Nissan Forums | Infiniti Forums NICOclub staff, History and Advertising eMail NICOclub Webmaster Advertising on NICOclub Nissan forums
 
          
Active Topics

Quick Reply  Print  Email  Subscribe RSS  Help
 5 speed swap in progress!First  < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 >  Last
Author Post
okinawa drift



Offline

1484 posts
89 240sx SOHCoupe
Eugene OR
4-8-2007

 « Re: (a_ahmed)


no, usually a brand new clutch pedal will go for about $90ish




a_ahmed

Offline

827 posts
1991 240sx fastback
Oakville Ontario
5-4-2006

 « Re: (okinawa drift)


so what comes with it.. i need the brake/clutch pedal assembly...
okinawa drift



Offline

1484 posts
89 240sx SOHCoupe
Eugene OR
4-8-2007

 « Re: (a_ahmed)


search man, your jackin my thread..lol


anyways... would i be ok if i DIDN'T resurface my flywheel? since i have a regular exedy clutch kit

2ndnissan

Offline

691 posts
1990 240sx hatch
sebring fl
11-5-2007

 « Re: (okinawa drift)


Personally,I'd get it resurfaced. You've got it apart anyway and the new clutch plate will have a longer life and grip better with a flat plate. They develop hot spots even though they look flat. It's the same as a brake rotor...
okinawa drift



Offline

1484 posts
89 240sx SOHCoupe
Eugene OR
4-8-2007

 « Re: (2ndnissan)


ahh ok, will do, im still debating on if i should get a new thermostat and new water pump for my ka24e while its out of the car... hmmmm

im most likely going to get a rear main oil seal for sure.. but thats probably the only seal im going to replace, since im on a tight budget

motoman399



Offline

1064 posts
95' not so beater 240 and 98' wrecked (rhd coming soon) 240
eureka ca
10-10-2006

 « Re: (okinawa drift)


Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift »
search man, your jackin my thread..lol


anyways... would i be ok if i DIDN'T resurface my flywheel? since i have a regular exedy clutch kit

if you are broke like most of us.. well at least me you can take some sand paper maybe 220 grit and just sand it a lil bit... it wont be perfect and i dont recommend this every time. also check for discoloration and dips and cracks. if you have any of those then get it resurfaced.




a_ahmed

Offline

827 posts
1991 240sx fastback
Oakville Ontario
5-4-2006

 « Re: (okinawa drift)


Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift »
search man, your jackin my thread..lol


anyways... would i be ok if i DIDN'T resurface my flywheel? since i have a regular exedy clutch kit

Well im just asking its a simple question no need to be like you're hijacking my thread. Your thread is yours, woopie do man. Do you know, just answer... I didn't even know they were selling new ones.

2ndnissan

Offline

691 posts
1990 240sx hatch
sebring fl
11-5-2007

 « Re: (okinawa drift)


Water pump and thermostat are easy changes with it in the car. So those could probably wait a bit if nothing shows any sign of leaking yet and it wasn't overheating before. Rear main seal should be a definite "must do" while it's out. And check any rear freeze plugs.....
94_240sx
'Vert Encyclopedia

Offline

7128 posts
94_240SX
DFW TX
2-28-2005

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (puchuco)


Quote, originally posted by puchuco »
The one on ebay is for an SR20 and I have a KA24, would it still fit? (I doubt it)

Oops! Sorry. I didn't see it carefully. Anyway, buy s14 one from a dealership. It'll work on s13 & s14.

94_240sx
'Vert Encyclopedia

Offline

7128 posts
94_240SX
DFW TX
2-28-2005

 « Re: (a_ahmed)


Quote, originally posted by a_ahmed »
http://www.courtesyparts.com/b....html

Does this come with the whole brake and clutch pedal assemblies all together for 40 bux and everything needed? If yes I'll buy it, can someone chime in...

No, it's just a pedal. Whole assembly is over $100. Try to get OEM hardline because you can't beat OEM hardline fitment. Make sure to get a bracket that goes between softline and hardline. You can buy Agency power stainless steel line, but I don't think the feel is as good as OEM hardline.

94_240sx
'Vert Encyclopedia

Offline

7128 posts
94_240SX
DFW TX
2-28-2005

 « Re: (okinawa drift)


Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift »

im most likely going to get a rear main oil seal for sure.. but thats probably the only seal im going to replace, since im on a tight budget

Do the transmission front and rear seals. They are like $4-5 each and easy to do. Rear one is okay, but if front one goes bad, you have to pull the tranny again.

a_ahmed

Offline

827 posts
1991 240sx fastback
Oakville Ontario
5-4-2006

 « Re: (94_240sx)


Quote, originally posted by 94_240sx »

No, it's just a pedal. Whole assembly is over $100. Try to get OEM hardline because you can't beat OEM hardline fitment. Make sure to get a bracket that goes between softline and hardline. You can buy Agency power stainless steel line, but I don't think the feel is as good as OEM hardline.

Where can I get the OEM hard line (I dont need the damper thing)... I have aa clutch earls ss line from frsport already just need hardline

And for the clutch pedal assembly i need the whole thing OEM is expensive i reckon huh...

94_240sx
'Vert Encyclopedia

Offline

7128 posts
94_240SX
DFW TX
2-28-2005

 « Re: (a_ahmed)


Quote, originally posted by a_ahmed »

Where can I get the OEM hard line (I dont need the damper thing)... I have aa clutch earls ss line from frsport already just need hardline
And for the clutch pedal assembly i need the whole thing OEM is expensive i reckon huh...

Hardline is pretty cheap from dealership like under $20. Problem is it's been discontinued. s14 one is still available, but they are not the same. You need to make a trip to some junkyards. That's where I got all of mine.


Danrc30



Offline

598 posts
93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift)


Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift »

I just opened this thread and saw this pic. I haven't read further so if someone already addressed this, I apologize.

THIS IS NOT A SAFE WAY TO WORK UNDER A CAR! A local kid from my high school died when he used 4 jackstands to lift his car. This is extremely dangerous. I did a 5 speed swap too, and I used 4 wheel ramps to raise the car instead of jackstands. It's MUCH safer to use wheel ramps.



My baby...
http://deloreanmidatlantic.com...r.JPG

93 240SX vert. too, WIP

"68% of Republicans don't believe in evolution, on the other hand, only 5% of monkey's believe in Republicans." ---Stephen Colbert

srpowered240sx
Shocker Style



Offline

12547 posts
90 240sx-sr, 92 F-150, 96 integra gsr
humboldt county ca
6-29-2005

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (Danrc30)


Quote, originally posted by Danrc30 »

I just opened this thread and saw this pic. I haven't read further so if someone already addressed this, I apologize.

THIS IS NOT A SAFE WAY TO WORK UNDER A CAR! A local kid from my high school died when he used 4 jackstands to lift his car. This is extremely dangerous. I did a 5 speed swap too, and I used 4 wheel ramps to raise the car instead of jackstands. It's MUCH safer to use wheel ramps.

care to explain why....ive always worked on my car like this. i also always try to shake the car off the stands before getting under it. jackstands are made to hold a car up...or did i miss something.




When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and suddenly realized I was talking to myself.
NICO photo contest crew..........three, count em, three times
Proud Creator of WBDM2TTWFOC: Cuz selling is for pussies!!
94_240sx
'Vert Encyclopedia

Offline

7128 posts
94_240SX
DFW TX
2-28-2005

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (srpowered240sx)


Quote, originally posted by srpowered240sx »

care to explain why....ive always worked on my car like this. i also always try to shake the car off the stands before getting under it. jackstands are made to hold a car up...or did i miss something.

It's still a good idea to slide something under the car just in case like wheels and stuff. You might get hurt something goes wrong, but at least you won't die.

Danrc30



Offline

598 posts
93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (srpowered240sx)


Quote, originally posted by srpowered240sx »

care to explain why....ive always worked on my car like this. i also always try to shake the car off the stands before getting under it. jackstands are made to hold a car up...or did i miss something.

I'll do my best.

Jack stands are not designed to hold an entire car up even thought they technically can. Some people say that it's like using a lift in a garage. Well, it's not. The lifting points on a lift are connected and not pivoting anywhere. They lift straight up and are not required to "balance" the car. Using 4 jack stands is similar to building a house of cards. If one goes, they all go. All it takes is one to slip or give out and the car will come crashing down. At least with wheel ramps, the car won't crash down if the wheels are properly "chocked". I've also never seen a wheel ramp tip over while the car was completely and safely positioned on the ramps.

Now I'm not saying that if you use 4 stands it's automatically going to happen, but I am saying it's not safe and I don't want to hear about a fellow 240 owner, as well as any car owner for that matter, getting crushed under their car. The kid that died was doing this so I know it can happen. I wasn't there when it happened, but I was in school when the word came in. It wasn't a good day at school let's say.

So please guys/gals... invest in 4 wheel ramps and be safe! I'm actually tired of working on my back. I'm investing in an electric lift. That's the best way to go if you can. $1500 is well woth your life!

RCA



Offline

4566 posts
1995 Nissan 240sx
NJ
1-22-2007

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (Danrc30)


+1 for the lift
-10 for the price.

My car has been on four jackstands without tires since Febuary. Its still up there. I probably did structual damage to my cars frame... oh well


RESURFACEING YOUR FLYWHEEL ISNT OPTIONAL... ITS MANDITORY!
You spent all this time and money allready... Do it right and do it once. Clutches arent cheap and it would suck to have one not really work as well as it should. Then burn out quickly and then you have to replace it and resurface your flywheel any way.



1995 S14 / FSMs / XboxGT & PSNID: cabrita309

Danrc30



Offline

598 posts
93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (rcabrita)


Quote, originally posted by rcabrita »
+1 for the lift
-10 for the price.

My car has been on four jackstands without tires since Febuary. Its still up there. I probably did structual damage to my cars frame... oh well

No doubt there are more people that have never had a problem than people that did have a problem... I'm just saying it's dangerous. Do what you will with it.

As far as the price goes, my life is worth more than $1500, so I'm getting a lift. It's kinda like the guys that buy a new motorcycle and buy a cheap helmet with no leathers because they can't afford it... I say buy a cheaper cycle and use that $$$ to buy a good helmet and leathers.

a_ahmed

Offline

827 posts
1991 240sx fastback
Oakville Ontario
5-4-2006

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (Danrc30)


What lift are you guys talking about for 1500$??
srpowered240sx
Shocker Style



Offline

12547 posts
90 240sx-sr, 92 F-150, 96 integra gsr
humboldt county ca
6-29-2005

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (Danrc30)


Quote, originally posted by Danrc30 »

I'll do my best.

Jack stands are not designed to hold an entire car up even thought they technically can. Some people say that it's like using a lift in a garage. Well, it's not. The lifting points on a lift are connected and not pivoting anywhere. They lift straight up and are not required to "balance" the car. Using 4 jack stands is similar to building a house of cards. If one goes, they all go. All it takes is one to slip or give out and the car will come crashing down. At least with wheel ramps, the car won't crash down if the wheels are properly "chocked". I've also never seen a wheel ramp tip over while the car was completely and safely positioned on the ramps.

Now I'm not saying that if you use 4 stands it's automatically going to happen, but I am saying it's not safe and I don't want to hear about a fellow 240 owner, as well as any car owner for that matter, getting crushed under their car. The kid that died was doing this so I know it can happen. I wasn't there when it happened, but I was in school when the word came in. It wasn't a good day at school let's say.

So please guys/gals... invest in 4 wheel ramps and be safe! I'm actually tired of working on my back. I'm investing in an electric lift. That's the best way to go if you can. $1500 is well woth your life!

i kind of see your point, but have been doing this for years, and never seen a set of jack stands set up properly fail. jack stands do not "pivot" or "balance" the car. they keep the car in the air, and are positioned on the most solid part of the car, and can not slip off if positioned correctly. i see where your coming from hearing about a classmate getting crushed, but my bet is it was not set up right.

Danrc30



Offline

598 posts
93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (a_ahmed)


Quote, originally posted by a_ahmed »
What lift are you guys talking about for 1500$??
Just google "automotive lifts bud... first one that comes up without any research. I've seen them even cheaper... http://www.americanautomotivee...SeLoA

Quote, originally posted by srpowered240sx »

i kind of see your point, but have been doing this for years, and never seen a set of jack stands set up properly fail. jack stands do not "pivot" or "balance" the car. they keep the car in the air, and are positioned on the most solid part of the car, and can not slip off if positioned correctly. i see where your coming from hearing about a classmate getting crushed, but my bet is it was not set up right.

Understood. But why chance it when you can use wheel ramps to do this swap, which are much safer? They actually do balance the car somewhat. As soon as a load is applied to the four jack stands, there will be some sort of horizonal force on the stands. Even though it may be minimal, it will exist. This causes the balancing act and possible instability when dealing with 4 jacks.

ken240sx



Offline

1110 posts
'92 240sx, '03 TL-S + N2O, '05 Hyundai Accent Lawlz, '02 Chevy Prizm
Liverpool, NY/Sierra Vista, AZ
3-31-2005

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (srpowered240sx)


wheel ramps in the rear with the e-brake on and jack stand in front for me.



Quote, originally posted by addisonblck »
the naked man is always right...lol


a_ahmed

Offline

827 posts
1991 240sx fastback
Oakville Ontario
5-4-2006

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (ken240sx)


WOW! That **** is cheap and worth it! I thought that kind of stuff cost like 5-25k... thats amazing!
94_240sx
'Vert Encyclopedia

Offline

7128 posts
94_240SX
DFW TX
2-28-2005

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (ken240sx)


Quote, originally posted by ken240sx »
wheel ramps in the rear with the e-brake on and jack stand in front for me.

I slide wheels, scissor jacks and floor jack on top of jack stands just in case. Danrc30 has a good point. When you take the tranny out and install it, you will have to wiggle it. If a couple of guys do that together, who knows? Resurface the flywheel. Clutch is expensive, but you don't want to do it twice. Just do it once and do it right.

BMAR240SX



Offline

3229 posts
1993 240sx Coupe
QUEENS NY
8-21-2006

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (Danrc30)


[QUOTE=Danrc30] http://www.americanautomotivee...SeLoA

/QUOTE] I dream to have one of these



FS: Xenon lip pre-cut for front mount, with Canadian DTRL's and JDM Side Marker
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...marke

don_bagz

Offline

24 posts
1998 240sx
colton CA
4-14-2008

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (BMAR240SX)


so lucky you found all the parts for your 5 speed swap. Wish to find mine too.. hopefully
BMAR240SX



Offline

3229 posts
1993 240sx Coupe
QUEENS NY
8-21-2006

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (BMAR240SX)


My question is tho, don't floor jack stands go higher then the ramp's?
Danrc30



Offline

598 posts
93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (BMAR240SX)


Quote, originally posted by BMAR240SX »
My question is tho, don't floor jack stands go higher then the ramp's?

Some do. That's why I put a few 2x6's under my ramps for the extra height...

GIJOE69



Offline

307 posts
Going Side Ways!
San Francisco, CA
7-23-2003

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (Danrc30)


dang man you still doing your 5spd swap?
okinawa drift



Offline

1484 posts
89 240sx SOHCoupe
Eugene OR
4-8-2007

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (GIJOE69)


haha yeah man, i've been low on money, and im waiting on parts to arrive and im still scavanging tools.. haha i need a cherry picker..

i bought a $25 torque wrench at walmart .. do you guys think this will get the job done?


and about the 4 jacks.. this scares the **** out of me.. haha i think i will look for some ramps.. thanks for that info


also i'm thinking about re-painting the transmission.. what kind of primer should i use on it?


also does anyone know the size of the m/t bell housing bolts? i can't find the size in the FSM

Modified by okinawa drift at 12:11 AM 5/13/2008

GIJOE69



Offline

307 posts
Going Side Ways!
San Francisco, CA
7-23-2003

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift)


why do you need a cherry picker? all I used for tools on my S14 was four 3 ton jack stands and a 14mm 6pt craftsman wrench for the driveshaft bolts and a cheap harbor freight pilot bushing puller and bunch of 3/8's 10, 12, 14, 17, and a big ratchet breaker bar to hold the crankshaft pulley bolt so it don't move when installing flywheel and removing. and a jackstand on the oilpan with a wooden block to hold it................and don't use a torque wrench on the pressure plate bolts or you will break a bolt........it took me awhile to get parts from courtesyparts.com i went that route to save money but takes 4 ever to get...I ordered bunch of tranny bolts and seals such as Rear Engine Seal, Tranny front seal & gasket and rear seal and dust cover....
GIJOE69



Offline

307 posts
Going Side Ways!
San Francisco, CA
7-23-2003

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (GIJOE69)


just order the MT tranny bolts & starter bolts from nissan....
okinawa drift



Offline

1484 posts
89 240sx SOHCoupe
Eugene OR
4-8-2007

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (GIJOE69)


aren't you supposed to use a torque wrench for the pressure plate? or do you just hand tighten it?

and i need a cherry picker to get the old blown out engine + auto tranny out of the car

94_240sx
'Vert Encyclopedia

Offline

7128 posts
94_240SX
DFW TX
2-28-2005

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift)


Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift »

also i'm thinking about re-painting the transmission.. what kind of primer should i use on it?


also does anyone know the size of the m/t bell housing bolts? i can't find the size in the FSM


Modified by okinawa drift at 12:11 AM 5/13/2008


Just clean up and use high temp aluminum spray paint just like sillbeer did.

The longest one is not available from Nissan. All the info you need is in FSM.

You need to use torque wrench everywhere.

okinawa drift



Offline

1484 posts
89 240sx SOHCoupe
Eugene OR
4-8-2007

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (94_240sx)


sweet! alright thanks man

hmm should i remove all the sensors before scrubbing the transmission with some degreaser? or you think they will be fine? also if i was to replace the transmission front seal would i have to buy a new gasket that goes there?

GIJOE69



Offline

307 posts
Going Side Ways!
San Francisco, CA
7-23-2003

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift)


yes, if you open the tranny front seal cover you gotta replace the gasket then the seal and also should change out the pin ball (pivot ball)
GIJOE69



Offline

307 posts
Going Side Ways!
San Francisco, CA
7-23-2003

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (GIJOE69)


and also for the seals make sure you put RTV between the seal, i forgot to put RTV like what nissan recommends, I totally forgot and I smell tranny oil at higher speeds and I noticed that it is leaking a little so when I go flush my tranny I will add RTV....
okinawa drift



Offline

1484 posts
89 240sx SOHCoupe
Eugene OR
4-8-2007

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (GIJOE69)


ahh i actually might not replace my front tranny seal then, i'll replace the rear tranny seal for sure, i haven't heard of much cases of tranny fluid leaking from the front... or am i wrong? im just on a low budget

and when you say put RTV between the seal.. you mean like... put some rtv where the seal goes and put the seal in?


also i cleaned the **** out of my tranny today, took about 3 hours..lol

when i put the tranny on should i tape this up with electrical tape?

does anyone know where the plastic peice on the ground goes??

what goes throught this loop?

i sprayed some water in here to get some of the dirty out.. bad idea??

results


i don't think im gonna paint it, will be to much of a pain in the ***

Modified by okinawa drift at 10:14 PM 5/13/2008

94_240sx
'Vert Encyclopedia

Offline

7128 posts
94_240SX
DFW TX
2-28-2005

 « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift)


Haha... That's funny cuz I also spent exactly 3 hours to clean it up. I used a tooth brush and degreaser to clean it. No, you don't have to paint it. If you do, it'll smell bad for a while.

You don't have to use RTV. Just put some grease on and hammer the seals in gently. I did all my seals that way and no leaks whatsoever.

What sensor is that? I only hooked up reverse sensor, so don't bother with it if it's not a reverse sensor.

I don't see a breather hose. Loops will hold wires and breather hose. Maybe s13 tranny doesn't have one?

Yup, it's not a good idea to spray water there. You should have disassembled it and used a rag to remove dirt. Make sure to drain all the water and old fluid before installation.

Before:

After:


 First  < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 >  Last

» Return to 240SX Forum / 180SX Forum / Silvia Forum
Forum Jump
Quick Reply

Powered by ZeroForum 2.4.0. ©2008 RelyNet, Inc.



< Contact Us - NICO >

Visit G37Driver.com for Infiniti G37 Information
NICOclub's Nissan forums and Infiniti forums and all affiliated sites are the property of HDS Holdings, Inc. They are independent publications and are not affiliated with or endorsed by Nissan Motor Company or Nissan North America.

Information © Copyright © 2000-2009 by NICOclub
All rights reserved. Material may not be copied or reprinted without written permission.
Visit 370zclub.org for Nissan 370z Information

Google
Web NICOclub.com

Nissan Sport Magazine Forums
Nissan Infiniti Events and Shows Nissan Infiniti Road Tests and Reviews
Nissan Infiniti Related Articles Nissan Infiniti Technical Information Articles
Nissan Financing Advice Nissan Infiniti News Archive
240sx performance modification articles and information Nissan performance and modification
Infiniti performance and modification Nissan Infiniti Car Owners Homepage
Nissan Infiniti Parts Marketplace


Nissan Infiniti Links


Do NOT copy content, plagiarism will be detected by Copyscape.

The web's most active Nissan forum !

Home Photography Camera Information and Help

Racing maps and locations