viper alarm issue?????

[dat925stunna]

ok im installing a viper 350 plus one way alarm heres my problemi dont know where i hook this up too?

(-) door trigger input(-) instant door trigger input(+) door trigger input

i have a 1990 s13 im also installing door locks can any one assist me im broke and dont wanna pay an installer wen it can be explained to me?i got the wiring diagram from the12volt.com and it doesnt explain that? one more thing i wired the starter kill and the car still starts wen its armed?

[moso]

on our cars we have a negative pulse lock system meaning that a ground signal is sent to our locks to fire them. so you need to wire your door lock signal to ground pulse for open/closed. the wires you want to wire them to are in the drivers side kick panel area orange/black unlocks orange/blue locks. Trigger means trigger the alarm and it wants a ground or positive to trigger the alarm. i wired mine purple behind the instrument cluster to (-) door trigger input, this way when you get a door ajar signal to your cluster the alarm triggers. if you have a hatch you will need to run a separate door trigger line to its interior light. not all the wires on an alarm are used in every car. hope this helps.

[dat925stunna]

on our cars we have a negative pulse lock system meaning that a ground signal is sent to our locks to fire them. so you need to wire your door lock signal to ground pulse for open/closed. the wires you want to wire them to are in the drivers side kick panel area orange/black unlocks orange/blue locks. Trigger means trigger the alarm and it wants a ground or positive to trigger the alarm. i wired mine purple behind the instrument cluster to (-) door trigger input, this way when you get a door ajar signal to your cluster the alarm triggers. if you have a hatch you will need to run a separate door trigger line to its interior light. not all the wires on an alarm are used in every car. hope this helps.

ok the purple wire is which one? theres 2 right? kinda by the chime thingy corect? and how do i wire the door actuators my car never came with them the wires are green and blue do i wire them directly to the blue and green wires on the door lock harness?

[dat925stunna]

o yeah and my car is a 5spd and i noticed wen i start the car the key is turned to the full on position and wen i push in the clutch my motor cranks? that would mean if i drive off my starter will kick every time i shift?

[moso]

you got your wiring wrong. somehow you wired your starter to be always on. when you press your clutch in its completeing the neutral saftey circuit and the starter runs. are you saying your car came with manual locks and your trying to make it power? and the purple wire im talking about is in the gague cluster harness behind the cluster not at the kick pannel.

[Broadfield]

The starter kill is very basic. You will simply cut the heavy gauge black/white wire in your ignition harness. You will wire the green wire of the Viper starter kill relay to the key side of the black/white wire. You will then wire the black wire from the Viper starter kill relay to the non-key side of the black/white wire.

Door trigger, you will only use the green wire on the Viper unit. You will wire that to the red/white wire at the drivers door pin or courtesy light. The red/white wire will catch both doors.

Hatch trigger, you will use the blue wire in the Viper unit and wire it to the red wire at the hatch light.

You will not use the purple wire.

Actuator door locks, you will need either 2 relays and all of the wiring and fuse setup to go along with it, or a DEI 451M relay pack. Once you have either one of these setups I can send you a diagram on how to wire the actuators. Note: you cannot wire the actuators directly to the blue and green wires on the Viper door lock plug.

Toby

[dat925stunna]

The starter kill is very basic. You will simply cut the heavy gauge black/white wire in your ignition harness. You will wire the green wire of the Viper starter kill relay to the key side of the black/white wire. You will then wire the black wire from the Viper starter kill relay to the non-key side of the black/white wire.

Door trigger, you will only use the green wire on the Viper unit. You will wire that to the red/white wire at the drivers door pin or courtesy light. The red/white wire will catch both doors.

Hatch trigger, you will use the blue wire in the Viper unit and wire it to the red wire at the hatch light.

You will not use the purple wire.

Actuator door locks, you will need either 2 relays and all of the wiring and fuse setup to go along with it, or a DEI 451M relay pack. Once you have either one of these setups I can send you a diagram on how to wire the actuators. Note: you cannot wire the actuators directly to the blue and green wires on the Viper door lock plug.

Toby

ok i jus ordered it off ebay im goin to wire the starter kill in the mean time till that arrives then ill hopback on here

[dat925stunna]

do i need 2 relay packs or jus one? man im such a noob

[dat925stunna]

ok where do i plug the ignition(yellow) wire? too i arm the alarm and the motor still cranks? did i do something wrong?

[dat925stunna]

you got your wiring wrong. somehow you wired your starter to be always on. when you press your clutch in its completeing the neutral saftey circuit and the starter runs. are you saying your car came with manual locks and your trying to make it power? and the purple wire im talking about is in the gague cluster harness behind the cluster not at the kick pannel.

yes im adding power locks mine a manaul as of now im having trouble getting the starter kill to work please anybody?

[Broadfield]

ok i jus ordered it off ebay im goin to wire the starter kill in the mean time till that arrives then ill hopback on here

You should of bought all your stuff from me! You only need one 451M.

[Broadfield]

yes im adding power locks mine a manaul as of now im having trouble getting the starter kill to work please anybody?

ok where do i plug the ignition(yellow) wire? too i arm the alarm and the motor still cranks? did i do something wrong?

The yellow wire has to tie into ignition, otherwise the relay won't interrupt the starter wire.... that is why it's not working for you. The ignition wire on your car is a heavy gauge black/red. You also have to make sure the orange wire is attached to the orange wire on the Viper.

[dat925stunna]

The yellow wire has to tie into ignition, otherwise the relay won't interrupt the starter wire.... that is why it's not working for you. The ignition wire on your car is a heavy gauge black/red. You also have to make sure the orange wire is attached to the orange wire on the Viper.

ok thats what another place told me but my car has

BLack/green

Black/yellow

Black/white(what you told me to snip and wire the S.K.R. to)

white/red

blue

i dnt have a black and red i almost paid a shop to get it done but i rather wait another day im in 3 days getting this alarm to work and i havent ordered the relay pack yet i wanted to make sure what i needed how much you letting them go for?

[Broadfield]

Well, it's been years since I have been under the dash of mine, but there may be an intermediate plug on the ignition wires. It's typical that the wires are different colors on each side of the plug. So maybe check that, but otherwise simply test to see which one tests as an ignition.

Well, I sell the relay pack for $14 shipped..... which I'm sure is more than on Ebay. I meant you should of bought the alarm from me. I include all of these parts and wiring info for free.

[dat925stunna]

ok I got the starter kill to work fine now I jus need the DEI 451M relay pack on ebay theyre $5.98 free shipping so let me know ill paypal you if its the same price

[dat925stunna]

ok I got the starter kill to work fine now I jus need the DEI 451M relay pack on ebay theyre $5.98 free shipping so let me know ill paypal you if its the same price

yeah i shouldve i didnt know.... and theres diferent type of 451M relay packs

[Broadfield]

There is only one DEI 451M. I would be losing money if I shipped it to you for that price....sorry.

[dat925stunna]

ok

Well, it's been years since I have been under the dash of mine, but there may be an intermediate plug on the ignition wires. It's typical that the wires are different colors on each side of the plug. So maybe check that, but otherwise simply test to see which one tests as an ignition.

Well, I sell the relay pack for $14 shipped..... which I'm sure is more than on Ebay. I meant you should of bought the alarm from me. I include all of these parts and wiring info for free.

now for the door trigger where do i hook that up too i got every thing done minus that?

[Broadfield]

now for the door trigger where do i hook that up too i got every thing done minus that?

I already went over that in my first post.

[bersh240]

did u call viper up and ask them? don't bother there useless. they don't speak English.

btw broadfield. just sent u an email. sorry its so long.

[dat925stunna]

I already went over that in my first post.

ok wats the diagram for the 451m? youve helped me out so much?

[Broadfield]

Actually, the 451M will come with an installation manual. On page 4 look at diagram D. It is for aftermarket actuators. Done deal! If for some reason it doesn't come with the installation manual, then post on here, and I'll toss up the diagram.

[dat925stunna]

Actually, the 451M will come with an installation manual. On page 4 look at diagram D. It is for aftermarket actuators. Done deal! If for some reason it doesn't come with the installation manual, then post on here, and I'll toss up the diagram.

ok then ill see wats up

[dat925stunna]

ok Ive been sick so I haven't been able to hook up my DEI 451M I noticed mine is a 5 wire module so Im confused how I hook it up It doesnt come with a wiring diagram

[Broadfield]

Im confused how I hook it up It doesnt come with a wiring diagram

Yeah, that's what Ebay will get ya! I'll post up the wiring info later because I'm a nice guy

[dat925stunna]

Yeah, that's what Ebay will get ya! I'll post up the wiring info later because I'm a nice guy

thanx again honestly I should paypal you some money youve been a big help

[dat925stunna]

dude i need that diagram

[Broadfield]

I sent you an email with it.

Toby

[drivinsidewayz86]

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hey the pic is pretty selfexplainatory the lock and unlock on the relays are the small ribbbon cable and the 87a's are the white and brown wires hope this helps

[dat925stunna]

I sent you an email with it.

Toby

thanx bro did u get my email?