New Tires on my G35

[telcoman]

With 47k miles on my G35 and a 270 degree spinout in two directions in an ice storm on the New Jersey Turnpike last month & experiencing hydroplaning last week in heavy rain doing about 65 MPH, I started looking into new tires. I read posts, looked at Tire Rack etc. The dealer parts dept wanted $250 each for my OEM Bridgestone Turanza 235.45.18. So I then checked my local Bridgestone Tire dealer & they quoted me $270.00 per tire plus installation & balancing. I then checked with Goodyear & for a set of Goodyear RSA'a they gave me a price of $199 per tire. With balancing & installation road hazard came to around $1100.I said okay & left a deposit. They were supposed to come in this past Wednesday. Meantime I read a few negative reviews on the Goodyears & called a Yokahama dealer that is not close to me. He didn't have anything in stock. When my Goodyear tires did not arrive as promised this past Wednesday & they didn't seem too sure when they would come in, I cancelled the purchase.I had my new Bridgestone Turanza OEM tires installed at the Infiniti dealer today. Since i had complained previously about a flaky tire pressure sensor, they replaced that at no charge. Total for 4 new tires..$1280.This included $20 for an oil & filter change ...actually a 3500 mile service. I've previouly written about declining an oil consumption test on my G35 but this oil change is related to my engine oil consumption which I will detail in my next post. Stay tuned.

Telcoman

[Kenrik]

You're getting ripped of at those prices...

I pay $94 per tire for 275/40/18

Tirerack.com my friend!

Look here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...ace=0

$122 Each.. for a superb tire..

[telcoman]

You're getting ripped of at those prices...

I pay $94 per tire for 275/40/18

Tirerack.com my friend!

Look here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...ace=0

$122 Each.. for a superb tire..

Kenrick

I appreciate you input, however....

How many miles do you get out of them?How much for installation, balancing, etc. Do you have tire pressure monitor sensors? If an independent dealer f%@ks them up they are over $100 a piece

Tire Rack wanted $233 per tire plus shipping, plus installation, balancing etc. Not that much cheaper than the dealer. There is a reason the manufacturer choose the OEM Bridgestone. I was told by three tire dealers that the 47k miles on my original tires was excellent. The loaner G35X that I drove earlier today had Goodyear RSA 215-40-17. With 29k miles on that vehicle, the tires had about as much tread left as the tires I got rid of with 47k. I drive about 24-25k miles a year & am leary of cheap tires. If you get a blowout doing 75-80 MPG it could be all over. I'm not willing to take that chance.

Thanks again for the information.

Telcoman

[SVTCOBRA]

47k is pretty good out of your oem's!!!Our oem's were the RSA's and I replaced them at 19K miles. I liked the RSA's except for how quickly they wore out.(I replace tires when they get to 4/32 instead of 2).I went with the 4 Yoko Avids @ $700 out the door.

[lucidd]

I've read alot about tires, tire performance etc when i had to replace my tires on my audi s4, and my 07g35s -to all season tires.

Although the Eagle RSA tires are a good performing all season tire, it is not GREAT.

I went for the newest Eagle F1 - all seasons... to replace my summer Bridgestone tires Re050A [which are great summer tires, but they are for summer].

The Eagle RSA tires are OEM on many models out there for all brands - BMW, GM, Dodge, Infiniti, Nissan etc. --- and all OEM tires are priced to be ... super overpriced. - Contracts are made by tire manufacturers to car manufacturers - like this: I scratch ur back u scratch mine - Goodyear would sell lots of tires to GM for a cheap price - so GM can make more $ on the sale of the car... then hold these OEM goodyears in stock - at the service ctr - and call them OEM recommended tires - and mark them up 3-4 times... to make more money --- but wait - that means that the market price has to be higher - so Goodyear is contracted to increase prices of these tires to all vendors - like tirerack, tire stores etc...

Anyways,,, my point is that all OEM tires are overpriced - underperforming products.

Tirerack will have surveys, tests etc that show how all OEM tires compare to other aftermarket tires.

Aftermarket: all tiress that do not come with any new vehicle [regardless of brand:GM Ford Nissan whatever] out of the showroom. ... this means that my Ultra HIgh performance All Season tires: Eagle F1 All season tires are "Aftermarket" --- ... and these tires are rated higher than most if not all OEM tires [in same category] --- at 1/2 price!!!

And re: installations: just get them ordered, receive them and then bring them to where you trust : in your case, where you bought and installed your tires.

L

ps. my goodyear Eagle F1 a/s tires are absolutely remarkable...

[AaronJP]

Yeah... I looked at the cost of tires too...

Im about ready to get rid of this car...Its a nice ride, looks beautiful, has decent power & I use that word sparingle...

Looks are on point, but I think you can get a better lux or near lux car w/more features, looks good & has more power...

Its a good car, but me being a new owner...

[telcoman]

47k is pretty good out of your oem's!!!Our oem's were the RSA's and I replaced them at 19K miles. I liked the RSA's except for how quickly they wore out.(I replace tires when they get to 4/32 instead of 2).I went with the 4 Yoko Avids @ $700 out the door.

SVTCOBRA

I read a number of negative reviews on the Goodyear RSA's which turned me off. I spoke to a Yokahama dealer but he did not have my size & was 50 miles away. (100 mi RT)Since I got excellent mileage on my original tires I decided to go with them again. Yes, the price was high but I should be good for the next two years. We have snow, ice, heavy rain here in NJ & I drive to Florida occasionally where heavy downpours & thunderstorms are common. I wasn't willing to take a chance on cheap tires that wear out quickly. The service guy at Infiniti told me that one of the reasons I got such good mileage out of them was that I told him I check my tire pressure weekly, and I rotated them myself every 7500 miles. I think I'll rotate these new tires every 5k miles. He told most people do the tire rotation every 15k miles & then wonder why they only get 25k miles out of them? They also forget to check tire pressure which is very important. to long life of tires.Although I've only driven about 50 miles with the new tires I can definately feel the difference and it handles much better.

Telcoman

[rn79870]

Did I reaqd that correctly? 47,000 out of original tires is outstanding. I've got GoodYears on mine but have nothing to compare it to. In the past (a different car) I had the Yoko Avids and I truly loved those tires. 47k though, that's excellent.

[SVTCOBRA]

telcoman,How much tread was left on those OEM's at 47K miles??curious.

[telcoman]

telcoman,How much tread was left on those OEM's at 47K miles??curious.

SVTCOBRA

One tire had 5/32 and three others had 6/32.Three tire dealers and the Infiniti dealer all told me that was excellent service out of those OEM tires. That was the main reason I decided to spend the money for the same tires.Because of the spinouts and hydroplaning I did not want to chance an accident. If it had been summer I might have stretched another couple of thousand miles. I'm sure I could have gotten 50k out of them but not in the winter in New Jersey. G35 6 speeds are not exactly outstanding in snow but with good tires and careful driving I don't have a problem.Having good to excellent tires and brakes can do much to preventing an accident.

Telcoman

[W661335PF]

47K miles is average or slightly below for those of us who don't drive like NASCAR racers. I got 40K out of my OEM Bridgestones in very mountainous terrain.... if you live in the flatlands of Nebraska, Florida, East Texas or Iowa, 47K should be normal. I bought Kumho's for <$90 apiece and had the set installed for <$500. Now at 20K miles, they have >60% of their tread life left.
Modified by W661335PF at 6:31 PM 1/20/2008

[SVTCOBRA]

WOW....I find that to be very impressive!!and to have 5 & 6 32nds left!

BTW, the RSA's were on my wife's G and she doesn't drive hard.I also check the tire pressure regularly, rotate the the tires and torque the wheels to spec.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

I buy Generals Exclaims! They are the best tire... And they are cheap. I love them and that is all i Buy 275 4018 o the Rear and 245 45 18 on the front and they are 117 and 107 each on tire rack.. .I get some one to put them on for 12.99 each with the tire sensor!

535 bux out the door!..

I got about 40k out of them... And i do burn outs and drive hard!

DJ

[wkim711]

hello telcoman

i have the same car as you do with the same tires and one thing that i dont think you know is that the bridgestones are summer tires

the first winter with my car i change the tires to goodyear rsa and have not had to many problems with these tires

with that much tread left in the tires i dont think that it is the tread of the tires that caused the spinoutsummer tires get very hard in cold temps and that causes a lose in traction

the Bridgestones Tur er33 are a grand touring summer only tire and should not be driven in the snow with a rear drive manual car

[zozoka1212]

You are right the er33 is a summer tire.

hm..

zozo

[telcoman]

hello telcoman

i have the same car as you do with the same tires and one thing that i dont think you know is that the bridgestones are summer tires

the first winter with my car i change the tires to goodyear rsa and have not had to many problems with these tires

with that much tread left in the tires i dont think that it is the tread of the tires that caused the spinoutsummer tires get very hard in cold temps and that causes a lose in traction

the Bridgestones Tur er33 are a grand touring summer only tire and should not be driven in the snow with a rear drive manual car

wkim711

I just don't feel like changing or purchasing a second set of tires. If the weather is really bad, I can work from home. Although it was 14 degrees this morning, the new tires did feel hard but the G35 handles much better with the new tires. I can feel the difference. The really cold weather is only going to last perhaps till the end of February with warmer days in the high 30's & 40's in between. I do thank you for mentioning the summer tires and pointing this out.

Telcoman

[grantman240z]

What is this winter tire business? Summer tires year-round!!

[zozoka1212]

He is getting to old he doesn't like to snow drift on the freeway anymore. Oh sorry he might like it but his old lady.

zozo

[lucidd]

fyi...the summer tires are great for summer ---but for winter, colder temps, it is bad.

I dont mean to sound like a tire sales person, but my 07g35s came with Potenza 050a summer tires, and even though they are BRAND NEW, the cold hardens the rubber, and im slipping in the rain. --- NOt even that cold, it slips...

L

High performance all seasons are best compromise - I think

[telcoman]

fyi...the summer tires are great for summer ---but for winter, colder temps, it is bad.

I dont mean to sound like a tire sales person, but my 07g35s came with Potenza 050a summer tires, and even though they are BRAND NEW, the cold hardens the rubber, and im slipping in the rain. --- NOt even that cold, it slips...

L

High performance all seasons are best compromise - I think

lucidd

Welcome to NICO

If you are slipping in the rain it is possible you may have a tire problem or you are driving too fast for conditions. Check your pressure and thread depth. My thread depth was 5/32 on one tire and 6/32 on three others. Two tire dealers told me with only 3 & 4/32 of an inch of usable thread left the tires were no longer safe to drive in winter weather.

I don't claim to be a tire expert but what I do know is that thread design is important for allowing water on the road to escape from under the tire as it rolls. If the tire cannot dispel the water hydroplaning can occur. Yes hard rubber is detrimental to winter driving but if you drive slower and leave more distance between vehicles you can compensate for the reduced winter performance of the tires. Although i haven't been in northern New England in winter in many years, I still recall driving at 70 to 75 MPH on snow covered roads with other skiers in my younger days. As long as the traffic is light & other drivers respect the hard covered snow & don't do anything stupid you can drive on snow and ice with not much of a problem. Snow drifts no, but hard pack roads yes. I don't think there was summer or winter tires except for snow tires which I never used. I used to carry chains though for my VW Beedle.

All I can tell you and others that my G35 handles much better with the new tires. I haven't driven them yet in bad weather but that is coming later this week. I'll keep you posted.

Telcoman

[grantman240z]

fyi...the summer tires are great for summer ---but for winter, colder temps, it is bad.

I dont mean to sound like a tire sales person, but my 07g35s came with Potenza 050a summer tires, and even though they are BRAND NEW, the cold hardens the rubber, and im slipping in the rain. --- NOt even that cold, it slips...

L

High performance all seasons are best compromise - I think

There was a great deal of sarcasm in my post...I live in Southern California and tend to poke fun at the snow-ridden East Coast dwellers. I know full well not to take my summer tires up to my parent's where snow and ice runs rampant.

[telcoman]

There was a great deal of sarcasm in my post...I live in Southern California and tend to poke fun at the snow-ridden East Coast dwellers. I know full well not to take my summer tires up to my parent's where snow and ice runs rampant.

No problem grantman240z

I'm an old farht driving & loving my G 35 and I hear some flak occasionally from some of the younger members. This is a fun site with not only sarcasm,comedy, strong opinions, and an occasional photo of someones hot girlfriend. I've seen enough photos of G35's. It's the photos of the hot girlfriends that I'm waiting for.

Telcoman

[lucidd]

I too am getting old... surprised i took a chance on this rwd car - but fun.Point taken about driving carefully... but i always tell my younger frends that it is the braking - sometimes hard braking necessary - times that tire type deems extremely important.

I try not to be too strong on my opinions.... and I'm not a tire expert either, but thru decades of driving, I've found that the tread pattern is only part of the equation for traction... the tire compound makes a part of the equation too. ie: pirelli Pzero Neros ... the summer tire and the all season tire [ok for light snow] - their tread paterns are exactly the same! ... and only the tire compound is different. -- so point is, although tread design looks as tho it will be ok in rain and light snow, it may not be.

Anyways, as long as it keeps you safe, that is the main point... I'm just a lil worried that some of the younger guys may mistake summer tires are "OK" in the winter - -yes, if it gets cold enough... Hope noone from Austrailia or Hong Kong is listening...

Anyways, I bought all season tire replacements after 6 months of usage on my G - cuz over here, although our winters are not bad, .. I was sliding in the rain,, and ps: my tire pressures, tread depth, tread etc checks out fine - for they are only 6months old -again... and emm... I wasn't going overly fast -or unsafe for the conditions... --- I just noticed some slippage - premature

Thanks for welcoming me to NICO

[zozoka1212]

He is 2x older then you.

zozo

[lucidd]

omg... i thought that the ant was real

[Sentientbydesign]

What are these whi whi whi wintter tires you speak of?

I completely respect the need for new tires in cold weather areas. I'm just glad that we don't have much bad weather here in SoCal or I'd probably have killed myself by now.

I have bald rears and feathered front RE050s on my G right now. I'm going to go with some Pirelli Assimetricos in the rear and I'll have to figure something else out for the front. I found a pair of 155/40/19s used with very good tread left on them for $50/piece.

[adren77]

The OEM tires (Turanza) suck so bad. They do have good thread life, but they are terrible in snow, rain AND DRY! They are not that comfortable either but they are quiet.

[W661335PF]

Kenrick

I appreciate you input, however....

How many miles do you get out of them?How much for installation, balancing, etc. Do you have tire pressure monitor sensors? If an independent dealer f%@ks them up they are over $100 a piece

Tire Rack wanted $233 per tire plus shipping, plus installation, balancing etc. Not that much cheaper than the dealer. There is a reason the manufacturer choose the OEM Bridgestone. I was told by three tire dealers that the 47k miles on my original tires was excellent. The loaner G35X that I drove earlier today had Goodyear RSA 215-40-17. With 29k miles on that vehicle, the tires had about as much tread left as the tires I got rid of with 47k. I drive about 24-25k miles a year & am leary of cheap tires. If you get a blowout doing 75-80 MPG it could be all over. I'm not willing to take that chance.

Thanks again for the information.

Telcoman

I've been getting between 45-55K miles on my tires, I run Khumo Solus tires, which get good reviews at TireRack. In my ancient Volvo, I was getting +60K on kelly's, Goodyears, Firestones and anything i could find. The key is driving style and I'm hardly a speedy driver in any sense of the word.

However, and this is important, tires are the most critical component on a car. At any given time, the footprint of your combined 4 tires on the road is less than one square foot. What this means, essentially is that one tire's print on the road, while your driving, is the size of your palm. >60mph and the palm size decreases exponentially, which is why cars lose control much more quickly at higher speeds. A good tire is life-savingly critical, so cheaper is not better, and more expensive is not better either. Grip is, tho.

Nonetheless, the Khumo's with their decent reviews, price out at <$130 balanced, installed, etc., apiece for a total of $600.

[SVTCOBRA]

Getting two more Yoko Avids for my daughter's 00Max SE (17inch)$92 a piece plus installation & tax....at my local NISSAN dealer!! Yes, she will bake them some more cookies!

[telcoman]

Getting two more Yoko Avids for my daughter's 00Max SE (17inch)$92 a piece plus installation & tax....at my local NISSAN dealer!! Yes, she will bake them some more cookies! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/image ... yesnod.gif" BORDER="0">

I now have 40k miles on mine

Telcoman