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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 4:18 AM 9/9/2007 |
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Remove your center console and the ebrake boot and use a 10mm wrench to loosen the tension on the ebrake lines so that you can remove them.
 The 240SX lines can be taken out by removing the screws from the mounts here in the driveshaft tunnel.
 To remove the lines from the T-bracket, turn the lines to the side of the bracket where there is an opening and use a screwdriver to pop the cylinder out by pressing from the bottom.
 Done!
 Use a 10mm wrench to remove the ebrake mounts from the subframe.
 You can pull the 240SX ebrake out and done!
 When you install the Z32 ebrake cables there are two stock mounting points on the rear subframe that you can use to bolt them to if you wish.
 If the lines that you have need to be extended in order to reach the T-bracket then take the ebrake extension kit...
 and connect the lines.
 Run the lines across or thru the subframe.
 Insert them both into the T-bracket.
 You'll need to secure the cables onto the floorboard in order to get them to function correctly.
 These brackets came with the ebrake extension kit for mounting the cables but I used these to mount the cables to the subframe...
 You can see them if you look closely.
 I used some metal brackets that I got from Lowes to secure the ends of the ebrake cables to the floorboard. I bent them into a L formation, bolted the lines on and was able to bolt the brackets to the same stock location that the 240SX lines were bolted to.Now that your ebrake functions, you can install the rotors, calipers and torque down the axle bolts.
 Z32 vs. 240SX rotors.
 You won't be able to remove the 240SX calipers until you remove the 240SX brake lines from the car.
 Place the Z32 rotor on the hub.
 Decided to replace my old caliper bolts with new bolts also.
 Apply brake quiet to your pads and insert the pad with the mounting tab thru the bottom of the caliper before you bolt it to the spindle. You cannot install the pad with the mounting tab on it to the caliper unless the caliper is off the car...believe me I tried.
 Use a 17mm socket to reinstall the caliper bolts and torque to 28-38ft. lbs.
 Now you can insert the other pad from the top of the caliper.
 Pad retainer.
 Bolts.
 Spring retainer.
 Done with the caliper install. Now on to the brake lines.
 After removing the brake hose clip, use a 10mm wrench(preferably a line wrench) to remove the brake hose hard line fittings...
 and replace with the stainless steel line...
 and clip it down. The stainless steel line uses a 19mm wrench. Keep the 10mm wrench on the hardline to hold it steady while you turn the fitting on the new line.
 During this procedure I busted one of my brake hardlines from the chassis to the brake hose so I removed it, went to Autozone and had another hardline cut and bent to replace it with. You'll need to bleed the brakes later.
 Reinstall the adjuster cap and the cotter pin to the axle after you torque the axle nut to 151-201ft. lbs.
 Z32 rear setup...
 Finished! As far as using wheels goes, I found out that the stock S13 alloy wheels could possibly be used with the brake upgrade. Apparently there was three types of Z32 calipers, 26mm aluminum, 30mm aluminum and 30mm iron.
 There were also two types of S13 stock alloy wheels that looked the same but were different on the backside....
 This type with the grooves in them...
 and this type without the grooves. You can use the 26mm aluminum calipers with the stock alloys without the grooves in them.
 I was able to mount these wheels on the car with the rear calipers and spin the wheel without any contact between the caliper and wheel...
 but there was absolutely very little space in between the two...but it is possible. Modified by positronone at 4:57 PM 9/14/2007
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 5:43 AM 9/10/2007 |
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positronone, you rock. This is an awsome write up. Yeah, I just bookmarked it.
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (94_240sx) | 5:56 AM 9/10/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 94_240sx » | | positronone, you rock. This is an awsome write up. Yeah, I just bookmarked it. |
werd should be in the stickied post

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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (RB20DETodd) | 8:34 AM 9/10/2007 |
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Did you know about the issue with this part on s13 4-lug hub? You gotta get this part from correct year z32 otherwise you will have a gap. I wonder if you were looking for the right one or just got lucky. I had a hard time locating this part.
Left one came with the hub that I got from junkyard and soon realized that it's not the right one, so I bought another set which is the one on the right side. Looks like you got the right one from the beginning. Good for you!!!

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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (94_240sx) | 8:54 AM 9/10/2007 |
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You know it's funny you should mention that part. A while back while researching, I was reading a really long really old Z32 brake/hub upgrade thread here on NICO and they were talking about that part. They had pics and I had my hubs so I eyeballed it and it looked like I had the right ones so I didn't think anything about it again until the day I installed them. I think I dodged a bullet on that one!
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 9:01 AM 9/10/2007 |
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Thinking back on the other day I do have the one on the right because I remember the little nut or whatever that is and I was worried that when I put the dust shield on the spindle and pressed them together that the small nut or protrusion would create a gap but there was a indentation on the spindle where that small protrusion fit into and there were no problems.
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 9:15 AM 9/10/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by positronone » | | You know it's funny you should mention that part. A while back while researching, I was reading a really long really old Z32 brake/hub upgrade thread here on NICO and they were talking about that part. They had pics and I had my hubs so I eyeballed it and it looked like I had the right ones so I didn't think anything about it again until the day I installed them. I think I dodged a bullet on that one! |
Oh! You sure did. Cool man!! If you had the one on the left, you could have had a hard time figuring it out. e-brake will still work somehow, but it's not safe cuz there's a play. That part is called 'Anchor Bolt' and not available from Nissan anymore. Yup! There's an indentation, so you don't have to worry about that small bolt. I started that old z32 brake swap thread in convertible forum.
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (94_240sx) | 9:32 AM 9/10/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 94_240sx » | I started that old z32 brake swap thread in convertible forum. | Anchor bolt...not available anymore...bummer! Yeah, that's the thread that I was reading, very helpful it was. Thanks!
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 1:29 PM 9/10/2007 |
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I have e-brake cables from z32 2+2 and wonder how it'll turn out.
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (94_240sx) | 8:27 AM 9/11/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 94_240sx » | | I have e-brake cables from z32 2+2 and wonder how it'll turn out. | Do the tips of your cables look like this...
 ...or do you have the kind with the mounting points running lengthwise. I still haven't sorted out which kind is which but the other ones make for mounting the cables to the floorboard much much easier!
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pretty awesome man, do you have a link to where you bought the ebrake extension from?
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| « Re: (vvaffle) | 12:22 PM 9/16/2007 |
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| « Re: (positronone) | 7:47 PM 9/30/2007 |
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great write up
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 9:18 PM 9/30/2007 |
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sick write up I will defienitly use this! So the z32 spindles are not needed? you just had them in the package? Also regarding the rear calipers..are there size differences like 26mm-30mm like the fronts?Thanks
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (nwmrkt) | 9:27 AM 10/1/2007 |
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All the Z32 rear calipers are the same size, what mm I wasn't able to find out though...anybody? The Z32 spindles are completely optional if you get the Z32 coils/struts and I think there is a spacer needed for the RLCA as well.
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 4:33 PM 10/1/2007 |
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ok so the rear calipers are all the same unlike the fronts which can be different...so when I go to order rear rotors...300zx rear rotors are all the same size and whatnot. And what I meant about the spindles are that I do not need them right? for my s13...Thanks! | Quote, originally posted by positronone » | All the Z32 rear calipers are the same size, what mm I wasn't able to find out though...anybody? The Z32 spindles are completely optional if you get the Z32 coils/struts and I think there is a spacer needed for the RLCA as well. |
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (nwmrkt) | 10:25 AM 10/2/2007 |
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Yeah, all the sites that sell rear Z32 rotors just list them as the rear as opposed to the front that is listed in 26mm and 30mm. As for the Z32 spindles, no you don't need to use them on your S13. Just do what I did and keep your stock 240SX spindles, although it would have been nice to shave that extra 7lbs. per spindle, not like you would really notice it though...I guess.
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| « UPDATE!!!!!! | 2:48 PM 10/3/2007 |
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I messed up the adjustment nut on my ebrake handle when I first did this conversion so I've been riding around with barely an ebrake because I could not adjust it. I bought another handle from a forum guy, got it yesterday and installed it today. I also reinstalled my Z32 ebrake cables and this time I did so without the use of the ebrake extensions. Tools needed: 10mm socket 12mm socket Phillipshead screwdriver Prybar  After removing the console, use a 10mm socket to remove the console bracket.
 Take the console bracket off and use a 10mm socket to get the ebrake line off.
 Use a 12mm to remove two bolts holding the handle to the chassis, one on each side.
 Disconnect the harness from the ebrake, this lights up the "BRAKE" on your gauge cluster.
 Now you can slide the cable out from under the copper box and remove it.
 Done!
 Put the new handle in and reinstall.
 Adjustment nut.
 For the Z32 ebrake cables I removed the extensions and used a prybar...  to remove the mounting brackets from the cables.
 Now I can run the cables throught the stock location on the subframe, this opening here. You wouldn't be able to get them through the hole with the mounting brackets attached.
 This stopper fits flush here.
 The cable runs right to the t-bracket.
 Now you can connect it.
 Make sure you have the adjustment nut loose and the ebrake handle down for the slack, also so you can reach the t-bracket with the cables. I also suggest connecting the cable on the exhaust side first because of the limited space.
 An added bonus, now you can reuse the mounting brackets that you pryed off, just put them back on the cables and you can mount them to the same stock mounting points that the 240SX cables were mounted to flush against the undercarriage of the car.
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (94_240sx) | 7:20 PM 11/5/2007 |
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the gap between the dust sheilds and the hub is it nessesary to full this gap ??? or can you just go without this piece???
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 3:05 AM 11/6/2007 |
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why this thread isnt stickied is beyond me
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (RB20DETodd) | 5:51 AM 11/6/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by RB20DETodd » | | why this thread isnt stickied is beyond me |
Same here. positronone has created a lot of "should/must be stickied" threads.
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (94_240sx) | 5:55 AM 11/6/2007 |
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werd| Quote, originally posted by 94_240sx » | Same here. positronone has created a lot of "should/must be stickied" threads. | yokota had a good idea for a fitment thread, but on nico is here is my Fn 17x8 +35's on my s14
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 9:33 AM 11/12/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by positronone » | Do the tips of your cables look like this...
 ...or do you have the kind with the mounting points running lengthwise. I still haven't sorted out which kind is which but the other ones make for mounting the cables to the floorboard much much easier! |
Finally took some pics yesterday. z32 2 seater cable and 2+2 cable side by side. They are basically the same, but 2 seater cable is bit shorter. This guy did it with 2+2 cables. http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/291844 Obviously both cables work just fine. It's just a matter of which one is easier to secure and such. When I do mine, I'll test fit both and use whatever that works better. BTW, R33 cable is like 2-3 inches longer than 2+2 cable and it has same tips on both sides. 



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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (94_240sx) | 10:05 AM 11/12/2007 |
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Im sorry just to refresh my head you can use the z32 e brake cables to make the ebrake work, OR I can use the ebrake extension kit to extend my 240sx cables n it would work the same way???
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (stacy) | 11:52 AM 11/12/2007 |
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On a S13 the ebrake extensions are not needed. I used extensions and then took them off, check the update on this thread up above and you can see what I did. The Z32 cables go straight to the ebrake t-bracket, in fact you have to put a little english on them because the fit is so tight. You have to insert them into the stock holes on the subframe and run them straight to the t-bracket otherwise they won't reach, those extra couple of millimeters count.P.S.- thanks 94_240sx...so I have the 2 seater cables. Modified by positronone at 2:05 PM 11/12/2007
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (positronone) | 1:06 PM 11/12/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by positronone » | | You have to insert them into the stock holes on the subframe and run them straight to the t-bracket otherwise they won't reach, those extra couple of millimeters count. |
It's a good piece of infomation. If that's the case, looks like 2+2 cables are better fit than 2 seater cables. Okay, then I'll use 2+2 cables. Again, both should work with no problem without extensions I guess.
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| « Re: S13 300ZX Rear Brake Install (94_240sx) | 5:17 PM 6/9/2008 |
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great write upI came because I couldn't bust My axle nut - plenty of strength and wd-40 and still no love EDIT:: after 4 hours I added a pipe to the end of my torque wrench and behold, I got it. thank you for these write-ups saf we are here on the opposite side of the Fast furious culture actually doing what we love and it feels great. blood and oil on my hands, a smile on my face.
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| « removing rusted rear rotors ( remove rust rotor rear hub brake ) | 3:13 AM 6/11/2008 |
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I got the rear rotor, here is what I found
- spray the rotor with wd-40 through the 4 (or 5) stud holes. - push a bolt through the hole for the break caliper mounting point - and place a lug on the other side. - keep tightening until it pops the back of the rotor off. full article, it works http://www.daihatsu.org/jeep/e....html
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| « Re: removing rusted rear rotors (Kalypso123) | 6:17 AM 10/28/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Kalypso123 » | | I got the rear rotor, here is what I found 
- spray the rotor with wd-40 through the 4 (or 5) stud holes. - push a bolt through the hole for the break caliper mounting point - and place a lug on the other side. - keep tightening until it pops the back of the rotor off. full article, it works http://www.daihatsu.org/jeep/e....html |
These 2 holes on the rotor are threaded. You can use 12mm or 14mm(not sure) bolts and they will push the rotor out of the hub. 
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| « Re: removing rusted rear rotors (94_240sx) | 10:54 AM 4/2/2009 |
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thought the 300z calipers bolted right up. i heard they were interchangable with the 240.now I know thanks for the post.
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| « Re: removing rusted rear rotors (Guappone240) | 6:59 AM 4/10/2009 |
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Wow this is a GREAT write up and very informative.
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| « Re: removing rusted rear rotors (bboixtc) | 4:22 PM 10/2/2009 |
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