Kaizo Industries Nissan Skyline R34

[Unstroked]

Has anyone on here ever talked to Kaizo Industries? The sell Skyline R34 Chassis that are DOT approved. All you have to come up with is the Engine, drive-train, and wheels. If you have not heard of them here is a link to there website.

And here is a picture of three of there R34's.

[themadscientist]

once you assemble it it's still a Skyline. Little name games is all it is. Lindsey Lohan by any other name is still an annoying trainwreck.

[Unstroked]

once you assemble it it's still a Skyline. Little name games is all it is. Lindsey Lohan by any other name is still an annoying trainwreck.

From what I have read on there site all you have to put into the car is the engine, drive-train, and some wheels. The tricky part is trying to get one of the 500 California smog excempt stickers.... Hmmm... They also sell S15's. That would be as easy as dropping in a ka motor, getting it smogged and registers, then swapping in a S15 motor.

[themadscientist]

You miss the point. They can try to play cute little games with terminolgy but the fact remains it is not really a kit car, it is a Nissan Skyline. When it is fully assembled it is a Skyline. If someone stuck a V8 in it or something it would lean more towards a "kit car", a very small amount. This is not much different than the guys doing it in the dark shipping the shell and the engine in different containers. For the time being the government has been very lax in enforcing these things. That may not change, they may continue to just pursue the operations and or individuals who do these little backdoor BS too overtly. If however they decide they have had enough it's time to play. All these guys that say all you need is state are taking a dangerous gamble. The federal government is under no obligation to cut people slack. The laws being flirted with have been in place, no new legislation is necessary to clamp down on the grey market Skylines. Thusly the owners have no legal ground to plead for any kind of cut off date of grandfathering of cars already on the asphalt in the states. The owners took a shot and their asses are fully in the wind if the government comes calling.

[dillards1234]

well I have checked with the DMV and everything else and they said its legal but the engine isnt but in Florida it doesnt really matter since no emissions or vehicle checks so also the cops dont really care down here theres a ton of people that have skylines.
Modified by dillards1234 at 8:53 PM 2/9/2008

[thefro526]

Those GT-R's are sexy... I like how they phrase everything but emissions would still be a legality issue.

[dillards1234]

yes they are i might buy one since i have a freshly rebuilt rb26dett sitting in my garage cause i was gonna put it in my s13 but i went with rb25det instead.i just need to call them when i get the chance i just bought another s13 coupe for 650 or 675 dollars or something i've been messing with it all day.

[Unstroked]

I talked with the guys over at Kaizo Industries and a R34 Chassis goes for $60k-$65k... After they said that I asked about a S15 chassis. LOL... The guy there told me that owner of those 3 skylines is selling a S15 Spec-R for around $35k... Now I just trying to figure out how I can buy his car. I hate responsibility of a wedding and buying a house. Hahahaha....

We will see.

[dillards1234]

well thats alot of money! umm i think i would rather just move to japan and buy an s15 or s13 and if i really felt like being a highballer a skyline r34 but i think i would rather get used to japan before a skyline.

[Unstroked]

The thing that makes these cars nice is that the chassis is DOT approved as a kit car. Then all you have to do it install a motor, drive-train, and some wheels. I know that you in any state other then Communistafornia you can just register the car after that. If you live in Communistafornia, you have to get into the DMV Jan. 2 and hope that you are one of the first 500 people in the whole state applying for a kit car smog emissions sticker. Sounds like work, but think about it, you would have a Safe and legal Skyline or S15... It just is a kit car. LOL... I am really thinking of how I am going to get all of this to fly with the fiance.

[USsil80]

wow... wonder if they are going to do a R32 chassis... and wonder if they come with the DOT paper work

[Gold Digger]

I am sorry guys, but it's still not a "kit-car".

A kit car has to have at least 65% (IIRC) of the parts on the car, not be of the same manufacturer.

Go through and make sure you read all of the stickies at the top.

[90_rb20]

I was very close to buying a Kaizo car about a month ago. It was advertised as a "2007 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec. I thoroughly researched the way they do the importing process and it is 100% legal. No government issues what so ever. They do it the same way that the Noble is done.

They are a good company, but once you calculate the prices on everything, price for labor if you're not an wrench turner, you're looking at a 65-75K price tag upon completion. Cars are very nice, saw one first hand, they have Kaizo VIN plates, and come with a Kit Car registration number.

If you have the money I say its not that big of a deal, and it beats waiting on Customs and MotoRex to get you your car.

[themadscientist]

I was very close to buying a Kaizo car about a month ago. It was advertised as a "2007 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec. I thoroughly researched the way they do the importing process and it is 100% legal. No government issues what so ever. They do it the same way that the Noble is done.

They are a good company, but once you calculate the prices on everything, price for labor if you're not an wrench turner, you're looking at a 65-75K price tag upon completion. Cars are very nice, saw one first hand, they have Kaizo VIN plates, and come with a Kit Car registration number.

If you have the money I say its not that big of a deal, and it beats waiting on Customs and MotoRex to get you your car.

Let's see here. You appear out of nowhere to sing the praises of a company being scrutinized in your very first post. You do not have a car from them just good feelings. And, you speak about a company that is long since shut down by the feds as if it is still in existence which speaks to exactly how cognizant you are of reality. More red flags then a Russian may day parade.

[90_rb20]

**laughs**

[themadscientist]

when you are done laughing to avoid making a substanative comment explain why I am getting the funny vibe from you and you are not trying to do exactly what I am asserting. Search "Supaca" and see how we deal with such things.

[nchopp]

If it's been manufactured, it can't be a kit car. It's really that simple.

As to whether or not cops care - they certainly might. Some cops won't know the difference, but many are also car enthusiasists, and won't have a problem busting you up for driving a car that's not street legal.

[90_rb20]

In all honesty madscientist, Im new to the imported car scene. I was in California for a business conference when I came across the car. The guy ran me through all of this paper work and legality mumbo jumbo while I was considering buying it. I simply made a comment base on what I have heard about them from someone that did have one. His R34 is completely street legal in California, tagged and titled. If he did use some type of screwy tactics to get it registered, then I was oblivious. So I think that before you instantly flame on a response I made, regardless of the validity it makes a better point if you just tell someone whats really going on, rather than just spitting out put downs.

If they are bunk, they are bunk. I dealt with a guy first hand that had one and was completely registered so I saw there to be no problem in the process. If it really irked your *** that much, I apologize but it wasn't just "thinking" it was legal that made me say it, it was seeing first hand a R34 titled and tagged legally in California.

Needless to say, Im glad that I did not jump on it now.

[Okinawa_BNR34]

Let's see here. You appear out of nowhere to sing the praises of a company being scrutinized in your very first post. You do not have a car from them just good feelings. And, you speak about a company that is long since shut down by the feds as if it is still in existence which speaks to exactly how cognizant you are of reality. More red flags then a Russian may day parade.

madscientist,

You really need to visit Kaizo Industries in person and talk to Daryl. It think it would be an eye opener for you. A certain very knowlegable person in the industry that used to work for MotoRex & RB Motors paid a visit to his facility trying to poke holes in his system and couldn't find anything illegal. He actually congratulated him on "cracking that nut".

hope everything is well with you.

Tim

[90_rb20]

madscientist,

You really need to visit Kaizo Industries in person and talk to Daryl. It think it would be an eye opener for you. A certain very knowlegable person in the industry that used to work for MotoRex & RB Motors paid a visit to his facility trying to poke holes in his system and couldn't find anything illegal. He actually congratulated him on "cracking that nut".

hope everything is well with you.

Tim

Diligently spoken.

[Unstroked]

madscientist,

You really need to visit Kaizo Industries in person and talk to Daryl. It think it would be an eye opener for you. A certain very knowlegable person in the industry that used to work for MotoRex & RB Motors paid a visit to his facility trying to poke holes in his system and couldn't find anything illegal. He actually congratulated him on "cracking that nut".

hope everything is well with you.

Tim

LOL... I am currently talking to Daryl about buying his S15 Spec-R. I wish I had the money for the R34 he has, but a nice weekend driving S15 will do me just fine. And I agree with you, Daryl is a stand up guy and is very well known in SoCal for his Skylines. I have been talking to a few tuners around SoCal and they all know of Daryl and sing his praises. I know he sold the Blue R34 GT-R to Universal Pictures for The Fast and Furious 4 movie. I will keep the forums posted on my possible S15 purchase.

[dillards1234]

how much is an s15 chassis??

[nfp240]

awsome.

[90_rb20]

At risk of making myself look like an ******* I made some calls pertaining to Kaizo.

1) Daryl has a very good setup and a very expedited process for Skylines. 2) This being said, his tactics are still not impressing or seeping by some higher ups involved in the importing process.3) The kit car process that he is calling his method, is currently being used on other cars such as Cobras, and Nobles, but in a totally different way.

What Ive gathered confirms what one person has already elaborated on, and thats the fact that the cars that are currently being sold as kit cars did NOT roll off of an assembly line from the actual car manufacturer. They are reproduced to a high standard. Kaizos cars however, did start their life after rolling off of an assembly line.

Also, theres no definite answer as to wether these cars will be crushed upon decisions made by the deciding party, and there is no one willing to comment on his process until more information is released.

This being said, Im not going to knock the system he has going on, but also, i will not being attaining an imported car from him until it is OFFICIALLY recognized by the aforementioned parties. Still undecided on how close they are to even being valued as a kit, and not a "puzzle car" where you just have to add the missing pieces.

[Unstroked]

how much is an s15 chassis??

I don't know. I am trying to buy one from a guy that has already put a motor and drive-train in one. He is asking $35k, but Im sure him and I can work something out.

[dillards1234]

ok cool well let me know how that goes

[themadscientist]

At risk of making myself look like an ******* I made some calls pertaining to Kaizo.

1) Daryl has a very good setup and a very expedited process for Skylines. 2) This being said, his tactics are still not impressing or seeping by some higher ups involved in the importing process.3) The kit car process that he is calling his method, is currently being used on other cars such as Cobras, and Nobles, but in a totally different way.

What Ive gathered confirms what one person has already elaborated on, and thats the fact that the cars that are currently being sold as kit cars did NOT roll off of an assembly line from the actual car manufacturer. They are reproduced to a high standard. Kaizos cars however, did start their life after rolling off of an assembly line.

Also, theres no definite answer as to wether these cars will be crushed upon decisions made by the deciding party, and there is no one willing to comment on his process until more information is released.

This being said, Im not going to knock the system he has going on, but also, i will not being attaining an imported car from him until it is OFFICIALLY recognized by the aforementioned parties. Still undecided on how close they are to even being valued as a kit, and not a "puzzle car" where you just have to add the missing pieces.

Wow, good stuff. Thank you for doing a bit of digging on this, we all benefit.

I know I come off like a hardass but I have just seen so many people get burned I won't trust any company until they are so obviously endorsed by "the man" that there is no shred of doubt to thier legitamacy. I am not saying don't go for these loopholes and workarounds, I do all sorts of stuff like that over here with my cars. I just want people going into it with eyes wide open about what it is.

[dillards1234]

yeah I see what you mean. but yeah they are a good company to buy from if you have money.

[Unstroked]

I guess where i will have a one up is that I am currently working on getting my dealers license and with that comes dealer plates...

[thefro526]

I guess where i will have a one up is that I am currently working on getting my dealers license and with that comes dealer plates...

My dad's friend has dealer tags in NJ and he was explaing to me that he coudl basically go out and get any car and put the tags on and it would then become legal under his insurance and all that fun stuff. I don't remember how it works exactly but the tags are awesome. I used them to drive my 240 about an hour or so with non-functioning brake lights and no inspection sticker and no one stopped me. Any way he was telling me that his insurance is super expensive though or something like that.