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i heard few good things about e-mance, but i want to know if anyone had used emance and blow their motor? What is the longest that someone had last w/emance? Thanks in advance.


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Hey I cant tell you how long people have had a emance tune with good results, but I can tell you that I have had mine for about a month and I love it. I had a enthalpy tune and it had issuses. So i hit up Jason from emance and he put his tune in my car and it has been money. He is a good guy and he knows his ****. I would recomend that you get his consult cable too it is a great tool. Well i hope that you got some good info from that.I know that there are other people here that use it. Try seaching this topic has been covered.

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Lots of topics about this guy. Especially in here. I have his tune on my KA-T. No problems at all. I've used the Blazt consult cable, and checked everything. It looks to be spot on. My car gets good gas mileage, and runs out pretty darn good for a T2.

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Another thing to remember about Rom tunes in general and the problems some may have are the paricular setups used. Some use turbo's that are far to small, which in turn heats the compressed air charge and doesn't maintain good exhaust flow. Those two things alone are enough to cause detonation. Another thing is cooling and fuel pressure...

What I'm saying is, whether it's Emance, JWT or Enthalpy most issues are usually not JUST the ecu tune. Since no tuner can take into account the hot air charge because of poor design, nor the cooling temp do to inefficient radiator cooling etc etc.

If the car is setup well for a boosted application you shouldn't have any problems. It's when people cheap out on the proper gauges and don't improve the cooling and fuel system that they run into problems.

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eazye2000 wrote:Lots of topics about this guy. Especially in here. I have his tune on my KA-T. No problems at all. I've used the Blazt consult cable, and checked everything. It looks to be spot on. My car gets good gas mileage, and runs out pretty darn good for a T2.
hey i just purchased jason's tune for my t2 setup yesterday now i'm just waiting for it in the mail. Jason is amazing with communication and answered all my lingering questions big plus for him. But i have a question about the consult cable.

What is it for? How do i use it?Can i make changes to the tune if i have it?

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The consult cable is pluged in to the obd1/2 port. It is basicly what Nissan would use to figure out what is wrong with your car at the factory/dealership.

It will tell you basicly what every sensor is telling the ecu.

When Jason hooked his up to my car it told him what all the sensors were puting out, any ecu codes that are being thrown out, he pulled up my fule and timming map.

It tells every thing you need to know to fix/tune your car.

Good tool to have.

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I just ordered my tune from him today. I've heard nothing but good things about this guy. He is very willing to answer any questions you have; extremely fast too. So pretty soon I'll find out if the product lives up to its reputation.

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Yes i've heard many good things about this tune, but my point of this thread is to see if it is comparable to other ecu tune such as enthalpy, i want to know if anyone has lasted like 2+ years w/ this ecu assuming the car is properly set-up w/ all cooling systems necessary. i've read many post about this tune but it is just about how good it is and i just want to know how everyone is doing at the moment because most of the threads are saying that e-mance is good "so far". to sum it all up i want to know if it can last.

i'm just curious because i've put more than over $9k on my whole motor and turbo set-up. my plan to have my set-up last as long as a new car and one last thing i am doing my set-up as a DD w/ some great power when i need it. i have experienced blowing up motors before and i want this to be my last set-up.

Thanks for all the replies

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Emance hasn't been out for 2 years. So you have to go by what current users say. One thing I can say about ANY ecu tune is that they don't change over time. They are either good or bad. They don't wear in or out...they simply are.

My advice no matter what ecu tune you go with is to check your air fuel levels with a wideband. This is the only way to insure your tune is good. Baring in mind that most tunes will pull more timing then needed and be a tad rich across the map. But this is to insure safety. JWT has always been known to run very conservative maps. But this is to prevent people from blaming him for blowing motors.

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I don't run a emanace tune, but he does a very simillar thing I did on my own 240, except I did it for a SOHC.

Let me tell you, ROM tuning in my opinion is the best solution out there.

First off you get to keep your stock ECU, so no messing around with wiring. If you ever get into it you get to swap chips with what ever tune you want when ever you want.

And at the same time the car behaves like stock when out of boost.

Only thing you really have to watch out for with rom tunes is the person making maps. Cause like Brian said, some make them pretty conservative for the reason that not every car is the same.

One solution I used when I rom tuned my car was get a SAFC. Cause lets face it is kinda of a pain in the *** to get fuel perfect by making a map reburning the chip going for a drive and do over. Thats also the reason why they usually make these tunes conservative. There is also a rom emulation solution out there that lets you do this one the run, but that gets a little bit more crazy and requires soldering in daughter boards and such.

Back on topic, With the safc you can basically fine tune any part of your fuel map and not have to worry about it. But like mentioned before owning a wideband on a boosted car IMOH is a must. I hate driving cars that are boosted from factory with out one, so go figure.

As for timing, if its someone that knows what the hell their doing the know the area for the beast mean TQ on the specific engine, the timing is pretty much flawless.

If you are more interested in learning about more what emanace does, visit HybridKA They have gone as far as being to make rom tunes and use the stock ECU to run a map sensor.

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Thanks wd and fx for all the great advice . i'll get emance and get one of those consult cable and view my tune to be exact with what i want and already have a wideband so i'll be set. thanks again for all the help guys.

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yup, just got mine and ill be installing it in a month or so once i get my walbro and oil pan in.

i also hear very nice things about the tune. jason has great customer service too.

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I got mine installed last week.. I love it so far. I get perfect AFR's .. 15.5 cruising and idle.. and 11.5-12.5 in boost.. I got over 180 miles on a half tank so far, I'm just breaking my engine in... I'm tuned for up to 20psi on pump gas, and more on e85 or 100+ octane. I'm very happy with this tune, especially for the price

I too recommend at least a wideband.. but having a safc as well is even better.

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I got my ecu tuned by jason at emance and i had a problem with the car not being able to rev past 5 grand and i told jason about it and he helped me troubleshoot a bit asking about transmission sensors being hooked up and ensuring i didn't just simply have spark blow out etc.

Then when it came to it i just installed a stock ecu quickly to see if it'd let me rev freely and it did so i told jason about that and he sent me out a retune the very next day and now i sit here waiting for it. Although i did have a problem i so far have been very happy with jasons customer service and i hope the retune will fix my problems. I will definitely post up with a follow up and hopefully make a thread with a review on his tuning etc once i take it onto a dyno.

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One thing about the ROM tunes, sometimes they don't always burn to the chip 100% all the time. Sometimes they are finicky. Or at least that's been my experience. Could be some of the problems with his burns. I don't know for sure. Just throwing that possibility out there.

I thrashed my car around a little bit last night. My ECU was tuned for 14psi on a Disco turbo. I now have a 3076R. I was running 20psi, and my AFR's were spot on, and I didn't have any audible detonation. So that made me feel pretty good.Plus he tunes out the entire map. So you can go a bit further sometimes. Or that's how I understood it at least.

Hope this helps.

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I'm pretty sure he simply bases the fuel mapping around the injector size. So if you have 72lbers you can run 4 psi or 30...just depends on how much the actual injector will flow. As far as timing, he probably retards based on load reading from the MAF and TPS. Again, the more load the more retard.

I wish Jason would pop in here and go over these things...

How much boost you can run is probably more limited by octane then fuel flow. Since you can only retard so much timing before you're working backwards. Again...WTF Jason...get your *** in here.

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hey guys, i had a feeling someone was talking about me

WD you are absolutely right, i have base maps of the most popular setups that have been dyno tuned locally, then i fine tune it to meet the customers needs.

now make no mistake, my first priority is for a safe tune but i dont cut corners on performance. like i tell all my customers, if you arent happy with your tune talk to me and i'll retune until you are happy.

(zerepdivad) had a problem with his car not reving over 5k.. somehow the 4'th gear sensor was getting triggered but the retune should fix that problem.

anyhow if you guys have any more questions please post them here or email/call me

Thanks

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Damn, I didn't know you were drape123 Jay...do you want me to change your username to Emance or something not as gay sounding Just screwing with ya...lol. But I can change it if you want.

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Ok well i got my retune in and now it revs freely like it should! but now i've got somwhat of a rough idle... but at least it doesn't die out or anything like that. I'm boosting only 5psi right now and i'm pretty happy with it so far, i've got my boost controller on the way as well as other goods, *electric fan, downpipe gasket, exhaust wrap etc.* So hopefully in the next week i'll be pushing it at 10 psi or so and hopefully set up an appointment for fine tuning on the dyno! Thanks jason i greatly appreciate it!

I recommend emance to anyone so far! great customer service is what it's all about!

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I have always said I would pay extra for good customer service. Fortunatly for us, Emance is literally hundreds less then the competition.


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I'm a broke @SSS, but i paid extra when he did my tune. The customer service is the best. And definately the tune.

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WDRacing wrote:I have always said I would pay extra for good customer service. Fortunatly for us, Emance is literally hundreds less then the competition.
Yeah definitely got lucky on that one. I'm really happy so far with just 5 psi on what the ka can do. Emance is definitely gonna blow up soon i'm sure hopefully his prices won't though!!

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Does emance work with OBDII?

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one_white_s14 wrote:Does emance work with OBDII?
I'm not sure if he can tune an OBD2 ECU or not.

But...! You are in luck! I will be doing most of his conversion harness's so you can plug in an S13 OBD1 ECU, into your S14 and go from there! Or at least I hope he will refer me more people.. lol

Give him a shout. Or me. My e-mail is in my profile.

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Hey Jay,

Ive been emailing you and calling you for over a month, but you haven't replied to me yet. (@ these numbers 1-310-651-6910 and 1-619-467-5446)

I accidentally sent you TWO (170$ x 2 = 340$) payments to chip ONE s13 ecu.Id like to have one of those payments refunded back to me.

call me at 1-352-328-1648 or email me. my paypal is [email protected] and I have emailed you the transaction IDs when you asked me for them a while back. I still have the E-mails.

Get Back to me

Thanks.

and sorry about the thread jack


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