Does my 91' LE have an LSD?

Post by **Nashville91s13** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:13 pm

Hey guys. I'm brand new to the forum. I just bought a beautiful black 1,000% stock 91' LE fastback with 101,000 miles and NO FRAME CANCER!!!! Anyway, It has everything seems like. Does it have the LSD? It has the finned dif cover. I haven't had the rear end up to do the wheel spin test. Is there a simple way I can tell without jacking up the back of the car...like in the VIN...or since it has the finned dif cover...?

Post by **xX RB Xx** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:27 pm

Nice name!

Post by **Nashville91s13** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:36 pm

Ah...a fellow Tennessee. My best friend goes to Memphis....Tigers...RAWR!! lol

Post by **93240cooool** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:44 pm

theres a way to tell with the vin im not exactly sure how though, someone will chime in its just late right now.

Post by **Nashville91s13** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:53 pm

93240cooool wrote:theres a way to tell with the vin im not exactly sure how though, someone will chime in its just late right now.

Yea I just figured I'd throw my question out there. These forums are GREAT...I read about problems I don't have and how to do things I don't plan on doing..lol. Also...the factory AM/FM CD/Cassette player is in the car and it turns on and 1 second later it shuts off. I'm guessing it's just a shot unit. I have a really nice JVC Arsenal unit that I'm going to put in this weekend. Hope that fixes it.

Post by **jeff420** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:09 pm

willing to bet thats not a vlsd. the s13 vlsd's have a kickout in the rear for extra capacity and the fins are different. nice 240 though. wish mine was all the same color.

Post by **S14toRPS13** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:29 pm

1. Hold onto the throttle2. Dump the clutch3. Stop the car and get out4. Count your tire marks on the road

Not the best solution, but the fastest and funnest.

Post by **fender-startocaster** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:33 am

S14toRPS13 wrote:1. Hold onto the throttle2. Dump the clutch3. Stop the car and get out4. Count your tire marks on the road

Not the best solution, but the fastest and funnest.

lol good idea, ill probably try this myself.

anyhow just jack up the car, it will take you a few minutes and done!

Post by **rustest86** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:14 am

does it have ABS? if it does then yes. if not then no. that was the only way to get an LSD stock in a usdm 240sx. the lsd was part of the traction control package that also came with ABS.

Post by **Nali** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:31 am

S14toRPS13 wrote:1. Hold onto the throttle2. Dump the clutch3. Stop the car and get out4. Count your tire marks on the road

Not the best solution, but the fastest and funnest.

Do this^, if you cant do this then why does it matter?

Post by **numbnuts240** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:00 am

http://garage.projectraine.com....html

Post by **thematz** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:59 am

Nashville91s13 wrote:Ah...a fellow Tennessee. My best friend goes to Memphis....Tigers...RAWR!! lol

Glad to see the group of Tennesseans grow.

Post by **Nashville91s13** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:39 am

Yes sir....I go to MTSU and there are a hand full of 240s but I haven't met any yet. It would be nice to have a little group going for some inspiration.

Post by **Dittoz7** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:39 am

Sh*ts Clean....

Post by **blacksrjdm** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:44 am

rustest86 wrote:does it have ABS? if it does then yes. if not then no. that was the only way to get an LSD stock in a usdm 240sx. the lsd was part of the traction control package that also came with ABS.

Not necessarily true.

Post by **horubeets** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:48 am

numbnuts240 wrote: http://garage.projectraine.com....html

Best way to check the options your car came with.

Post by **DrJuice164** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:50 pm

rustest86 wrote:does it have ABS? if it does then yes. if not then no. that was the only way to get an LSD stock in a usdm 240sx. the lsd was part of the traction control package that also came with ABS.

I can say for 100% that I have ABS and an open diff. Mine is just an SE so maybe the LE is different other than leather?????

Jack the car up, spin one wheel and look through to the other side. If the other wheel spins the opposite direction, open diff, same direction lsd.

I believe that the vlsds had an orange sticker on them as well.

Post by **KC240SR** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:34 pm

the only s13s that came with a stock VLSD were the HICAS model hatches. I'm not saying someone didn't possibly swap one into your car, but from the factory your wouldn't have had one.

Post by **rustest86** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:32 pm

according to the dealership " the only american 240sx's to come with LSD's were the ones with the traction control package, this package consists of ABS and the lsd. super hicas models had them because they automaticly came with the traction package. if your ABS 240sx dosent have one then either the dealerships parts program is lying, which is hardly ever wrong on big parts, OR someone swiped it before you got the car. you can tell if it has the ABS sensor in the snout of the diff. i can also tell you that every ABS equiped 240 that i have ever seen had an lsd. i even pulled one from a base model s14 that had ABS and guess what when back in?

all canadian and jdm s13/s14's had LSD's and didnt need to buy the extra traction package unless they wanted ABS.

its a rule of thumb i go by, if its got ABS and a nissan RWD platform, them its got and LSD. they both come togther in one package.

Website · Post by **crash n burn** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:39 pm

No

the fact that it's an LE means that it doesn't. LE models didn't even have the option for a vlsd or hicas. usually, yes..abs ends up having a vlsd(however not all); but not on LE s13's. i had the EXACT same hatch back, year, color, everything and i looked into the same thing when i got my first 240. mine had every option but those two.

besides, your third member is clean enough you'd see the orange label next to the fill plug. exceptionally clean body though; almost makes me miss my first 240

Post by **jeff420** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:13 pm

i bet a 20 spot thats not a vlsd just by lookin at the rear cover. ill snap a pic of my rear cover to show the difference. ive seen so many rearends (yes pun intended) i can tell the difference by the rear cover. unless someone changed it out and put a j30 or s14 vlsd and swapped out the rear cover thats NOT a vlsd

Post by **adrianfromthecastle** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:41 pm

S14toRPS13 wrote:1. Hold onto the throttle2. Dump the clutch3. Stop the car and get out4. Count your tire marks on the road

Not the best solution, but the fastest and funnest.

dude, when I had open diff, both my rear wheels would leave marks when I dump the clutch... so I wouldn't recommend this method.

One method that may work though (but note this is different for other vlsd make types): lift the rear up, make sure the transmission is in neutral, then spin one wheel. If the other wheel spins in the same direction, you have vlsd.

Post by **numbnuts240** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:08 am

rustest86 wrote:its a rule of thumb i go by, if its got ABS and a nissan RWD platform, them its got and LSD. they both come togther in one package.

that's been proven wrong with s-chassis all the time, stop saying that.

Post by **heartofaskyline** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:49 am

Nashville91s13 wrote:Yes sir....I go to MTSU and there are a hand full of 240s but I haven't met any yet. It would be nice to have a little group going for some inspiration.

haha i go to mtsu too. dude we have meets every sat. night up at EOR. well its not 240 specific. but quite a few of us have 240's. im always with chris in his huge a** black truck, everyone thinks he owns the joint, but he doesnt

Post by **Nashville91s13** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:14 am

heartofaskyline wrote:haha i go to mtsu too. dude we have meets every sat. night up at EOR. well its not 240 specific. but quite a few of us have 240's. im always with chris in his huge a** black truck, everyone thinks he owns the joint, but he doesnt

Oh..sweet. What and where is EOR? I'm pretty sure I've seen that truck. Chevy?

Post by **93240cooool** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:25 am

numbnuts240 wrote:
that's been proven wrong with s-chassis all the time, stop saying that.

Yeah, i have abs but i have an open diff.

Post by **rustest86** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:02 am

ok well according to the "decoding your vin" thing, YES i am wrong. i will admit it. that also means the nissan parts program is wrong in case people need parts for there lsd, you still need to look up an abs 240 to get the right parts. and i have just never seen one without it, and so far have been right when i do look.

also if im reading it correctly, according to the decoding your vin, i am right about the 97-98 s14's though. the only way to get an lsd is by also getting abs. as there is no smaller break down of the vin for an s14 like the s13 at the end of the page. now im just going by the info that was provided.
Modified by rustest86 at 1:48 PM 10/22/2009

Post by **jeff420** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:44 am

as promised, here is the picture of an s13 vlsd. notice how its kicked out for more capacity. all s13 diffs have fins for cooling, but the vlsd rear cover has more and are bigger.

nice rearend huh

Post by **fightinchunk** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:12 am

I'm starting to wonder if my newly acquired vert has the vlsd. it's a 92 se but last time i looked under the hood it didn't have abs. if there's no abs... does that mean there's no vlsd/ traction control?

Post by **jeff420** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:30 am

fightinchunk wrote:I'm starting to wonder if my newly acquired vert has the vlsd. it's a 92 se but last time i looked under the hood it didn't have abs. if there's no abs... does that mean there's no vlsd/ traction control?

go look at your rearend. if it looks like the pic i posted its vlsd. if it looks like the pic he posted its open. ive never seen a vert with vlsd, hell ive never seen any other s13 with vlsd except hicas models. you can speculate ALL day long but till you get out there and check, you'll never know.

and i believe verts are le, not se. every vert ive seen has been le.

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