Ohio_S13
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1992 240SX w/ SR20DET, 2009 Frontier
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Ohio_S13) | 7:28 PM 8/18/2009 |
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Any suggestions?
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NismoRacer34
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Ohio_S13) | 5:35 PM 8/24/2009 |
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I use HP plus' on mine. squeaky, but well worth the stopping power. Why only the fronts though? I'd think that would throw the bias off even more.
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Ohio_S13
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1992 240SX w/ SR20DET, 2009 Frontier
Cleveland Ohio
12-1-2006
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (NismoRacer34) | 4:41 AM 8/25/2009 |
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I was wondering if the bias would be thrown off also if I just used HP + in the front. I thought there would be someone who has tried this and can give some insite. The HPS do stop very well and I haven't heard any sqeaking or anything. If the HPS pads do this well I can imagine what the HP + pads will do. Has anyone tried the Carbotech pads on their cars?
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axino03
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10-24-2007
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Ohio_S13) | 9:24 PM 8/25/2009 |
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I have the Carbotech XP8 on my s14. I like them, they don’t squeal too much. Very little, and it does not bother me. I have never autocrossed with them. I only go to open track days (HPDE). They stop well in the cold, and it takes a lot to fade them. I can be out on the track for about 20 min before they fade. I have never tried the HP+ so I can not compare. But I do like the XP8 enough that I will probably try the Carbotech XP10 pad next. Only because I am getting a little bit of fade after 20 min. and I don’t give the car much time to cool down. (I share the car with my brother at the track and we both want to drive)
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ITA240SX
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Ohio_S13) | 7:23 AM 10/15/2009 |
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I know this is late, but I just saw the thread...sorry. I run Hawk blues on the front of my 240SX ITA road race car with either HP+ or HPS pads on the rear, and it will still lock up the rear tires before the front, so I don't think you should worry about throwing the bias off too much by only changing the fronts. I know the speeds aren't as great in an auto-x, but in reality you probably want a little more front bias anyway. The HP+ are great pads for auto-x IMO; I used to use them for track days on the 240 before it became a dedicated track car and they worked fine. I also just started autocrossing my '02 Camaro this year (yeah, I know, I did it kind of backwards starting with road racing and then trying auto-xing), and ran it with the combination you're thinking of - HP+ front, HPS rear - and it did great. Just my $.02
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Bubba1
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (ITA240SX) | 2:43 PM 10/15/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by ITA240SX » | | I know this is late, but I just saw the thread...sorry. I run Hawk blues on the front of my 240SX ITA road race car with either HP+ or HPS pads on the rear, and it will still lock up the rear tires before the front, so I don't think you should worry about throwing the bias off too much by only changing the fronts. I know the speeds aren't as great in an auto-x, but in reality you probably want a little more front bias anyway. The HP+ are great pads for auto-x IMO; I used to use them for track days on the 240 before it became a dedicated track car and they worked fine. I also just started autocrossing my '02 Camaro this year (yeah, I know, I did it kind of backwards starting with road racing and then trying auto-xing), and ran it with the combination you're thinking of - HP+ front, HPS rear - and it did great. Just my $.02 |
Ferrodo 2500's. Love them.
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Ohio_S13
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1992 240SX w/ SR20DET, 2009 Frontier
Cleveland Ohio
12-1-2006
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Bubba1) | 7:42 AM 10/16/2009 |
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Also what brake rotors do you guys use with Hawk, Carbotech, or Ferrodo pads? I currently have Rayestos brand rotors from NAPA.I was looking at getting the DBA 4000 series Z32 rotors in the front and S13 rotors in the rear. Anyones input greatly apprieciated
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Ohio_S13) | 3:03 PM 10/16/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Ohio_S13 » | | Also what brake rotors do you guys use with Hawk, Carbotech, or Ferrodo pads? I currently have Rayestos brand rotors from NAPA. I was looking at getting the DBA 4000 series Z32 rotors in the front and S13 rotors in the rear. Anyones input greatly apprieciated |
I have stoptech BBK's on all 4 wheels, shich came with their slotted rotors
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NismoRacer34
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s13 hatch (KA)
Milwaukee Wisconsin
2-12-2008
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Bubba1) | 4:49 AM 10/17/2009 |
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I have heard bad bad things about slotted rotors and i don't think that i could trust anything but the best quality when it comes to them. But that is just an opinion not a fact.
I use Brembo blanks and have not experienced any warping at all even with the hp + and about 15 auto-x's on them so far. You can not go wrong with $30 each at the tirerack.
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Bubba1
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (NismoRacer34) | 8:20 AM 10/17/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by NismoRacer34 » | I have heard bad bad things about slotted rotors and i don't think that i could trust anything but the best quality when it comes to them. But that is just an opinion not a fact.
I use Brembo blanks and have not experienced any warping at all even with the hp + and about 15 auto-x's on them so far. You can not go wrong with $30 each at the tirerack. |
I think it's the drilled ones that have the bad rumors. I've got a lotta track days on these slotted rotors (using 'em rather hard) and they've been awesome.
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ITA240SX
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Fredericksburg VA
4-25-2003
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Bubba1) | 11:37 AM 10/18/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Bubba1 » | I think it's the drilled ones that have the bad rumors. I've got a lotta track days on these slotted rotors (using 'em rather hard) and they've been awesome. |
Amen - I will not put another drilled rotor on the car for track use. I can't use them on the 240SX anyway (class rules), but I tried a set of Summit Racing's D/S rotors on the Camaro, and during a PDX day at Summit I actually cracked one of the front rotors in several places. The only reason I even had them was because I got the set of four new for next to nothing ($25 IIRC) from a guy I was buying other Camaro parts from. To be fair, they did have around 15k miles of street driving on them before I did the PDX, but IMO that doesn't excuse the cracking. I think slotted rotors would probably be ok, but even then I would only put a quality slotted rotor on. FWIW, I have to run oem-type rotors on the 240SX, and with the Hawk blues they do fine for the track. Of course, I do only run between 4-6 races on a set (300-500 miles).
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Ohio_S13
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1992 240SX w/ SR20DET, 2009 Frontier
Cleveland Ohio
12-1-2006
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (ITA240SX) | 8:18 PM 10/18/2009 |
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Has any had experience with the DBA 4000 series slotted rotors? I know a couple of EVO guys running them that love them.
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240sx AutoXer
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1990 Nissan 240SX SR23DET
FRESNO CA
1-1-2006
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Ohio_S13) | 12:05 PM 10/19/2009 |
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I currently run:
Front Rotors: 300ZX Brembo Slotted and Cross drilled (drilled for 4 lug)
Rear Rotors: 240SX Brembo Slotted and Cross drilled
Pads: Hawk HP+ on all 4 corners
Master cylinder: 300ZX
Lines: Stainless Steal
Fluid: Wilwood 300X
I had to install a brake proportioning valve on my car because I was always locking up my fronts.
I too am trying to decide if I am going to cook my pads and rotors at an upcoming track day at Laguna Seca. I have been told by my AutoX friends who run other cars(not 240SX) at open track days that I need to upgrade my pads or I will over cook them.
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Ohio_S13
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1992 240SX w/ SR20DET, 2009 Frontier
Cleveland Ohio
12-1-2006
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (240sx AutoXer) | 7:23 AM 10/21/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 240sx AutoXer » | I currently run:
Front Rotors: 300ZX Brembo Slotted and Cross drilled (drilled for 4 lug)
Rear Rotors: 240SX Brembo Slotted and Cross drilled
Pads: Hawk HP+ on all 4 corners
Master cylinder: 300ZX
Lines: Stainless Steal
Fluid: Wilwood 300X
I had to install a brake proportioning valve on my car because I was always locking up my fronts.
I too am trying to decide if I am going to cook my pads and rotors at an upcoming track day at Laguna Seca. I have been told by my AutoX friends who run other cars(not 240SX) at open track days that I need to upgrade my pads or I will over cook them. |
A 1989 Z31 brake master cylinder (the 15/16" one) would work perfect for a front Z32 brake/rear stock S13 brake setup. They can lock up but you get more pedal modulation so you will not lock up as easy.
The people I have seen with cross drilled rotors always complain about warping or cracking them after heavy use (most people do recommend cross drilled rotors for the track or auto-x). How are these rotors working for you? The HP+ pads can withstand track use but maybe not very heavy track use. Maybe worth upgrading the front Pads
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rioredstang
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1993 240sx SCCA ITS
Chickamauga GA
11-30-2008
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Ohio_S13) | 5:47 PM 11/6/2009 |
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If you are X-crossing you will not get enough heat in the rotors to hurt them. I run a ITS 240 with carbotech pads front and rear with stock rotors. I run the same manufactors pads so the balance will be right. You should buy a good rotor. No cheap "A" place rotors. I have some premium Wagner and some Nissan rotors and the don't warp. I have ran Road Atlanta, Daytona, Savanna, and Sebring. No fade, no shake.
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'04 G-Coupe 6MT, '91 B13 SE-R, another '91 B13 SE-R
Canton CT
2-4-2007
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| « Re: What Brake Pads do you run? (Bubba1) | 1:18 PM 11/20/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Bubba1 » | Ferrodo 2500's. Love them. |
+1 for the 2500's for autocross/street mixed. Ferodo 3000's for track (front on both, I use OEM or Hawk street pads rear with my B13's braking, that's plenty). Just be wary of going to a pad that takes time to warm up. The 3000's are in that category, not an issue at track speeds but not a good choice for autox.
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