$1328 for a 60,000 mile service?

[Mrcjolsen]

The quote doesn't include changing the CVT fluid because I had that done at 50k when the OCD side of my brain got a hold of the idea that I had gotten the car used and didn't really know what happened to it the first 40,000 miles of it's life (it was a rental and lots of people drove it back and forth to the airport).

I also change the cabin air filter myself. But I have no idea what "Frigi Fresh Services." That sounds like something that involves ice cream.

About half the items are quotes on inspections of things that are working fine. I'm sure that if there were issues with any of these things the check engine light would come on or some feature would not work properly. My wife's Volvo had the 60K service done on it the summer before last (at the dealer for half the price as the quote for my Nissan). A few thousand miles later, the power brake unit died. I'm sure they inspected the brakes when they did the 60K service. But the brakes were obviously keeping a secret that they did not want the mechanic to know.

There might be a few things that do need to be done.

The car has AWD, so a "transfer case fluid exchange service" and a "rear differential fluid exchange service" might be in order. Also, I'm sure the coolant could stand to be flushed.

It would be nice if somebody were to lubricate all the door locks and hinges. And a "crankcase oil cleaning service" might also help the car. While they are at it, they could massage the tires and cover the windshield with fresh cucumbers because this quote sounds like a spa treatment for my car instead of a servicing. The car is already spoiled. It lives in my garage and I only drive it back and forth to work when it's too rainy to ride my bike.

As I mentioned I bought the car certified used. I just need to know what needs to be done on the drivetrain to make sure the car lasts me another 60k miles or longer.

[ImStricken06]

While they are at it, they could massage the tires and cover the windshield with fresh cucumbers because this quote sounds like a spa treatment for my car instead of a servicing.

hahahahahahhhahahhaha that was epic dude. very funny.

i think you are right, this sounds more like a scam than anything else. any local shop can do the simple transfercase & rear diff fluid service along with an oil change. they also can check your freon (ice cream service lol) to make sure everything is up to par.

heck, i have DIY's on all of these on here!

[TrevorK]

A service is meant to keep your car in top running condition, it is not meant to necessarily fix what is broken. It is meant to address things that could become broken, or could be cause your vehicle to behave differently than it did from the factory. Brake fluid is a great example, especially on a Rogue (where you seem to change it all the time). If the fluid deterioated and your brakes did not function as well, would you notice the lack of stopping distance? Or would the change be so gradual you would just adapt to it over time?

For example, could you go another 60K without changing your rear diff fluid? Most likely yes.
Would you actually notice any problems? Most likely no.
But then why change it? Because it keeps the car in the condition the manufacturer (who spends millions on research and development, but to be fair, also profit from maintenance).

That said, to each their own on what they choose to service. Even with my beliefs of the above, the millions spent on R&D must give them more insight than I have, I too have chosen to neglect certain maintenance items.

If you post the list (or just a picture) of what they recommend, I am sure everyone could provided their feedback. Because you mention "Frigi Fresh Services", it seems like your dealer is putting their spin on it (like how mine recommends a "battery service") so it does not seem like the typical 60K service.

[RyleyinSTL]

There is often (if not always) a big difference between what Nissan recommends for a service interval and what the dealer recommends. Doing more than Nissan (the manufacture) recommends in the manual is completely unnecessary.

[Mrcjolsen]

[ImStricken06]

dude, skip this crap lol you could have this whole list done over at a private shop for ~$500 or less.

what you really want checked over is the braking system. that is above all, the most important system on any car. and to make matters worse nissan rogues are KNOWN for faulty brake calipers.

[mikess]

dude, skip this crap lol you could have this whole list done over at a private shop for ~$500 or less.

what you really want checked over is the braking system. that is above all, the most important system on any car. and to make matters worse nissan rogues are KNOWN for faulty brake calipers.

I know brakes are wear items, thus, they are not covered under warranty. However, are the calipers covered? I can understand the pads and rotors not being covered, but calipers? I just bought my Rogue ( 2013 model ) last year, it's been just little over a year, however, it came with 5 years bumper to bumper premium warranty. So would the calipers also be covered for the full 5 year or 100,000 km of the warranty.

[TrevorK]

A lot of that maintenance is not Nissan recommended. I would stick with the maintenance that they recommend, they are the engineers behind designing the car and they would logically have the most knowledge about what needs to be done and what does not.

Things like "Premium Universal Coolant Conditioner" scare me. Sure, in the 80's we would use products with our fluids to fix things like leaks, noise, etc. But in this day and age the vehicles have much more engineering behind them and operate within a much tighter tolerance range. I would not be putting anything "universal" into my vehicle, except my vehicle from the 80's that is

I would personally perform the service outlined in the manual and nothing more, unless you are using your vehicle under extreme conditions or have a particular concern. I would hesitate to let someone perform service that the manual does not call for or use products that Nissan themselves never recommends using (conditioners).

In fact, the owner's manual is pretty clear about the use of additives:
Oil additives
NISSAN does not recommend the use of oil
additives. The use of an oil additive is not
necessary when the proper oil type is used and
maintenance intervals are followed.

[MQXtrail]

Its beyond outrageous, its a straight rip off. Most garages doing an oil change will do a complimentary 50 pt inspection in hopes of uncovering further work...Pretty much any place will do a free brake and or muffler inspection if you ask them to. Same deal for tires and suspension components...

They are not even servicing your brake caliper slide pins here. I love how it starts with an oil and filter change and much further they add install premium oil and fuel conditioners. If they are using good quality oil there is zero need for the hocus pocus of oil additives, same goes for good quality fuel. If you have been changing your engine air filter at proper intervals its doubtfull your maf or throtle body are in need of any cleaning, in fact a poor tech can cause more damage than benefit in performing these services. The crankcase cleaning is ridiculous for a 3 year old vehicle if you have doing regular oil changes every 3 to 5 K miles, especially if you use synthetic oil.

You do want to have your transfer case gear oil changed as well as that in rear differential. You will find the proper weight and viscosity fluid in your owners manual, no need for Nissan Genuine...and again any garage or transmission shop can do it. Its less than an hours work.

RE your calipers-- they should be covered under your drivetrain warranty. They are not a wear item, despite what some dealership service advisors claim. However the caliper slider pins especially on the rear are notorious for causing issues unless you have them serviced every year. Driving fast and braking is also like it or not rough on brake components.
Based upon the above list total cost of the various fluids and filters needed is a bit over $200 and cheaper if bought on sale, and a maximum 3 hours work by one tech with a lift. My guess is you would be paying roughly 750 to 800 for six months of road side assistance. Moreover I would be willing to bet big bucks you

[MQXtrail]

Its beyond outrageous, its a straight rip off. Most garages doing an oil change will do a complimentary 50 pt inspection in hopes of uncovering further work...Pretty much any place will do a free brake and or muffler inspection if you ask them to. Same deal for tires and suspension components...

They are not even servicing your brake caliper slide pins here. I love how it starts with an oil and filter change and much further they add install premium oil and fuel conditioners. If they are using good quality oil there is zero need for the hocus pocus of oil additives, same goes for good quality fuel. If you have been changing your engine air filter at proper intervals its doubtfull your maf or throtle body are in need of any cleaning, in fact a poor tech can cause more damage than benefit in performing these services. The crankcase cleaning is ridiculous for a 3 year old vehicle if you have doing regular oil changes every 3 to 5 K miles, especially if you use synthetic oil.

You do want to have your transfer case gear oil changed as well as that in rear differential. You will find the proper weight and viscosity fluid in your owners manual, no need for Nissan Genuine...and again any garage or transmission shop can do it. Its less than an hours work.

RE your calipers-- they should be covered under your drivetrain warranty. They are not a wear item, despite what some dealership service advisors claim. However the caliper slider pins especially on the rear are notorious for causing issues unless you have them serviced every year. Driving fast and braking is also like it or not rough on brake components.
Based upon the above list total cost of the various fluids and filters needed is a bit over $200 and cheaper if bought on sale, and a maximum 3 hours work by one tech with a lift. My guess is you would be paying roughly 750 to 800 for six months of road side assistance. Moreover I would be willing to bet big bucks your out the door bill will be higher after they suggest brake pad and rotor changes, a four wheel alignment, possibly new tires, and worn tie rod ends or control arm bushings...
Good luck-- you will love your NIssan a lot more when you find a better servicing option than the dealership.

[JLD94]

Sounds like a lot od dearler reccommended stuff which is driving up the price. I'm not super keen on my dealer, however one nice thing they do have on their website is a break down of Nissan reccomeneded service, and what they reccomend. Gives a price of each, so as long as it's nissan reccomended I am usually fine with it.

[zakmartin]

Wow. Just wow. That whole dealership checklist just screams, "We despise our customers and we think they're all idiots."

Do your regular oil changes, check the brakes, bushings, bearings, ball joints and linkages (all very simple for anyone with a jack to do). Change your filters. Check the tread on your tires. Top off the windshield washer fluid. Finally, check your serpentine belt for glazing and cracking and replace if necessary (only do this if you have the right tools and a person to help you out - it's a pain.) You're good to go until you hit 100,000 miles.

If your car is a 2011 with 60K, it's far too early to change the coolant. You can check its condition with an anti-freeze hydrometer (about ten bucks at the local auto parts store). Technically, the CVT should last the life of the vehicle unless something in the transmission breaks, in which case, it will need replacement (and you're warranted for many many years and miles on that).

All the dealership is going to do is hook the car into their Nissan Consult computer and the computer will tell them if the CVT fluid needs flushing, if any weirdness is going on with the ECM, BCM, SRS, ABS, etc. etc. Then they're going to put it on a lift and check out all the rubber bits under the car. If they're GOOD, they'll do a sniffer test to check for exhaust leaks. Now a-days, about 90 percent of the diagnostics are done through the OBD-II port.

I'm only surprised that they didn't include blinker fluid change on that list.

[zakmartin]

One last thing, to check your A/C, just shove a thermometer in the vent. At its lowest setting, on Max A/C, it should be about 30 degrees below ambient - unless it's a climate controlled system, and then it should be at the temperature you've set it to on the control panel. There's no point in hooking up a manifold gauge to the high side & low side under the hood unless you're getting a light or hot air when the A/C is on (which means there could be a refrigerant leak and the system needs to be repaired).

This, and what others have said above, should more than suffice for a 60K service on your Rogue. This isn't the 1980s anymore.