blaZt. Is it good? + random babaling of an idiot (Yay)

[MaxFNPower]

Ok, this thread has gotten long and is full of B.S. So I'm going to make a table of contents of relevance to try and help with reading the thread.

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I was wondering if anyone of you have used there software before? I am a graduate of computer science, a car enthusiast and now a mechanical engineering student, working with SolidWorks modeling.

Any way to get back on subject from what I have seen of there website http://ad.nicoclub.com/phpads/...jerry it looks like my wet dream. Basically I am needing to check my sensor readouts to see WTF is happening in my engine. Also as I am prone to quite insane projects I was thinking of installing a computer(not an ECU but more like a laptop or slim line haven't decided which yet) into the car and replacing the gages and dash console with an LCD or two. I could display all kinds of stuff, ECU readouts tack, speedometer, pretty pictures whatever. And, (it will end soon I promise) if it works then I can sell it with as kit with limited instructions and a huge DISCLAIMER!!!

Any way what I need to know is...

1. If you have used it.

2. What were your experiences(Good, Bad?)

3. Should I buy any of there programs, or just get a cable from them and use an OpenSource program?

P.S. Sorry for the technical jargon if anyone needs me to clarify just ask.

P.P.S. Me NooB me think me know stuff; YaY.

P.P.P.S. I really did research this on the forum so if there is a post on this subject please tell me.
Modified by MaxFNPower at 4:15 AM 5/25/2008

[cmoody2006]

I've never heard of it before and thank you b/c now i want it! I'm a computer guru as i like to call it.... I'm going for a degree in C&IT at purdue. So yea I want it now!

[cmoody2006]

I'm thinking i could possibly make this cable if i got the wiring diagram.......

[MaxFNPower]

I've never heard of it before and thank you b/c now i want it! I'm a computer guru as i like to call it.... I'm going for a degree in C&IT at purdue. So yea I want it now!

You like that you'll love this http://www.xenarc.com/product/index-pc.html I like this one because it fits into your radio slot which is much better than the passenger floor where I was going to put my desktop. I found there site right after I posted this thread. I was looking for small LCD screens replace my speedo and tak, the only thing I feel bad about is the fact that I have the stock digital speedo and the HUD, to me its one of my favorite things about Dorthy. I am considering making a HUD as part of the Mod to the car, but if not done right you get wicked glare. The LCDs they had weren't quite what I am looking for, but still some thing to look at. They also have touch screens so I might go that route for one in the center console, though.

I'm thinking i could possibly make this cable if i got the wiring diagram.......

I don't know if you saw but they sell the Male Consult connector so you can crimp it your self. http://www.blazt.biz/products/extras.php Its about 11.50 without shipping, let me know if you find that diagram, k.
Modified by MaxFNPower at 11:09 PM 1/14/2008

[Asmar]

Never heard of it...

[H8tred]

I've got the cable, and both Nissan Data Scan and the Log Viewer. Datascan while in data display freezes my laptop. I'm not sure if it's the laptop or the software. It only seems to do it when it's on battery (Pentium 4 2.20 ghz mobile, 512mb ram blah blah). It's good for getting codes without pulling the kick panel, and adjusting timing. That's about all I ever use it for.

[ShionS14]

I actually use the blazt cable and software. It comes with Conzult (Z cars only) and Nissan Datascan, and I got the date viewer as well. I love it, you can check any of your sensors, monitor different levels and so on. It has a test feature where you can actually adjust the timing, A/F ratio, and a couple other things I can't remember right now. I mostly use it to monitor and log info when I make a mod to the car, dyno, and track runs so I can see where everything is at and if something pops I can go back and look to see what happened.

here's a couple screen shots from awhile ago.

[cmoody2006]

Thats so fricken sweet anyone know where i can get a wiring diagram for that cable? I can get all the software off the net... hehe I just need the cable..... And i'd rather just make it myself. I trust my abilities....

[S13xCrazy]

check my sig for a cheaper consult cable + software.

[eazye2000]

I would trust Jason and his abilities. He tuned my ECU via a daughterboard and chips. Runs awesome!Although I've not personally used his cables. I have used the Blazt cable. I actually have a non-working one in the garage..

anyone know where i can get a wiring diagram for that cable? i'd rather just make it myself.

Like I said before. I have one in my garage. There is a tiny circuit board with resisters/transistors in the serial plug end. I don't think there is an easy way to make one yourself. But then again, what do I know..?

[MaxFNPower]

Wow! Thank you Shion, thats about what I thought. Also I assume that the changes made to A/F and timing are not permanent just the computer bypassing the ECU? This leads me to my next quote.

check my sig for a cheaper consult cable + software

I think I might pass on your cable. The reason is because this MOD is really looking like a go right now. At least the computer in car, still haven't found the right LCD, might look at OLEDs. Anyway the cable is going to be quite permanent and I am sorry I wouldn't mind using your cable for a temporary use but would be a little worried for the long run. That is unless that cable actually has a housing and the real consult connector.

I am however very interested in your ECU upgrades. My question is how long and how much would it be if after I bought the chip I had to send it in for adjustment, say if I was to upgrading my motor, turbo, headers, etc?

Like I said before. I have one in my garage. There is a tiny circuit board with resisters/transistors in the serial plug end. I don't think there is an easy way to make one yourself. But then again, what do I know..?

I don't know Cmoody seems pretty confident.

H8tred I think I have a solution to you laptop freezing problem. Most laptops when unplugged go into a power saving mode, in this mode your laptops CPU 's frequency drops (i.e. from 2.2 to like 2.0 or even as much as 1.8 Ghz depending on how aggressive your power saving mode is), it also lowers the voltage that feeds your processor. Processors can be come very unstable at low voltages, but usually it is not a problem. My suggestion is to either turn your power saving mode off(which will kill your battery life) or buy an AC DC adapter, the 150 watt should work fine and are about $20-$30 at Wal-Mart.

P.S. love your sig man

Modified by MaxFNPower at 12:17 AM 1/16/2008

Hay I am going to see my dad up north for a few days and probably will not have internet. Post what you want and I'll bump when I get back.
Modified by MaxFNPower at 12:46 AM 1/16/2008

[cmoody2006]

I still feel feel like i could make one if i had the wiring diagram.... I've made my own multimeter before and that involves a lot of resistors, transistors, cathodes and diodes so I'm pretty familiar with how things work.... I know I can make the plug that connects to the consult connector.

[Arashi]

I'd suggest (if you go the route of actually installing a computer in your car) building a min-pc.

I've seen tutourials on building cases for mini PCs that can be installed in glove boxes. Which include wiring a car up for LCD screens as you want. Even cameras all over a car

Very interesting project as I've been wanting to do the same with a computer (but trying to get my car to where I want it before I start adding the bells and whistles) Though maybe not as in-depth as you want to take it

[brizanden]

^ the only problem is with such a small case u better be ready for a old/crappy hardware or b overheating issues. i was thinkin about building a carputer but i wanna make it too crazy lol i wanna run vista and that alone requires a pretty serious processor and radiator combo. how cool would it be if you could play computer games in your car lol like new ones. ill go somewhere in my 240 then play nfsp pro street lol

[MaxFNPower]

I'd suggest (if you go the route of actually installing a computer in your car) building a min-pc.

I've seen tutourials on building cases for mini PCs that can be installed in glove boxes. Which include wiring a car up for LCD screens as you want. Even cameras all over a car

Very interesting project as I've been wanting to do the same with a computer (but trying to get my car to where I want it before I start adding the bells and whistles) Though maybe not as in-depth as you want to take it

I just had a mega long post written then firefox crashed so I'm just going to post a quick over view.

Oh the Carputer tis acomming.

starting off as a test platform to see what what can do and to see what I need to think about. Full tower in the floor board 19' CRT in passenger seat. after that either buy a PC made to go in car or just build one using a mini-PC motherboard or a motherboard with a smaller foot print. Whatever I can get to fit in my center console, hell with a computer in there why the hell do I need a radio. I can get a little 50x4 I can put any where I need.

My biggest problem so far is finding an LCD or OLED monitor to suit my needs.

(Ya that was about 3 long paragraphs I had written.)

P.S. How bout some GTA

i was thinkin about building a carputer but i wanna make it too crazy lol

Well, ever heard of a thing called liquid cooling? Your engine is liquid cool why not you computer or Carputer

Anyway, the computer I'm doing my testing with is my home tower. Just the video card cost more than an XBOX 360 Elite, so all these ers runing around with there xboxes and playstations can kiss my A$$. (woops didn't mean to brag). Hay I just realized that my computer siting in the floorboard will have more horseypower than there car. Just remember Baby

I've made my own multimeter

Ya I think, "You Can Do It!!!" Damn you made a multi meter nice!

[cmoody2006]

Ya I think, "You Can Do It!!!" Damn you made a multi meter nice!

yep I sure did

[brizanden]

Quote »Well, ever heard of a thing called liquid cooling? Your engine is liquid cool why not you computer or Carputer

Anyway, the computer I'm doing my testing with is my home tower. Just the video card cost more than an XBOX 360 Elite, so all these ers runing around with there xboxes and playstations can kiss my A$$. (woops didn't mean to brag). Hay I just realized that my computer siting in the floorboard will have more horseypower than there car. Just remember Baby

Ya I think, "You Can Do It!!!" Damn you made a multi meter nice! [/quote]well iu dont mean to start a d1ck contesst but yesss i have heard of liquid cooling i have a thermaltake big water system in my home rig which probably cost more then yours seeing as i have a 8800gtx (and i built mine as an added bonus to my e-peen) but anywho i was saying is nice systems take up a lot of space if you want them properaly cooled

[MaxFNPower]

well iu dont mean to start a d1ck contesst but yesss i have heard of liquid cooling i have a thermaltake big water system in my home rig which probably cost more then yours seeing as i have a 8800gtx (and i built mine as an added bonus to my e-peen) but anywho i was saying is nice systems take up a lot of space if you want them properaly cooled

Man I'm sorry if I pissed you off, I didn't mean to. It's just my sad little attempt at humor. And I wasn't calling you a ricer its just I have known a few guys that had stock honda civics with fart pipes and wanted to race every thing on the road. And just because you own a JDM car doesn't make you a ricer. Ricing is the zen of stupidity, to be human is to Rice, and its ok to rice a little rice. Hell even I am not immune to rice you should see some of the body kits I have considered for My Dorthy, its disturbing, hell I even own chopsticks, but no rice cooker. (another poor attempt at humor shame shame on me.) Oh ya and this little mod I'm looking at doing, ya I know I know how rice it looks, but damn it I just can't help it.

I'm sorry but you gave me a problem and every since I have become an engineering student I cant help but fix problems and you gave me a fun one to try to fix. Yay, and I still cant get past it damn it. Every time I look at Mini-ATX motherboards I cant stop but look at the ones with the PCI-E slots and 8Gb of upgradeable mem. and say hey an 8800 would fit nicely in there, its horible. But seriously I think I fixed all the problems in the gaming carputer(man I love that word I'm glad you came up with it ) except where to put the radiator and (again) what display to use (damn displays they never make one that will do exactly what you want. )

Anyway, I would like to thank you brizanden your post really hit the nail on the head as this thread is concerned these are the kind of thing I want to hear and I want to talk about. You found the real spirit of this thread and I am sorry for afending you.

TO EVERYONE OUT THERE I would like to say please post please, criticize me (with out being a d1ck please), please ask me questions, please bring things up. I don't mean to brag but some times I cant help it I am sorry, yes I am an a$$ for doing it.

P.S. I know the water cooling is a bad idea for a daily driver and a track car but man would it be sweet in a show car

P.P.S So Brizanden hows that water cooling treating you I have come real close to doing it but have never really crossed the line. Oh ya I looked it up and your card isn't much faster than mine but it must be nice having that 768MB of ram all I got is 320MB (I have the BFG 8800 GTS OC 320MB) and the only problems I have out of it is the substantial lack of memory, so I bet your little 8800 is pretty beasty.

yep I sure did

Oooooooooh nice, and Digital too. Is that a kit? Because thats sweet.

[Ace 2.0]

i am not really a computer guy but have you thought about cooling it with oil. i saw a vegetable oil cooling system a while back.

i would think that making a liquid tight casing with a little pump and a small radiator.(maybe plumbed to be under the car or out front,ala front mount,haha.) it seems feasible,might take alittle too much hosing??

but that is my input,i think it would be a good idea because oil is non conductive so you could saturate the entire inside of you carputer,thus uber-efficient cooling. (in theory.)>>>>>>>A.J.

[MaxFNPower]

i am not really a computer guy but have you thought about cooling it with oil. i saw a vegetable oil cooling system a while back.

i would think that making a liquid tight casing with a little pump and a small radiator.(maybe plumbed to be under the car or out front,ala front mount,haha.) it seems feasible,might take alittle too much hosing??

but that is my input,i think it would be a good idea because oil is non conductive so you could saturate the entire inside of you carputer,thus uber-efficient cooling. (in theory.)>>>>>>>A.J.

Nice find Ace. I found a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ8L1Prl6tk. Xoxide.com used to sell a 1.7 or 1.2 KW power supply that was similarly filled, I think it was dielectric grease though, they never said, "trade secret" right.

It's a little much for the light build I'm planning but still nice. I'm still worried about all the plumbing in a rough ride. Floor boards full of oil would suck.

I think I have almost settled on the ITX standard it's a 6.7in x 6.7in formfactor, cheap and will get me started but not much power. And I'm thinking about solid state hard drive, expensive but reliable and shock resistant up to like 1000 G's and 12 G vibration. Or, maybe just a laptop HD not sure yet.

[cmoody2006]

Oooooooooh nice, and Digital too. Is that a kit? Because thats sweet.

It was a kit I bought back in high school vocational class for computer science

[MaxFNPower]

Found some new info on that vegetable oil, http://www.cooperpower.com/Lib...s.pdf.Turns out that they are making new bio friendly dielectric oils with vegetable oil, turns out that vegetable oil is technically a dielectric substance but it does not protect from oxidation as well (shouldn't be any worse than air I would suspect) so the dielectric oils produced are heavily laden with additives. One of the drawbacks to pure vegetable oil is that it is so thick and hard to pump, the refined dielectric veg oil is much thiner than unrefined veg oil. Interesting ain't it.

Also tonight I took out the center console on my Dorthy and did some measuring on the area where the stereo is, its probably going to get tight but I should have enough room to do what I want. Also measured the dash cluster.

The dimensions are roughly 7W x 4-5H x 5D. The 5D is where the bottom of the area reaches the ground there is a lot more room towards the top. Also if I decide to do some cutting and relocate my heater and vent controls then I will have like another 3.5-4in. which will give me a lot more room.

I still need to pull the radio and the storage bin below it to really see what kind of room I have.

P.S.Hey Cmoody you found that cable diagram yet I still want to make one just as a project even if its just on a bread board.

[Ace 2.0]

thanks for the info guys.keep up the good work and i cant wait to see results >>>>>>A.J.

[brizanden]

Anyway, I would like to thank you brizanden your post really hit the nail on the head as this thread is concerned these are the kind of thing I want to hear and I want to talk about. You found the real spirit of this thread and I am sorry for afending you.

TO EVERYONE OUT THERE I would like to say please post please, criticize me (with out being a d1ck please), please ask me questions, please bring things up. I don't mean to brag but some times I cant help it I am sorry, yes I am an a$$ for doing it.

P.S. I know the water cooling is a bad idea for a daily driver and a track car but man would it be sweet in a show car

P.P.S So Brizanden hows that water cooling treating you I have come real close to doing it but have never really crossed the line. Oh ya I looked it up and your card isn't much faster than mine but it must be nice having that 768MB of ram all I got is 320MB (I have the BFG 8800 GTS OC 320MB) and the only problems I have out of it is the substantial lack of memory, so I bet your little 8800 is pretty beasty.

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lol i cant tell if this is u being sarcastic or not its like half and half. i was never talking about my car just that it wouldnt work out to well space wise. my point being is that i have a full tower (thermaltake kandalf ftl lol) and its packed now with the big waer and 8800. and it works awesome i have a digital flow reader that reads the temp of the liquid and im never above 40C and my cpu is overclocked to 3.2ghz from 2.44 lol cheap core duos ftw, but i didnt take that much offense i just wanted to let u know that i had an idea of what i was saying. Ill post some pics when i find a camera of my beast lol. it is pure rice blue cathode lights and green uv reactant coolant lol. oh btw im a engineer to computer science major u?

[MaxFNPower]

lol i cant tell if this is u being sarcastic or not its like half and half.

Ya usually I'm not sure ether, but for the most part on that post I was being sincere.

i was never talking about my car just that it wouldnt work out to well space wise

I knew you were talking about your home tower.

(general specks)

nice nice Full tower... oooooh, my old 486 was in a full tower and I miss it (the full tower not the 486) lol

but i didnt take that much offense i just wanted to let u know that i had an idea of what i was saying.

Ya I realized that after I posted but I'm lazy and thought you might like a free apology.

Ill post some pics when i find a camera of my beast lol. it is pure rice blue cathode lights and green uv reactant coolant lol.

, Ya I cant find my cord for my camera, and I have pix I want to post on here, too

oh btw im a engineer to computer science major u?

Well I got my degree(2 Year) in CST (Computer Systems and Technology) about a year ago at ASU Beebe and went back to do some classes with a CAD based engineering program called SolidWorks. I'm seriously thinking about doing some machining classes at ASU Searcy so maybe I can open my own machine shop, also want a solid base in Electrical Engineering and Programing.The CST degree was a little disapointing, while it gave me what I needed as a base it was only an Applied Science degree focusing in networking (Mainly Cisco's Systems). The market here is flooded, I work at Wal-Mart

[pflicht]

So I've read up on this product after viewing this post and it looks good but i have some questions about it.

1) Will this allow me to program and tune my ecu?2) Does it work with the 1990 KA24E SOHC (i've read it doesn't have OBD I)

[brizanden]

The CST degree was a little disapointing, while it gave me what I needed as a base it was only an Applied Science degree focusing in networking (Mainly Cisco's Systems). The market here is flooded, I work at Wal-Mart

**** well im hoping that since im mostly in programming and code writing it wont be too flooded there is supposed to be a high demand for code writers.

heres my rice machine lol ps sorry its blurry cell phone picswith it closed upmy new temp alarm: bottom is current temp and top is alarm temp. this is in celsuis with the proccesor overclocked to 3.2 ghz its amazing how well the cooling works it never goes above 33.8C even during running games on their highest settings.it opened up the huge thing on bottom is the 8800 (circled) the front it has a thing that lights up thermaltake but i missed it cause it flashes lolanyway if u could get this in a car and have it secure and **** it would rock
Modified by brizanden at 1:54 AM 1/24/2008

[MaxFNPower]

So I've read up on this product after viewing this post and it looks good but i have some questions about it.

1) Will this allow me to program and tune my ecu?2) Does it work with the 1990 KA24E SOHC (i've read it doesn't have OBD I)

1) From what I've seen at least a little bit, this is an exert from the datascan program on the blaZt web site http://www.blazt.biz/products/...t.JPG, it looks like ether this is all you can do, or just maybe you can bypass your ECU all together... probably not, but thats why I'm doing this, to find out. Its a big project with many stages.Stage 1 Get a Consult cable and a computer in my car(Any computer)Stage 2 Put a permanent carputer in my car(emphasis on looking good,flush,clean whatever)Stage 3 Monitor-monitors?Stage 3+ Hopefully by this time I will have enough research to start on the more interesting problems(advanced control of the ECU, permanent web-cam, maybe even 30lb. of servos and hardware so My Dorthy can driver herself around I'm not a robots hobbyist for nothing lol.

Know this though your ECU is ROM only (Read Only) you need to get a new chip, I recommend you look at S13xCrazy's sig. E-Menace's consult cables looked scary but there ECU's looked nice, there supposedly programed by the guy who designed the KAs, worth a look.

2) Should look for a gray connector under your dash I found mine next to where my left knee is when I drive. Mine is a KA also.

**** well im hoping that since im mostly in programming and code writing it wont be too flooded there is supposed to be a high demand for code writers.

Nice machine I wanted to do a similar thing for years with the green dye, only with red LEDs, I don't know what it is about red LEDs but I think there sexy ooh and infrared LEDs in the dark look awesome too.

Any ways I'm wondering what languages your getting into(or have gotten into) because the mid-level languages like C++ and such have an ok demand but pay shyt, but if you get some thing like Cobalt or Assembly under your belt and can actually deal with it, then I've seen people make BANK. Those languages are notorious for being total bishez though. But, I have a friend from High-School who's cousin goes to japan for two weeks makes 30k then takes 3 months off and does it again(He's doin cobalt). I have heard horror stories about Cobalt, but I would love to try it just because of that story. Anyway you being a programing major I'm sure you already at least know about these(If not are in them now) so I'm not going to explain them any more.

I have only touched on the mid-level languages and loved it I hope some day I can actually spend some time with them, I also dreamed as a kid of designing video hardware for 3Dfx(Man taht was depressing to type) which is why I am a little ashamed to have an Nvidia in my computer. But, what can I do Crossfire sucks(At least it did when I bought my 8800).

P.S. I'm on a tighter than normal budget for the next month or so so I may have trouble getting that cable and software bundle, I may also be purchasing SolidWorks full version which is probably in the multi-K's( I am having a hell of a time with there sales department the AR area rep is being A huge *****. I really don't think she thinks I am serious.)

[cmoody2006]

P.S.Hey Cmoody you found that cable diagram yet I still want to make one just as a project even if its just on a bread board.

I have found some useful information but not a whole lot. I don't know if you guy's have heard of biki-rom or not but they make this board that you can solder into your ecu and it puts a usb port in the side of your ecu so you can directly hook it up to a computer. Here is one of the helpful things i've found on biki-rom's website only bad thing tho is that this is for the ka24de not the ka24e. I'm trying to find out how much difference there is between the 2.

http://www.bikirom.com/S13.N14...R.pdfh ... SDM.KA.pdf

It shows what wires are used for the console wire but doesn't give great detail on it....

I don't have much time right now but i'm going to do more research on the bikirom stuff later

[brizanden]

Quote »Any ways I'm wondering what languages your getting into(or have gotten into) because the mid-level languages like C++ and such have an ok demand but pay shyt, but if you get some thing like Cobalt or Assembly under your belt and can actually deal with it, then I've seen people make BANK. Those languages are notorious for being total bishez though. But, I have a friend from High-School who's cousin goes to japan for two weeks makes 30k then takes 3 months off and does it again(He's doin cobalt). I have heard horror stories about Cobalt, but I would love to try it just because of that story. Anyway you being a programing major I'm sure you already at least know about these(If not are in them now) so I'm not going to explain them any more.[/quote]yeah im doin c++ right now cause im still a first year but its a joke cause i've known java and c++ pretty well since highschool, but no actually dont know what cobalt is but im sure it can suck just based on the fact i've never heard of it and the ones u dont hear about are always really cryptic.

but as far aas the cathode lights its sweet for mine cause i got a spliter that runs two bars off one hub so i can just by diff colored bars and plug them iinto the already hooked up hub so no moving my wires around. and the water cooling i setup i got comes with precolored tubes and coolant that is uv reactant it was only $120 and is the best buy i have got for my machine heres a link u should check it out.http://directron.com/clw0075.html