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 « Still Waiting (AZhitman)


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Wes and I ran into this YEARS ago when we were developing a S/C kit for the G50.

Speaking of which, how is that coming?

I rather like Sijoko's project, and with lower compression pistons it should out perform a C63 or come very close.

Those big lifted 4x4 go through u joints at a pretty good clip. There is a reason that every FWD OEM uses constant velocity joints at least on the wheel side of the half shafts.



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Aborted. Permanently.

I put big power in small cars now.

Custom made aluminum D/S with new joints = $300. It's a wear item. Replace with every second set of tires if necessary.



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 « Re: Those That Know (Raxephon)


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And if Maxnix wants a 5-speed, he'll have plenty of info from NICO to use.

Nah, if I am going to all this trouble, T66. Even the GM 6 speed auto would probably require some tunnel modification, not to even speak of the nightmare of programming a TCU for it.

With turbo power, a beefed up RE4 is looking like a better solution. That's basically MB approach with their SOHC 3 valve ground ripping V12 torque monsters.

Problem is, the G50 is plenty fast for everyday traffic and cross country cruising. The question is, how much does one want to pay in reliability, maintenance and fuel expenses to drop passing time by a second or two?

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Aborted. Permanently.

I put big power in small cars now.


Seems like a supercharged VH45DE in a Z32 would qualify. Rear tire life might be very short, though.

Reminds me I have to go see Craig's 450ZX conversion soon.

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Waaaaaaaiiit a minute. April 1st is around the corner. Wes is known for his April Fools shenanigans.

I'm on to you, my friend.



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Wes - have you looked at an SC300's interior, to see if you can copy/steal anything from it's parking break set up.

I think he's got some interior shots in one of his videos

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Waaaaaaaiiit a minute. April 1st is around the corner. Wes is known for his April Fools shenanigans.

I'm on to you, my friend.

He's getting REAL good then, given his video and "our" ability to identify a Q45's interior.



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He's getting REAL good then, given his video and "our" ability to identify a Q45's interior.

I'm still shocked by the awesomeness of this project.

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 « Re: Those That Know (maxnix)


For me, the MT has way better fun factor and better for track use, which is what I want the car for... Like an Infiniti M5.. The C AMG's are overweight pigs that cant turn with huge power.

Just out of curiosity Brian, why would you want a 6 speed? The only way that'd be nicer is if you could get one that was like 2nd overdrive... The extra gear I dont think would do much for you, the VH has so much torque in such a wide band that IMO I dont think you'd want 6 speed.... Once I post a video of going through 1st, 2nd and 3rd, youll see...

Theres essentially no dead spots, seems to me like theres always a perfect gear, in the less than 100 miles ive driven the car..

You guys truly have no idea how great the VH is in stock form until you drive it without the slushbox.. INCREDIBLE.

Also, i dropped a "second or 2" with less maintenance and better fuel economy.. no more having to do transmission flushes, just change 2 quarts of fluid every year!!



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Wes - have you looked at an SC300's interior, to see if you can copy/steal anything from it's parking break set up.

Thats sorta the idea that I had in my mind.. Where it would sit right next to the seat.

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 « Re: (Q451990)


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...Do you have a "Transmission Malfunction" message on your dash?...

There is one wire from the TCU that can be cut to eliminate the "Transmission Malfunction" message. If you want to do it I'll look it up later, can't recall the wire color/pin number from memory. Simple fix...




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Here is what you were looking for:

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As far as the ECU is concerned, there is no funny business. It starts up and idles like it should and runs like hell!!!

Gee I wonder Wes why it runs like hell? Does the new gear ratios that are mutiplying the torque have anything do do with it?

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Are you speaking of my 5-speed conversion or the rb swap midnight did?

The picuture in this thread.....what are those pedals?

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 « Re: (Johnny Rocket)


Clutch pedal is from a pathfinder (in a Z32 bracket) and brake pedal is Z32.
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Cutting the wire from terminal #3 on the TCU will disable the fault indicator. It's a light green/black wire. Snip it and be done with it. If you want further validation that it's ok to do, JWT disconnects this circuit inside the TCU when they mod them.

That's a decent block diagram Paul but the diagrams on page AT-38 and AT-39 are a little more complete and show wire colors.

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I got lazy . But I tried to tell Wes too that JWT cuts that otherwise the TCU would be giving errors all the time because they reprogramed them.
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I think with the U joints if you have an angle and the U joints move around a little more they will tend to avoid getting "notchy".

I have a little vibration I need to get rid of, i think shimming the carrier bearing should take care of it.

I would rec this.

Vibes are a huge problem on modified Mustangs and most of the time is a change in the pinion angles (lowered cars). It doesn't seem to matter how big the difference is but rather that the angle between the tranny tailshaft and diff is 90 degrees.

Another thing you might try (if you haven't already) is to add the stock auto tranny vibration dampner. The two biggest improvements I made to reduce driveline vibes on my 91 LX 5.0 were adding power seats (no mechanical connection between seat frame and body) and adding a tranny dampner from a Mazda Millenia to the rear of the tranny which consisted of a huge hunk of metal that was heavy as hell and a rubber cube.

Trust me on this though-you will want to get rid of that vibe b/c it might drive you crazy-kind of like a imbalanced tire.

Also, what changes would need to be made to adapt this to a 97+ car...

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Cutting the wire from terminal #3 on the TCU will disable the fault indicator. It's a light green/black wire. Snip it and be done with it. If you want further validation that it's ok to do, JWT disconnects this circuit inside the TCU when they mod them.

That's a decent block diagram Paul but the diagrams on page AT-38 and AT-39 are a little more complete and show wire colors.

Well if thats the case, wouldnt simply removing the TCU do the same thing?

Andy, basically everything for the 97+ car would need to be different. You'd need to make your own VH41 adapter plate (bolt pattern is different), im sure the pedal arrangement and shifter position might be similar, but its a shot in the dark.. You're also going to have a TON more issues (so much that it may not even make it worth it?) with the ECU being OBDII.. you cant fall back on the info for people with OBDII cars with MT's offered in them because all they do is wire things up and switch the ECU's to a MT version.. cant do that on a Y33 because never offered it and also you cant reprogram the ECU at all.

In my case, the hard part was the mechanics about it.. In the Y33 case, the electronics are almost going to be insurmountable.

Youll notice on picture (7?) that im using the stock AT crossmember with those brackets to adapt it.. So, im using the stock AT tranny mount (insulator) that you speak of...


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I can't wait 'til I have time to compile this into a big article....

Wes, I'm sitting here reminiscing about the first time I met you... dorky 16-year-old with more guts and balls than money.

I knew you'd do something awesome like this, but never had any clue you'd be pioneering something THIS big for the community.

*sniff* I'm so damn proud... *sniff*

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dude, just wait till carlisle and the tire destruction ensues.
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Ah, tire destruction.
Please, PLEASE shoot vids of said tire destruction.

So when are you gonna produce finished plates for the rest of us? Learning that you used the AT crossmember and a lengthened Q45 driveshaft could be used has shortened my parts-checklist! All I need is a starter and clutch kit! Oh, and of course, an adapter plate!!!




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dude, just wait till carlisle and the tire destruction ensues.

May I?


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Well if thats the case, wouldnt simply removing the TCU do the same thing?


Probably, I'm just not sure if removal of the TCU will have other ramifications. There may be a few other systems that are receiving some signals from it like the ECU.

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Actually i just need to find a machinist to do another run, im definitely interested in doing another run..
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dude, just wait till carlisle and the tire destruction ensues.

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Update... I just unplugged the TCU and now the transmission malfunction light is off, and also the cruise works now..

Now I just need to get the automatic drive positioner to work and also the memory seats. For a rainy day...

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from my own experience with a 5spd vh45 the stock rear end SUCKS for low speed work...the car was incredibly hard to slide because the final drive (3.52 out of the q45) caused it to fall in and out of the power band.
to me a 4.08 final would do wonders for the car and may be the next mod if i keep my s13 coupe (which has the vh in it).



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from my own experience with a 5spd vh45 the stock rear end SUCKS for low speed work...the car was incredibly hard to slide because the final drive (3.52 out of the q45) caused it to fall in and out of the power band.
to me a 4.08 final would do wonders for the car and may be the next mod if i keep my s13 coupe (which has the vh in it).
i don't think he put the tranny in there to dorito. Just because he is a nissan doesn't mean she he is a drifter
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El Wesson oil is a drifter........from town to town !

If he really wants his car to rip he will get that 4.08 gear in that car......he is such a pansy when it comes to that rear gear!

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does anyone know where to obtain a 4.08 rear? let me know if anyone has been done to adapt the z32's to a q.
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I have the shifter issue worked out (its gonna be SLICK when its done) and the trim piece should be done this weekend...
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Ok I need your guys' opinion..

Ive mocked up 2 shifter surrounds using a manilla folder. Please note my cutting skills suck and all the edges would be rounded... I also didnt install the boot because i need a new one anyway.

The major problem is that the shifter is very biased toward the passenger side for whatever reason...

Option 1- Make the hole symmetrical about it (and only use the right side of the hole) and put 3 of the door window switches at the top of the console...

Option 2... Use the right hand of the bezel for the shifter and the other side put the factory 94 Q window switches in place next to each other..

Im kinda leaning toward the second option the more I think about it..

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I definitely prefer the 2nd option. I hate how the window switches are scattered so far apart on the stock shifter surround. Putting them all together like that is perfect.



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I like the first one, but I would still prefer them to be like they originally came. But the second option is defiantly easier to do.

I would like to see center console window control with the window lock relocated to the top or bottom of the shifter surround.

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Wes, my vote goes for Option 2! I remember you saying you extended the z shifter brackets about 4". Is it possible to extend it to the necessary length and move the assembly closer to the driver's side?
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I actually didnt end up extending the shifter I ended up using a different shift knob... With a short shifter you have to use a slightly different one..

On the stock shift knob the shift rod actually goes inside the knob, which makes it sit way low. Using a different shift knob allows the shift knob to sit right on top of it.

You could probably bend the shifter over if you wanted to, but I really dont see a reason to. I really dont have an issue where it is.. Maybe someday i'll do it, but not right now.

I really dont think either surround is going to be difficult to make, i dont see either one being harder to make than the other, which is why I asked for an opinion... I think the second option would look more factory, and also I could easily install gauges up at the top of the shifter later (another reason to go that route).. Coolant temp gauge and oil pressure would be cool.

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Wes, box up that flexplate for shipping!!! I will call you tomorrow to work out the details!!!!
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I meant the first one would be hard to incorporate the original switches into.

And I don't see the reason for a second yet more accurate coolant temp gauge, it wouldn't look right in my opinion.

Do you still use the tranny cooler for your M/T?

I would like some day: Oil pressure and temperature, transmission gauges.

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