NEED 240s in southern cali to test new parts

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We need a couple test 240s, s13 or s14 preferably with a ka de, to fit some grounding wire kits.

If you are experincing throttle surge or lags in power this could greatly help these problems. We will give you half off of the kit and any people you get to buy the kit after it is made will make you $10 dollars untill the kit is completely free to you.

If you are interested email this man zer...25295 or go to this thread and comment you would like to participate. zer...age=5 Thank you very much.

Edit: mods i know there is two threads we need test cars really bad so im trying to get more people to look at the thread thanks.
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does it only apply to so cal?

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driftneil wrote:does it only apply to so cal?
Unfortunately, yes. I'd love to drive to PA to test fit your S-chassis, but that's about 3k miles and over a grand in gas.

I know there are plenty of 240s in the so-cal area. If you're in Riverside County, even better!

If the kits turn out well, then they'll be up for sale in the Fab Marketplace (second link above, I believe).

Branden,

Thanks for posting!!!

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Why preferably KADE motors? I think there are more ppl out there with SR's by now. I'd be interested in a kit for the SR.

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Nacho_240 wrote:Why preferably KADE motors? I think there are more ppl out there with SR's by now. I'd be interested in a kit for the SR.
Mainly because KADE motors are stock and more ubiquitous than the SRs.

I'm happy to put something together for the SRs as well. If someone like yourself would like to organize the more popular S-chassis motor options and get testers/buyers, we can definitely work something out.

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So if I bring my SR'd car to help you mock up and test this product, I get it for half off? Does the motor have to be stock?

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Nacho_240 wrote:So if I bring my SR'd car to help you mock up and test this product, I get it for half off? Does the motor have to be stock?
It doesn't have to be stock, but if the mods you have significantly alter the lengths of wire needed compared to stock, then we have issues.

For instance, if you have a turbo setup that requires an extra foot of wire to stay away from the turbo heat, then we have an issue for all those who don't have turbos and don't need that extra foot of wire.

FI doesn't mean the wire lengths will be different for sure, but it's a very definite possibility.

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Im in socal but you mentioned it has to be Ka24de and im a slingle cam so idk if i could help out

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So let me get this straight. You want to test fit a grounding kit, but your primary market will only be cars with stock KA24DE's? I don't mean to question your fine business and marketing tactics, but don't you think there will be more people who have the aspirations to increase power in their cars by adding bolt-ons such as a turbo kit? If they eventually do this, they will no longer be able to use your grounding kit because it was only meant for a stock-ish motor and there will not be enough length of wire. Why would people want to buy a probably expensive grounding kit if they will not be able to use it later on when they add more parts in their engine bay? Do you see what I'm getting at?

I don't mean to sound rude, I'm just pondering the question in my mind.

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hey not to be that guy but a gounding kit is just that. It is some wires that run through out the engine bay/car and help by lowering the resistance to ground. So if you can bolt it up to the SR then it will work you cant tell me that the wire in the SR kit is special wire for the SR and the same with the KA.


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S13Teddy wrote:So let me get this straight. You want to test fit a grounding kit, but your primary market will only be cars with stock KA24DE's? I don't mean to question your fine business and marketing tactics, but don't you think there will be more people who have the aspirations to increase power in their cars by adding bolt-ons such as a turbo kit? If they eventually do this, they will no longer be able to use your grounding kit because it was only meant for a stock-ish motor and there will not be enough length of wire. Why would people want to buy a probably expensive grounding kit if they will not be able to use it later on when they add more parts in their engine bay? Do you see what I'm getting at?

I don't mean to sound rude, I'm just pondering the question in my mind.
I love this part...

Let's make it short and sweet. There will be a KA and SR version with and without Turbo (if that makes a difference - we'll have to see).

Da-da!

Also, let's not fool ourselves into thinking we're going to be making 20 rwhp by adding on a grounding kit. The kits benefits are usually not power, but efficiency and in some case a fix for poorly designed aftermarket electrical add-ons.
scheffler wrote:hey not to be that guy but a gounding kit is just that. It is some wires that run through out the engine bay/car and help by lowering the resistance to ground. So if you can bolt it up to the SR then it will work you cant tell me that the wire in the SR kit is special wire for the SR and the same with the KA.
I know a lot of you go on eBay and buy those generic "One-size-fits-all" grounding kits that are $5 with $30 shipping. I don't do those.

No aluminum wire.No sub-gauge claims.No faked dyno numbers.No generic kits.

All kits come with 4 gauge (actually larger, 2 gauge, but who's measuring...) 99.99% OFC. I can do 8 gauge too if you guys really insist on the smaller wire.

All kits are designed to fit neatly for their intended application. Active Tuning's generic kits make me mad. Super expensive, over-engineered wire, that doesn't fit all applications, just MIGHT...


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Hey man that was not the point. I looked at your kit (it is a nice kit by the way) I was not trying to say that your kit/wire is the same as the ebay crap, you do have nice low impedance wire in your kit. What I was getting at was toward the SR guys that are crying because you are doing one for the KA and not the SR. my point was that motors are so close to each other as far as how they sit in the engine bay and how you would route a grounding wire kit, that if it fits then it will work.

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Uhhh UHH pick me I want to participate

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scheffler wrote:Hey man that was not the point. I looked at your kit (it is a nice kit by the way) I was not trying to say that your kit/wire is the same as the ebay crap, you do have nice low impedance wire in your kit. What I was getting at was toward the SR guys that are crying because you are doing one for the KA and not the SR. my point was that motors are so close to each other as far as how they sit in the engine bay and how you would route a grounding wire kit, that if it fits then it will work.
Sorry bro. Everytime I start up a new kit project, I end up with nay-sayers, so I just misunderstood.

I need to look at both the KA and SR in a 240 and determine if the grounds are going to be close enough to lump the two into one design.

Kind of like all of the VQ35s in FM chassis. I could make them all the same, but the FX35 has a much larger engine bay so I make separate kits.
Pento240sx wrote:Uhhh UHH pick me I want to participate
Email me your contact info.

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You realize that I'm in Riverside right?

You're 4 hours away...

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well hey man I live in SD and i have a KA-T that is in need of a good grounding kit if you want. s13 chassis, let me know

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ok, I think I can help you with the SR version. I have an upgraded turbo and some other extra lines through the engine bay but they're not much in the way. Email me at the address in my profile so set up a date. Preferably next week. LMK.

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does this justify product development?



how about KA intake manifolds... or top mount dump pips...

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Nice picture. Now that you're proven that you're a PITA, what next?

I have to wait until I have my shop one day to design composite intake parts. Until then, grounding kits and possibly underbody trays will be the extent of it.

I'll email the rest of you to set something up.

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Kalypso wrote:does this justify product development?



how about KA intake manifolds... or top mount dump pips...
One other thing...those are crimp terminals, not solder terminals. Solder is weak and will easily break.

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i will be back in your area in a month...iv got one ka24e-t and one ka24e stock....if your interested

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i have a stock 91 coupe that you can use for testing
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Sentientbydesign wrote:You realize that I'm in Riverside right?

You're 4 hours away...
I'm probably willing to drive over there.

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I don't think there is a need for a non turbo SR kit. I could be wrong, but I think that the SR is a factory turbo engine. Just as well, I don't think anyone would ever go to the trouble to do an engine swap and not turbo it.

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i didnt imply that the motors had to be stock did i? i made the thread for the ka cause i have one and plan on turboing it if that is sufficiant for people. So lets get some ka help in here lol.


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