 Q45 Stock, 15.3 @ 92.47 Moroso 1/19/05 165k2000 Q45 Anniversary 64K

[elwesso]

Fastlane, when did you get the FY33?? have you always had it (IE am i going senile) or is this a new purchase?

[AZhitman]

My "homegrown" "Ram Air" setup (big plastic scoop mounted low in the bumper grille feeding a 3" hose directly into the airbox) works great.

Much improvement from just off idle, and a definite improvement at 40mph+. And it was cheap.

[Fastlane]

Hi Wes........ I've had it for a while now......If you look at my previous posts, you'll see it included. It's a beautiful car with completely different characteristics than the original design.It has snappy low end performance (nice gearing) and is very nimble when the shocks are set for sporting performance. What it lacks is torque......especially at 80mph and higher. That's when the F50 shines......It's lower, wider, heavier and more powerful. It feels more stable at speed with much less wind noise.

I drive 90 highway speed miles every day from mon-fri. I've done in both cars.....given the choice I always take the 96... those of you that have F50's know the incredible feel it has on the highway...........Nothing like passing a couple of semi's and realizing your doing 120 in no time flat.....The pass happens very rapidly. The FY33 doesn't do it. I always think of how great that car would be if they had put the 4.5 in it, pretty much the same performance as the 03-M45.__________________________________________________96 Q45 165k Stock, 15.36 @ 92.47 Moroso 1/19/052000 Q45 Anniversary 64k

[elwesso]

Your referring to the G50 (90-96) and not the F50 (02+). Just wanted to clarify...

Oh, and BTW if you want that little blurb to appear below each post without typing it out everyting time, go to USER CP, and put that in your "signature"..

Did Rob ever let you drive his 94???

[i30pusher]

Hey guys thanks for all your responses. I should have asked some questions before i bought the Stillen Intake. I was pissed when I left the track....rsiwicki I wish I could have linked up with you over the weekend but was outta town........Does anyone have any picks or "How to" on the heat sheild or something else I can do to to eliminate the under the hood heat?.......THANKS

[maxnix]

Ye

Maxnix...the maker of the intake...did do dyno testings and posted them on the forum. It was terry vincent....You can find the picture and posts I'm sure if you would like to look...The actual RWHP gained was I believe an average of 11 hp on numerous runs.....Check it out

Yeah, I remember Tvince. Teh CAI seemed to have a little dip in the power curve. I wonder if the stock dual cahber resonator addressed that issue? Shame it couldn't be developed more.

Depends on the dynamometer, but a healthy VH45DE will get to a calculated 22O HP to 230 HP range. Mustang dynamometer read lower.

[zinkie13]

What do you mean by the dual cahber resonator?

[rsiwicki]

do a search under my screen name and you should find a post about 6 months ago with a pic or two....not the best pic, but gives ya an idea.